Redcliffe put their hand up

[mongoose]

When I pointed out that Brisbane is an RL city that hates fumbleball a few months back you ran in to defend AwFuL and talk about how many inroads it has made.

my point was that with time and investment AFL has made some in roads into Brisbane. There is no reason why League couldn't do the same in Perth or Adelaide, that is unless you think League is an inferior product...

Maybe some aspects of the Storm's push into Melbourne has been underwhelming but it is AFL mecca and not many other sports get a fair go down there in winter. In saying that its also the 2nd largest city in the country and any competition that wants to claim its national ('N' RL) has to have a presence there.

 

[T-Boon]

Maybe some aspects of the Storm's push into Melbourne has been underwhelming but it is AFL mecca and not many other sports get a fair go down there in winter. In saying that its also the 2nd largest city in the country and any competition that wants to claim its national ('N' RL) has to have a presence there.

We should change the name to PRL (where P=Pacific).

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

my point was that with time and investment AFL has made some in roads into Brisbane. There is no reason why League couldn't do the same in Perth or Adelaide, that is unless you think League is an inferior product...

Maybe some aspects of the Storm's push into Melbourne has been underwhelming but it is AFL mecca and not many other sports get a fair go down there in winter. In saying that its also the 2nd largest city in the country and any competition that wants to claim its national ('N' RL) has to have a presence there.

I understand your position on expansion and agree with some of it.

I think RL can improve its position in Adelaide and Perth, but it will always be handicapped by the fact it wasn't introduced to either city until 50-70 years ago. Fumbleball was played in Brisbane and Sydney long before RL was invented. That's 2 or 3 generations of people playing the game and passing it down to their children. There's always been something for AwFuL to work with in the RL states. Any foray into fumbleball wastelands will require a massive investment as it's starting from scratch. We won't get any help from the SA and WA Govs. When AwFuL realised their foray into NZ would not be funded by the tax payer they pulled out.

 

[reanimate]

I understand your position on expansion and agree with some of it.

I think RL can improve its position in Adelaide and Perth, but it will always be handicapped by the fact it wasn't introduced to either city until 50-70 years ago.

That won’t really matter due to immigration. Perth’s future population increases will be driven largely through immigration, the more Kiwis, Saffas etc that move there, the bigger base we have to work with.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That won’t really matter due to immigration. Perth’s future population increases will be driven largely through immigration, the more Kiwis, Saffas etc that move there, the bigger base we have to work with.

Saffas will always choose RU over RL. Twiggy Forrest is an RU man.

 

[reanimate]

Saffas will always choose RU over RL. Twiggy Forrest is an RU man.

RU being there is better for us than AFL, we can at least rob their talent systems. Have some confidence in RL, we can win Saffas over, just as we win heaps of Kiwis from non-RL areas in NZ over when they move to Australia.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

RU being there is better for us than AFL, we can at least rob their talent systems. Have some confidence in RL, we can win Saffas over, just as we win heaps of Kiwis from non-RL areas in NZ over when they move to Australia.

Saffas in Australia always go back to RU.

 

[greenBV4]

Not gonna bother quoting certain things and pretty much skimmed over everything but comparing storm crowds to afl crowds is cherry picking in a way to make the storm's crowds seem worse

The AFL gets higher attendances than the NRL, regardless. The Swans out draw most Sydney NRL teams in Sydney ffs

The better comparison is that Melbourne outdraws 90% of the other teams in the NRL

 

[reanimate]

Saffas in Australia always go back to RU.

That’s a defeatist attitude. Even if that were true, which it’s not, their kids can be won over. Especially if they’re going to school with Kiwis etc that follow RL.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That’s a defeatist attitude. Even if that were true, which it’s not, their kids can be won over. Especially if they’re going to school with Kiwis etc that follow RL.

How many South Africans have migrated to Australia and played RL until they retired from competitive sport?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not gonna bother quoting certain things and pretty much skimmed over everything but comparing storm crowds to afl crowds is cherry picking in a way to make the storm's crowds seem worse

The AFL gets higher attendances than the NRL, regardless. The Swans out draw most Sydney NRL teams in Sydney ffs

The better comparison is that Melbourne outdraws 90% of the other teams in the NRL

The Storm have been winning, almost non-stop, for 15 years. Any team with that sort of success would draw great crowds.

I must point out that Storm are only averaging 16k at Melbourne Rectangular Stadium. They inflate their total by taking a "home" game to Lang Park.

The Lions don't outrate the Broncos.

 

[reanimate]

How many South Africans have migrated to Australia and played RL until they retired from competitive sport?

It’s less about players and more about potential fan support in this case.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It’s less about players and more about potential fan support in this case.

South Africa is known for discriminating against RL. They won't even acknowledge it as a sport. Good luck getting people with that mindset to give the game a go.

 

[reanimate]

South Africa is known for discriminating against RL. They won't even acknowledge it as a sport. Good luck getting people with that mindset to give the game a go.

Okay, pretend 100% of South Africans and their descendants will never touch a game of RL once on our shores, the immigration from NZ and the Pacific Islands will increase the base we have to work with in Perth in the future.

 

[Jimmy Wiggle]

How many South Africans have migrated to Australia and played RL until they retired from competitive sport?

While what you say might be correct, when South Africa played Malta in 2018 there were 4 players who play in the Perth competition. So there is potential if you work for it.

 

[Perth Red]

Adelaide isNt Brisbane, afl isn’t nrl. It’s irrelevant how Many people there are, what’s relevant is how fanatical they are in following the sport of choice. Yes Adelaide has less people than brisbane but both of the Adelaide afl clubs have massively bigger supporter bases than the current one club in brisbane. The broncos aren’t even close to the membership levels of the two Adelaide clubs and a second Brisbane team isn’t going to be anywhere near as popular as broncos, a third team would be even smaller than that.

so when Brisbane Match the smaller city of Adelaide and broncos have a crowd avg of 44k and 55k members and brisbane2 have a 35k avg crowd and 40k Membership come back and tell us why they deserve a third club because Adelaide has two!

 

[greenBV4]

I must point out that Storm are only averaging 16k at Melbourne Rectangular Stadium. They inflate their total by taking a "home" game to Lang Park.

Once again, you say "only" 16k, are you even aware what other clubs/stadiums in the NRL draw?

Im well aware of recent stadium averages, I kept tables tracking them the last few years (not this year tho obviously)

https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/stadium-averages.477916/

AAMI Park in 2019 was the 4th best attended stadium.. behind only Brisbane, Newcastle and a brand new WSS

Low crowds (compared to the AFL) are not a Storm issue, its an NRL issue

 

[Perth Red]

The 4th best attended stadium for regular games in 2019. If only the other 12 so called heartland clubs could be as bad as melbourne lol.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Adelaide isNt Brisbane, afl isn’t nrl. It’s irrelevant how Many people there are, what’s relevant is how fanatical they are in following the sport of choice. Yes Adelaide has less people than brisbane but both of the Adelaide afl clubs have massively bigger supporter bases than the current one club in brisbane. The broncos aren’t even close to the membership levels of the two Adelaide clubs and a second Brisbane team isn’t going to be anywhere near as popular as broncos, a third team would be even smaller than that.

so when Brisbane Match the smaller city of Adelaide and broncos have a crowd avg of 44k and 55k members and brisbane2 have a 35k avg crowd and 40k Membership come back and tell us why they deserve a third club because Adelaide has two!

So Brisbane Broncos and Bris2 need to draw AwFuL level crowds in order for there to be a Bris3, even though you state that "afl isn't nrl" [sic]?

Using that batshit insane theory, Perth and Adelaide ain't fit to have an NRL team of their own as the crowds for Reds and Rams were under 10,000 in their second seasons, whereas the Lions and Swans get well over 20,000 and 30,000!

Memberships were around in fumbleball back in the 70s you dickhead. It's part of their culture. They didn't come into RL until less than 20 years ago.

Now since you claim "afl isn't nrl" [sic], let's compare the Broncos to the rest of the NRL clubs, shall we?

The Broncos average twice as much as the rest of the clubs and are easily the largest and most powerful club in the world. That's the only metric that matters when discussing crowd figures and you know it. The other metric is television ratings, as it's widely accepted that RL fans prefer to watch the game from home because it is best viewed on television, whereas fumbleball is better live. You can see far more on TV than at an RL game, whereas the opposite holds true for fumbleball. So nice try with your stupid apples and oranges comparison, but just like your spelling and grammar, it is shit. Oh, and I will add that Broncos are the largest and most influential professional sporting club in the entire country.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...b/news-story/bd4a2a1719d9f30e0024a25e400bbc04

You have no idea how many people will attend Bris2 and 3, so STFU.

What we do know is Queenslanders are parochial and prefer to watch local teams. Bris2 and 3 will provide local derbies and more content for the Brisbane market. Broadcasters will like that. Adelaide and Perth will be watched by next to no one.

If Adelaide and Perth are as fiercely parochial towards fumbleball as you claim, then wouldn't it stand to reason that the NRL has zero chance of succeeding in either market?

Congratulations, you've just argued Adelaide and Perth out of the running for a team. Now there's an own goal!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The 4th best attended stadium for regular games in 2019. If only the other 12 so called heartland clubs could be as bad as melbourne lol.

You're the blowhard that's always pointing to the attendances and membership numbers of the Eagles, Dockers, Crows and Power to argue that Brisbane should be limited to just 2 NRL clubs. Now you're whinging, like you always do, because I used your stupid tactic against your anti-Brisbane rants.

Just admit it, you're a stupid troll.