Redcliffe put their hand up

[Stallion]

Sydney clubs? Yes absolutely Rabbits, Eels, Dogs, Dragons have fans all over the country and overseas. The bears..... don't.

Wow. You are so mistaken! The Sydney clubs are well known Australia wide. BAR NONE! You have read the wrong script champ! I mean I've noted you have liked some of my comments but your undrestarting of the reach of the Sydney clubs is out of wack with reality. These clubs(all of them) are big time knowledge to most sports people and the general public around Australia.

 

[ReddFelon]

FMD Redcliffe thread now featuring the Bears. Illawarra Steelers and Newtown Jets fans need to get in on this derailment. Sydney has the population to support 10 teams? Lel, London struggles to support five teams in Premier League, the entire American Football mad Texas is content with two teams spread across a population the size of Australia. Sydney has the population to support about six teams unless you're enjoying the current crowd numbers.

Redcliffe would need to expand beyond the peninsula, I liked the Moreton Bay idea. Call them the Moreton Bay Bugs.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Wow. You are so mistaken! The Sydney clubs are well known Australia wide. BAR NONE! You have read the wrong script champ! I mean I've noted you have liked some of my comments but your undrestarting of the reach of the Sydney clubs is out of wack with reality. These clubs(all of them) are big time knowledge to most sports people and the general public around Australia.

Source?

How many members do the bears have outside of Sydney? How many did they have around the world at their peak in the mid ninties?

 

[Stallion]

Source?

How many members do the bears have outside of Sydney? How many did they have around the world at their peak in the mid ninties?

I'm not just saying the Bears were well known. The other Sydney clubs as well! If you don't think that the very popular tv coverage enjoyed by fans of the Sydney Big League competition did not engage a broader fan base for all these clubs then you are a list cause. That's common sense! Wow!

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I'm not just saying the Bears were well known. The other Sydney clubs as well! If you don't think that the very popular tv coverage enjoyed by fans of the Sydney Big League competition did not engage a broader fan base for all these clubs then you are a list cause. That's common sense! Wow!

Great! Then we agree. The Sydney NRL clubs are very popular - the bears are not that popular and their place is in the NSW Cup not the NRL

 

[Stallion]

FMD Redcliffe thread now featuring the Bears. Illawarra Steelers and Newtown Jets fans need to get in on this derailment. Sydney has the population to support 10 teams? Lel, London struggles to support five teams in Premier League, the entire American Football mad Texas is content with two teams spread across a population the size of Australia. Sydney has the population to support about six teams unless you're enjoying the current crowd numbers.

Redcliffe would need to expand beyond the peninsula, I liked the Moreton Bay idea. Call them the Moreton Bay Bugs.

London has more EPL clubs than that. And not surprisingly you would advocate a discourse eliminating more great clubs from Sydney. Your stance is the union troll angle. Notably the so called "rugby league" implosion commentators side with your stance.

 

[Stallion]

Great! Then we agree. The Sydney NRL clubs are very popular - the bears are not that popular and their place is in the NSW Cup not the NRL

? Read again. You are way wrong. Look at the words this time.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

? Read again. You are way wrong. Look at the words this time.

Ok so....

How many members do the bears have outside of Sydney? How many did theyhave around the world at their peak in the mid ninties?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

London has more EPL clubs than that. And not surprisingly you would advocate a discourse eliminating more great clubs from Sydney. Your stance is the union troll angle. Notably the so called "rugby league" implosion commentators side with your stance.

Nope, just Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Crystal Palace

 

[Stallion]

Nope, just Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Crystal Palace

Tottenham Hotspur, Watford, West Brom? Think their is a few more if you count nearby as well. !?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Tottenham Hotspur, Watford, West Brom? Think their is a few more if you count nearby as well. !?

Yep fair enough Watford and Tottenham, I already mentioned West Ham. That is six, still less than Sydney and London id a bigger city

 

[ReddFelon]

Tottenham Hotspur, Watford, West Brom? Think their is a few more if you count nearby as well. !?

West Brom is closer to Birmingham than London.

 

[The Great Dane]

? Misread from u I'd say!?

Nope I read it just fine, and there's a bit in their that completely contradicts your favourite go to line!

Yes. But trying to use a poor crowd to justify further implosion is not positive at all? I'd rather look at the real issues of poor marketing, $25 parking fees, ticket prices etc. That's where the crowd issues are emanating from. Plus one side not performing and the other not well supported outside of their immediate area. That's where the parking related costs really come into it for their travelling fans. Is their a train from Penrith to the Olympic stadium?

The above completely contradicts your usual spiel that is represented by the below-

You just don't get it. These Sydney clubs are Australia wide knowledge. They are way more recognised due to the tv exposure of the 70s,80's &90s. They are part of the Australian sports psyche! The Brisbane clubs & elsewhere are nowhere near the notoriety of the Sydney clubs. It's reality. Sevens Big League made the Sydney clubs household names throughout AustralIa. It's very different.

Somehow the Sydney clubs are massively popular Australia wide with hundreds of thousands of fans across the country, but at the same time they aren't well supported outside of their immediate area...

Those positions are completely irreconcilable!

In other words, you sir have just proven for the umpteenth time that you are without a shadow of a doubt full of shit!

 

[The Great Dane]

Like I've gone over many times before the tiered competition won't cut it in Australia.It's top grade or oblivian. Simple as that. By ridding this competition of established and well known clubs is ludicrous thinking. You are basically eroding a familiar market base.

So a system that is successful everywhere that it implemented in it's various forms won't work here just cause you say so?

Or is it cause the top handful of clubs say it won't work cause if it was implemented they wouldn't be able to hoard all of the riches produced by the game?

Similar systems work all over the world, from the pro&reg systems in Europe, to the Major and Minor leagues in North America, and even arguably some of the Scholastic sports systems all over the world, yet apparently it won't work in Australia but nobody can come up with a coherent reason why that is!

I'm glad you have mentioned that the population numbers are realistic for ten clubs. This is progress and I commend you for this!

I said that it could support more clubs, potentially plenty more than ten clubs, however I didn't say that it could support more NRL clubs, cause it can't support anymore NRL clubs, it can't even support the NRL clubs that it has.

Those are two very, very different things!

 

[The Great Dane]

Sydney clubs? Yes absolutely Rabbits, Eels, Dogs, Dragons have fans all over the country and overseas. The bears..... don't.

That's not fair.

The Bears definitely did have fans "all over the country" (all over the RL watching part of the country that is), they had their fans scattered around country NSW, Queensland, the ACT, even a tiny amount in NZ from when the footy was being broadcast over there, just like all the Sydney clubs did.

However in saying that they didn't have the hundreds of thousands of fans that Stallion likes to talk about, and they weren't a renowned institution across the country like Stallion likes to make out, and there weren't enough "out of town" fans to make up for the over saturation in Sydney especially after the "out of town" fans started getting their own "out of town" teams.

So yeah the Bears did have fans around the country, just as every club has fans all over the place, but Stallion and his ilk massively over state their numbers and their influence.

 

[The Great Dane]

FMD Redcliffe thread now featuring the Bears. Illawarra Steelers and Newtown Jets fans need to get in on this derailment. Sydney has the population to support 10 teams? Lel, London struggles to support five teams in Premier League, the entire American Football mad Texas is content with two teams spread across a population the size of Australia. Sydney has the population to support about six teams unless you're enjoying the current crowd numbers.

Redcliffe would need to expand beyond the peninsula, I liked the Moreton Bay idea. Call them the Moreton Bay Bugs.

You'll also note that all the biggest clubs in the EPL are from outside of London!

That is only possible cause of the amount of clubs in London means that they have to cannibalise each others fan base to survive, if there were only one or two clubs in London they'd be the biggest individual football clubs in the world by now.

 

[Stallion]

Nope I read it just fine, and there's a bit in their that completely contradicts your favourite go to line!



The above completely contradicts your usual spiel that is represented by the below-



Somehow the Sydney clubs are massively popular Australia wide with hundreds of thousands of fans across the country, but at the same time they aren't well supported outside of their immediate area...

Those positions are completely irreconcilable!

In other words, you sir have just proven for the umpteenth time that you are without a shadow of a doubt full of shit!

Lol. That's not a contradiction ! You require comprehension lessons! A poor crowd on a given day can happen to any code or sport!? You have somehow mixed together the significant outside of Sydney support into a home game crowd figure? Wow! Go back to school champ! That is dyslexic!

 

[Stallion]

So a system that is successful everywhere that it implemented in it's various forms won't work here just cause you say so?

Or is it cause the top handful of clubs say it won't work cause if it was implemented they wouldn't be able to hoard all of the riches produced by the game?

Similar systems work all over the world, from the pro&reg systems in Europe, to the Major and Minor leagues in North America, and even arguably some of the Scholastic sports systems all over the world, yet apparently it won't work in Australia but nobody can come up with a coherent reason why that is!



I said that it could support more clubs, potentially plenty more than ten clubs, however I didn't say that it could support more NRL clubs, cause it can't support anymore NRL clubs, it can't even support the NRL clubs that it has.

Those are two very, very different things!

Your low regard for NRL clubs reflects a poor regard for the code. More positive thinking is required. Yours is destructive and diabolical.

 

[Stallion]

That's not fair.

The Bears definitely did have fans "all over the country" (all over the RL watching part of the country that is), they had their fans scattered around country NSW, Queensland, the ACT, even a tiny amount in NZ from when the footy was being broadcast over there, just like all the Sydney clubs did.

However in saying that they didn't have the hundreds of thousands of fans that Stallion likes to talk about, and they weren't a renowned institution across the country like Stallion likes to make out, and there weren't enough "out of town" fans to make up for the over saturation in Sydney especially after the "out of town" fans started getting their own "out of town" teams.

So yeah the Bears did have fans around the country, just as every club has fans all over the place, but Stallion and his ilk massively over state their numbers and their influence.

Lol. Perhaps you have understated them!?

 

[Stallion]

West Brom is closer to Birmingham than London.

So is Birmingham closer to London than Wollongong or Gosford is to Sydney?