Redcliffe put their hand up

[jim_57]

Ipswich have a State of Origin style dislike for Brisbane. They are very proud of their Jets and won't want them playing out of Suncorp.

Where exactly would they plan to play then? Lobbying for a stadium on the condition they get an NRL license is very ambitious. If Jets/Western Corridor rule out playing at Suncorp then they rule themselves out of an expansion spot.

 

[Stallion]

Two factors for me
1. Whose got the money behind them. Any new team is going to need to be able to show financial security and have some significant $'s to invest in start up and for when times get hard.
2. Geographical identity as a differentiator to Broncos. On this point a South Queensland Jets playing out of Suncorp but based in Ipswich sounds on paper a good option. SQ is a broad enough identifier not to alienate anyone but the Jets brand and Ipswich base identifies their core base region.

eventually a third Brisbane team linked to Dolphins and the North should be a long term vision. But that requires a shrinkage of Sydneys oversaturation to achieve. I'm not keen to see more than 18 clubs unless we go to conferences, but that's a long shot.

It doesn't require a dilution of the code whatsoever! ? Smart people just add a club or two to the comp. Not hard. But your way is both difficult and destructive.

 

[Stallion]

That's convinced me, the bears are no good for the NRL - only one syllable.

North Sydney is an easy chant. Just like "South Sydney!"

 

[johnny plath]

Two factors for
2. Geographical identity as a differentiator to Broncos. On this point a South Queensland Jets playing out of Suncorp but based in Ipswich sounds on paper a good option. SQ is a broad enough identifier not to alienate anyone but the Jets brand and Ipswich base identifies their core base region.
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I'm not sure thst geography will provide a differential because broncos formed as an all of brisbane team and didn't grow geographically from a suburb. They are pretty equally supported and opposed in all areas of brisbane..there is no north v south v east v west rivallry with broncos. I don't think geography will do it unless they are genuinely in seq but not brisbane. Alternately they need to be the brisbane somethings that are counter broncos. I also wonder what the support base will actually look like considering most anti broncs in brisbane probably already support an nrl team. 2nd team def good and needed in bris but who will actually support them. ..maybe that's the clue in how to differentiate a new team.

 

[Stallion]

I'm not sure thst geography will provide a differential because broncos formed as an all of brisbane team and didn't grow geographically from a suburb. They are pretty equally supported and opposed in all areas of brisbane..there is no north v south v east v west rivallry with broncos. I don't think geography will do it unless they are genuinely in seq but not brisbane. Alternately they need to be the brisbane somethings that are counter broncos. I also wonder what the support base will actually look like considering most anti broncs in brisbane probably already support an nrl team. 2nd team def good and needed in bris but who will actually support them. ..maybe that's the clue in how to differentiate a new team.

Good points. Definitely a Brisbane named team representing the non Broncos fans. (Which there are plenty) It can be done.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I'm not sure thst geography will provide a differential because broncos formed as an all of brisbane team and didn't grow geographically from a suburb. They are pretty equally supported and opposed in all areas of brisbane..there is no north v south v east v west rivallry with broncos. I don't think geography will do it unless they are genuinely in seq but not brisbane. Alternately they need to be the brisbane somethings that are counter broncos. I also wonder what the support base will actually look like considering most anti broncs in brisbane probably already support an nrl team. 2nd team def good and needed in bris but who will actually support them. ..maybe that's the clue in how to differentiate a new team.

A rugby league club (even if QRL owned) rather than a corporation is a good start as an offset to the Broncs - there is no geographical rivalry. They will do fine for support - there will be a lot of people here that already have another NRL team that will jump on Brisbane 2 as their second team purely out of hatred for the Broncs. They are a very polarising team in this city.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

North Sydney is an easy chant. Just like "South Sydney!"

So new bids should be assessed on how easy their name is to chant? lol - just, lol

 

[The Great Dane]

Where exactly would they plan to play then? Lobbying for a stadium on the condition they get an NRL license is very ambitious. If Jets/Western Corridor rule out playing at Suncorp then they rule themselves out of an expansion spot.

They plan to start out playing at Suncorp, then once it is built play out of a proposed new stadium built in either Springfield or in the Ripley Valley.

BTW, this is one of the biggest flaws in the bid IMO...

 

[The Great Dane]

I'm not sure thst geography will provide a differential because broncos formed as an all of brisbane team and didn't grow geographically from a suburb. They are pretty equally supported and opposed in all areas of brisbane..there is no north v south v east v west rivallry with broncos. I don't think geography will do it unless they are genuinely in seq but not brisbane. Alternately they need to be the brisbane somethings that are counter broncos. I also wonder what the support base will actually look like considering most anti broncs in brisbane probably already support an nrl team. 2nd team def good and needed in bris but who will actually support them. ..maybe that's the clue in how to differentiate a new team.

Most rivalries aren't built on geography anyway, they are built on ideology and circumstantial differences that define separate groups.

For example the rivalry between east and west Sydney isn't actually about the geography, the geography is just a visceral representation of the class divide as it's more expensive to live in the east than in the west so naturally as a result of that more "poor people" live in the west and more "rich people" in the east, it's a class based rivalry.

Though what differences would be the best to exploit in Brisbanes' case is probably better answered by someone from Brisbane rather than me, similar differences that could be exploited to create a rivalry definitely exist in Brisbane, they exist in every population to some extent.

 

[The Great Dane]

Not so good for marketing purposes PR. SOUTH Queensland is not an attractive/successful name (think they were ousted pretty quick-1year maybe two? ) And an attractive name for fans is generally with two syllables. "Jets" has one syllable. Something like Dolphins, Brothers etc can be easily chanted by attending fans. The name must be catchy and user friendly unlike most of your ideas.FYI. Just some things you generally miss PR.

LOL.

 

[Perth Red]

Not so good for marketing purposes PR. SOUTH Queensland is not an attractive/successful name (think they were ousted pretty quick-1year maybe two? ) And an attractive name for fans is generally with two syllables. "Jets" has one syllable. Something like Dolphins, Brothers etc can be easily chanted by attending fans. The name must be catchy and user friendly unlike most of your ideas.FYI. Just some things you generally miss PR.

hah, now I know you're trolling! two syllable names being an expansion criteria to make it easier for fans to chant. lol and shake of the head.

 

[Perth Red]

Ipswich have a State of Origin style dislike for Brisbane. They are very proud of their Jets and won't want them playing out of Suncorp.

Then they shouldn't be the expansion choice. Any new club has to be representing a broad swathe of Brisbane and play out of suncorp or they will be doomed to fail.

 

[Stallion]

So new bids should be assessed on how easy their name is to chant? lol - just, lol

Thought I'd get this reaction.to only a small thought but significant for supporter enjoyment later on. But could see the peanuts being thrown anyway.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Then they shouldn't be the expansion choice. Any new club has to be representing a broad swathe of Brisbane and play out of suncorp or they will be doomed to fail.

I agree - they are a suburban team and we don't need more of those in the NRL.

 

[Stallion]

Then they shouldn't be the expansion choice. Any new club has to be representing a broad swathe of Brisbane and play out of suncorp or they will be doomed to fail.

You are making sense! Has to be the way you have put it! Any other way would not work.

 

[Stallion]

I agree - they are a suburban team and we don't need more of those in the NRL.

No argument there . It's the established well known popular ones that need and deserve respect!

 

[Perth Red]

only a small thought .

Most sensible thing you have said in this thread!

 

[Perth Red]

I agree - they are a suburban team and we don't need more of those in the NRL.

Never mind not needing more, we need less! 10k in Sydney on a sunny sunday afternoon for the western "derby", suburban sides are not what this top tier of the sport needs!

 

[Stallion]

Never mind not needing more, we need less! 10k in Sydney on a sunny sunday afternoon for the western "derby", suburban sides are not what this top tier of the sport needs!

Still proving to be dumb PR!

 

[Stallion]

Still proving to be dumb PR!

The established Sydney clubs have massive fanbases and long earnt notoriety around Australia. You just don't get it!