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Ref and Bunker Decisions

gerg

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Parra Captains Challenge for a strip on RCG (?). McLean I think it was clearly raked at the ball. So clear even boofhead Shouty Dan saw it. Bunker misses it though.

Last Penrith try really deserved a few reviews. Looked like it could have been an obstruction?
 

Warrimoo3

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For the 2nd week running the bunker used the term “moderate force” when describing a collision . Do they have a force gauge now in the bunker? If anyone watched the last episode of The Bye Round”. , James Graham and Aaron Woods ripped the bunker and referees to shreds over their interpretations of the obstruction rule and head high tackles. They showed tries where the Tigers and Eels defences were obstructed by lead runners when conceding tries but since the affected defenders involved didn’t take a dive , the tries were awarded. Graham said that if he was coaching either team he would have to tell them to dive to get the penalty.

They also had a laugh at the Ponga “high tackle” penalty against Penrith (which was a great ball and all tackle , and asked whether the penalty would be given if the beneficiary wasn’t a ’
 

Warrimoo3

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For the 2nd week running the bunker used the term “moderate force” when describing a collision . Do they have a force gauge now in the bunker? If anyone watched the last episode of The Bye Round”. , James Graham and Aaron Woods ripped the bunker and referees to shreds over their interpretations of the obstruction rule and head high tackles. They showed tries where the Tigers and Eels defences were obstructed by lead runners when conceding tries but since the affected defenders involved didn’t take a dive , the tries were awarded. Graham said that if he was coaching either team he would have to tell them to dive to get the penalty.

They also had a laugh at the Ponga “high tackle” penalty against Penrith (which was a great ball and all tackle , and asked whether the penalty would be given if the beneficiary wasn’t a ’
Top team .They also mocked the use of the term “moderate force” by the bunker .
 

kurt faulk

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Penriff's second last try. The chaser, #4, was a metre or two offside and had an impact on the fullback knocking the ball on. Nothing from the bunker. They are useless. And it was so obvious.

I hate the bunker so much.

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Saxon

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For the 2nd week running the bunker used the term “moderate force” when describing a collision . Do they have a force gauge now in the bunker? If anyone watched the last episode of The Bye Round”. , James Graham and Aaron Woods ripped the bunker and referees to shreds over their interpretations of the obstruction rule and head high tackles. They showed tries where the Tigers and Eels defences were obstructed by lead runners when conceding tries but since the affected defenders involved didn’t take a dive , the tries were awarded. Graham said that if he was coaching either team he would have to tell them to dive to get the penalty.

They also had a laugh at the Ponga “high tackle” penalty against Penrith (which was a great ball and all tackle , and asked whether the penalty would be given if the beneficiary wasn’t a ’
Earbiter Graham and Sharon Woods. Now ain't they a pair of Rugby League intellectuals.
 
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Iamback

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Parra Captains Challenge for a strip on RCG (?). McLean I think it was clearly raked at the ball. So clear even boofhead Shouty Dan saw it. Bunker misses it though.

Last Penrith try really deserved a few reviews. Looked like it could have been an obstruction?

I think Asi went for Martin not the other way around but likely was square up for some poor calls earlier
 

Pjf04b

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I just hope that StGeorge and the Dogs don't get the type of rulings Penrith did last night as there could be trouble in the crowd!
Some of the rulings were from the back pages of the rule book as Ivan put it.
 

kurt faulk

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The fox knocks lomax out of the way a second before the ball comes down from a bomb. The dork with the whistle does nothing. The play ends with the dogs getting a repeat set where they score the winning try.

These refs are useless. It couldn't have been a more obvious penalty.

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Meth

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In less than 5 minutes, the refs gifted the Dolphins 8 points. A soft penalty and missed a blatant forward pass.

The Dolphins won by 2 points in GP

Terrible performance from Wyatt Raymond and some bald touch judge
 

Warrimoo3

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In less than 5 minutes, the refs gifted the Dolphins 8 points. A soft penalty and missed a blatant forward pass.

The Dolphins won by 2 points in GP

Terrible performance from Wyatt Raymond and some bald touch judge
Eyesight deteriorates with age . Then why are touch judges so old ? Seems to be a tradition in rugby league .
 
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I just hope that StGeorge and the Dogs don't get the type of rulings Penrith did last night as there could be trouble in the crowd!
Some of the rulings were from the back pages of the rule book as Ivan put it.
I’m a Penrith fan, but you do realise the back pages of the rule book are still in the rule book?
 

Pjf04b

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But they were used for the one and only time this year. Have you ever seen a team penalised for a push in the back on a normal kick off? Or a penalty because a push on a kicker was unnecessary? And how many players put the leg out when catching a kick without getting penalised?
Imagine what would happen if these were applied on a consistent basis. There would be so many penalties and there would an uproar!
 

Penrose Warrior

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Seriously? They had no idea what is a knock on or back, if a pass went forward or backwards. They were terrible.
If you want a stone-clad case study of what I'm saying, watch a replay of the All Blacks v Argentina game on Sat night v what our game produces. OK, you probably would rather stick pins in your eyes...but that game, officiated by Angus Gardner, was a clear example of what I'm saying.

Union is a basket case, but Gardner - a smart guy, well-versed with the rules and a strong communication style - did an outstanding job. He actually over-ruled a TMO decision on a high tackle, just used his common sense. And any borderline call (which there always is) the players can accept, because his communication is spot on. That was the best officiated game I've seen in forever.

Contrast that with the shitstorm we have. I'll use the Warriors Dolphins game, given that's the only full game I watched this weekend. There were a bunch of shit decisions that the Ray Charles' in yellow got wrong, and not only that, they run around like bumbling fools and you've never got any confidence they'll get anything right. RTS gets penalised and the Phins kick two points (game went to GP, remember) for the most ridiculous 'high shot' decision you'll see. Walker gets 10 in the bin because Nicholls folds and drops his body at the last minute. A clear forward pass in the lead-up to Nikorima's try. This happens every game.
 

Maximus

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If you want a stone-clad case study of what I'm saying, watch a replay of the All Blacks v Argentina game on Sat night v what our game produces. OK, you probably would rather stick pins in your eyes...but that game, officiated by Angus Gardner, was a clear example of what I'm saying.

Union is a basket case, but Gardner - a smart guy, well-versed with the rules and a strong communication style - did an outstanding job. He actually over-ruled a TMO decision on a high tackle, just used his common sense. And any borderline call (which there always is) the players can accept, because his communication is spot on. That was the best officiated game I've seen in forever.

Contrast that with the shitstorm we have. I'll use the Warriors Dolphins game, given that's the only full game I watched this weekend. There were a bunch of shit decisions that the Ray Charles' in yellow got wrong, and not only that, they run around like bumbling fools and you've never got any confidence they'll get anything right. RTS gets penalised and the Phins kick two points (game went to GP, remember) for the most ridiculous 'high shot' decision you'll see. Walker gets 10 in the bin because Nicholls folds and drops his body at the last minute. A clear forward pass in the lead-up to Nikorima's try. This happens every game.

That's because when one of our refs f**ks up, rather than trying to fix the issues, we get Annesley come out on a monday morning and claims that what everybody saw didn't actually happen, and the ref was completely right. Why would any ref ever bother to seek to improve when there is never any repercussions for blatantly cheating teams out of games.
 

gerg

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If you want a stone-clad case study of what I'm saying, watch a replay of the All Blacks v Argentina game on Sat night v what our game produces. OK, you probably would rather stick pins in your eyes...but that game, officiated by Angus Gardner, was a clear example of what I'm saying.

Union is a basket case, but Gardner - a smart guy, well-versed with the rules and a strong communication style - did an outstanding job. He actually over-ruled a TMO decision on a high tackle, just used his common sense. And any borderline call (which there always is) the players can accept, because his communication is spot on. That was the best officiated game I've seen in forever.

Contrast that with the shitstorm we have. I'll use the Warriors Dolphins game, given that's the only full game I watched this weekend. There were a bunch of shit decisions that the Ray Charles' in yellow got wrong, and not only that, they run around like bumbling fools and you've never got any confidence they'll get anything right. RTS gets penalised and the Phins kick two points (game went to GP, remember) for the most ridiculous 'high shot' decision you'll see. Walker gets 10 in the bin because Nicholls folds and drops his body at the last minute. A clear forward pass in the lead-up to Nikorima's try. This happens every game.
How many forward passes did old Union mate let go? Complaining about forward passes in league yet using a Union ref as your flag bearer. They blow 50 penalties a game. They sinbin players for getting an intercept wrong.

The officiating in league isn't good at the moment but step back and take a look at the state of both codes. It's pretty clear that Union is in a pretty shit position.
 

Mr. Shaman

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How many forward passes did old Union mate let go? Complaining about forward passes in league yet using a Union ref as your flag bearer. They blow 50 penalties a game. They sinbin players for getting an intercept wrong.

The officiating in league isn't good at the moment but step back and take a look at the state of both codes. It's pretty clear that Union is in a pretty shit position.
The product is shit, but match officials in RU shit all over RL from a great height.

We shouldn’t be poaching their players, it’s the refs we should be targeting.
 

colly

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In less than 5 minutes, the refs gifted the Dolphins 8 points. A soft penalty and missed a blatant forward pass.

The Dolphins won by 2 points in GP

Terrible performance from Wyatt Raymond and some bald touch judge
Yes I folloed the bald sideline ref in the replay, 'baldy' couldn't keep up and didn't look anyway, he was looking where he steps. JOKE
 

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