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Ref and Bunker Decisions

_Johnsy

Referee
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@Vee

Can you give me some feedback on one of the North Qld tries against the Dragons on the weekend? (Kind of curious if I’m just being one eyed).

Cowboys player is tackled low. Arm carrying the ball hits the ground short of the line with tackler still connected. Momentum seems to be moving him forward as he turns over onto his front and extends his arm, all in one motion. He scores.

Double movement?
If the arm carrying the ball hits the ground before being promoted, no try. If the arm carrying the ball doesn’t make contact with the ground before being promoted, try.
 

gerg

Juniors
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Going back to Thursday night I thought Manly's first try was an obstruction from Olakatoa. He stopped in the line, Staines had to sidestep him twice. First to engage the man with the ball and then had to go around Olakatoa again when the ball was passed, he lost his footing and the overlap was there for the taking. This was a clear example of why the 'black and white' ruling - of having to run through the line - was introduced. As usual once we lose the consistency it becomes a coin toss.
 

Chimp

Bench
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The thing you are seeing with the refs and the Bulldogs, the rest of us have been sick of the last 4 years with the refs and Panthers.
One thing that I’m noticing, the Bulldogs are getting away with blue murder with their wrestle/spoiling/slowing the ptb tactics.
Almost every single tackle they’re really pushing it to the boundary with wrestle, hands/feet tangled in the ruck, or even really late shoves/pressure - it’s like vintage Melbourne cheating.
They’re winning collisions, which helps with perception of being ‘in control’ to the ref, but they’re being allowed to push it too far, and it’s giving them a massive competitive advantage.
 

gerg

Juniors
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One thing that I’m noticing, the Bulldogs are getting away with blue murder with their wrestle/spoiling/slowing the ptb tactics.
Almost every single tackle they’re really pushing it to the boundary with wrestle, hands/feet tangled in the ruck, or even really late shoves/pressure - it’s like vintage Melbourne cheating.
They’re winning collisions, which helps with perception of being ‘in control’ to the ref, but they’re being allowed to push it too far, and it’s giving them a massive competitive advantage.

Been doing it all year. Mahoney waltzes in with a late flop on the ruck every second tackle.
 

firechild

First Grade
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Going back to Thursday night I thought Manly's first try was an obstruction from Olakatoa. He stopped in the line, Staines had to sidestep him twice. First to engage the man with the ball and then had to go around Olakatoa again when the ball was passed, he lost his footing and the overlap was there for the taking. This was a clear example of why the 'black and white' ruling - of having to run through the line - was introduced. As usual once we lose the consistency it becomes a coin toss.
Who is Olakatoa?
 
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