Refs

[Keffola]

It was the fact they Qld scored off the back of those penalties that gave them so many sets of 6.

Having said that, you could say that 3 out of 4 of those penalties probably were deserving. And last one a 50/50. And QLD fully deserve credit in taking the most of their chances they were given.

But its actually the penalties that weren't blown for NSW that was the killer

You refer to NSW errors but how many errors can they make if they don't have ball in hand??. They pretty much only had 3 sets in the first 20 minutes and they competed 2 sets. The other was a knock on called against Hoffman when the ball was blatantly ripped out by Smith. And it wasn't just NSW laying in the ruck or offside.

QLD would have been good enough on the night anyway. It was just disappointing to see the refs taking the contest out of the game. NSW were just not given a chance.

 

[Desert Qlder]

One of the main problems in Origin officiating is that not enough penalties are blown.

Watch matches from the eighties and the early nineties and blokes like Mick Stone and David Manson were blowing the pea numerous times in the early exchanges to stamp their authority on the match. This approach has been sorely lost and players are left unsure of where they stand.

If penalties really are too much of an advantage for teams and as a result referees are reluctant to give them, then perhaps a change is needed. For instance, rather than the free kick downfield for territory, perhaps a tap only would suffice. By doing this teams are not given the extraordinary field position advantage that would otherwise result.

That way refs can enforce rules stringently without fear of being seen to advantage one side over the other.

 

[Keffola]

I feel its more about consistency of rulings for both teams rather than penalties blown. If they blow penalties for one side, they need to blow it for the other too. Conversely if they let things go one way, then they need to do the same for the other side.

Refs are too influenced by the "home crowd advantage" these days. NSW got the benefit in game 1, now QLD in game 2...... lets see what happens in game 3.................

 

[mberg]

Angus young does some good riffing.

don't forget malcolm.

 

[Maroon4life]

It was the fact they Qld scored off the back of those penalties that gave them so many sets of 6.

Having said that, you could say that 3 out of 4 of those penalties probably were deserving. And last one a 50/50. And QLD fully deserve credit in taking the most of their chances they were given.

But its actually the penalties that weren't blown for NSW that was the killer

You refer to NSW errors but how many errors can they make if they don't have ball in hand??. They pretty much only had 3 sets in the first 20 minutes and they competed 2 sets. The other was a knock on called against Hoffman when the ball was blatantly ripped out by Smith. And it wasn't just NSW laying in the ruck or offside.

QLD would have been good enough on the night anyway. It was just disappointing to see the refs taking the contest out of the game. NSW were just not given a chance.

Stfu, you lost because your pathetic state is full of useless merkins. Refs were fine.

 

[Knightmare]

Ha. Right. You'd also believe Barry Gomersall was fair and balanced...

 

[Tweed Titan]

Refs were shit in the first 30 minutes where they gifted QLD most of their points. Anyone saying otherwise is a f**king moron. But going on the rest of the match we deserved to be beaten. We had a few useless picks in our team who didn't deserve to be there and we couldn't match the enthusiasm of QLD. Also wtf was with the four binnings? Absolute f**king rubbish.

Well done QD you deserved the win but to say the refs weren't one-sided is idiotic.

This 100%

 

[Desert Qlder]

So essentially what we are seeing is NSW supporters say that when a side has a 100% completion rate that will not equate to dominating neither territory nor possession.

Only referees can guarantee you these things.

f**kin stupid roaches.

 

[Knightmare]

That's a bit of an overstatement. The referees do, in some sense, guarantee you territory. Possession is up to the players...

 

[Maroon4life]

So essentially what we are seeing is NSW supporters say that when a side has a 100% completion rate that will not equate to dominating neither territory nor possession.

Only referees can guarantee you these things.

f**kin stupid roaches.

Yeah, sore losing merkins, cant lose with dignity.

 

[Knightmare]

:lol: Pot. Kettle...

 

[Desert Qlder]

That's a bit of an overstatement. The referees do, in some sense, guarantee you territory. Possession is up to the players...

Well stop giving away penalties then you won't have any problem.

Too f**king dumb to get though aren't you mob?

 

[no name]

The biggest thing that stuck out for me last night was the inconsistencies in rulings between the 2 refs, starting with the 10m rulings.
Hayne set his 10 close to twice as big as Klein's.
Holding down was penalised by one ref and similar tackles were let go by the other.
One ref needs to be in control of such interpretive rules for a whole game.

 

[Desert Qlder]

The biggest thing that stuck out for me last night was the inconsistencies in rulings between the 2 refs, starting with the 10m rulings.
Hayne set his 10 close to twice as big as Klein's.
Holding down was penalised by one ref and similar tackles were let go by the other.
One ref needs to be in control of such interpretive rules for a whole game.

That would seem to be a game wide problem and a product of the two ref system.

The nature of human differences will always see to this under such a system.

Unfortunately Rugby League does not adequately address nor contemplate such vagaries when making large decisions about the game.

 

[no name]

Agreed its a game wide thing, it just really stuck out for me last night more than usual.

 

[Knightmare]

Well stop giving away penalties then you won't have any problem.

Too f**king dumb to get though aren't you mob?

Cool, I love insulting random people on the internet, makes me big and tough like Nate Myles...

 

[Mortar]

Cool, I love insulting random people on the internet, makes me big and tough like Nate Myles...

Nate belongs in mensa compared to you.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Cool, I love insulting random people on the internet, makes me big and tough like Nate Myles...

Trust a simpleton Queenslander to think everything is a personal attack.

Happens every day on this forum fella. Now suddenly it is an issue because someone is having a go at your mob?

Is there anything you won't whinge about?

This is Origin time, harden up you daisy.

 

[Knightmare]

You called me "too f**king dumb", just because you assumed my statement that the refs guarantee a team territory on the field was some "we got screwed by the refs" cop out, which it wasn't.

 

[isaiah]

lol, 139 posts, thats 5 minutes of my life i'll never get back. thought the blues fans in here were fairly restrained and giving credit where it was due, to a champion side. bring on game 3.