Refs

[taxidriver]

The refs were rubbish but that is to be expected these days (whether it's NRL or origin). However, they had little bearing on the result.

please explain to me how that opening 20 minutes had little bearing on the result

 

[Knightmare]

The refs were rubbish but that is to be expected these days (whether it's NRL or origin). However, they had little bearing on the result.

I do think it's funny how short the memories of the QLD posters are after the monumental whinge after game 1.

Exactly!

 

[firechild]

please explain to me how that opening 20 minutes had little bearing on the result

They may have had some bearing but the QLD forwards dominated from the opening whistle. The refs didn't leave the yawning gap big enough for Thaiday to drive a truck through. The refs didn't tell Merritt to stand around in a position where he couldn't contribute anything to the game.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Only a matter of time before my stalker drops in.

Flattering yourself again I see. It speaks volumes about your ego that you think someone replying to you is 'stalking' you.

I said nothing about Queenslanders whinging about refs. I simply said they had a monumental whinge. I guess you can only be called a whinger if you are whinging about refs?

When your post is in reference to (and in a thread about) refs deciding the outcome, one could only assume what I assumed. Not to worry though, I'm sure you'll be more specific next time.

 

[firechild]

Sorry, I really should cater my language to the lowest common denominator, especially when many of the contributors are Queenslanders. I was simply responding to initial response from Queenslanders about NSW fans whinging. Yes, some fans are whinging about the refs but QLD fans also whinged after the last game (plenty had a sook about Gallen not being binned - so, yes, there was whinging about the refs as well as the MRC, judiciary). Mal definitely had a sook about the refs after game 1.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Sorry, I really should cater my language to the lowest common denominator, especially when many of the contributors are Queenslanders. I was simply responding to initial response from Queenslanders about NSW fans whinging. Yes, some fans are whinging about the refs but QLD fans also whinged after the last game (plenty had a sook about Gallen not being binned - so, yes, there was whinging about the refs as well as the MRC, judiciary). Mal definitely had a sook about the refs after game 1.

So you then see the irony in your post, and mine, and anyone from either side who objects to whinging. Both sides do it, hell even NSW fans whinged after winning game one.

You say short memories of QLD fans in objecting to whinging after this game, but one could also say short memories to NSW fans who objected to that whinging and are whinging now...

 

[hellteam]

the same way players have their papers stamped never to play origin again, these two imbeciles (and whoever was the video ref last night) need to have theirs stamped never to ref origin again

due to their incredible ineptitude they failed to send gallen to the sin bin in origin 1 which resulted in a backlash from all the mummies and wankers out there who decried "think of the children" which led to david smith bringing in the moronic "any punch goes to the sinbin" rule.

they then presided over the farcical binning of 4 people in origin 2 (with the help of whoever was in the box) to reduce our showpiece game to a game of soccer for 10 mins. On the rule smith brought in Merrin should have been sent to the bin, there's an argument hodges should have gone, but how the f**k these idiots came up with Bird who was trying to stop it escalating, and Tate who was the punchee is beyond belief.

so now because of the idiocy of the officials in charge our showpiece game has descended into refereeing decisions as opposed to the fact that both winning teams were excellent in their performances.

well done hayne and klein, even harrigan couldnt take the attention away from the footy like you two spastics

100% agree on this, Klein especially is a terrible referee and I have no idea how he got to ref these games.

You mention it's the refs fault about the backlash, it's the ref's fault that he didn't penalise Gallen for the high tackle in the first place - which he was looking directly at! If there was a penalty then straight away, no fight, no backlash. of course then the decision not to sin bin Gallen was ridiculous.

Plus last night, either ref clearly should have given Qld a penalty for holding down just before the incident. If he blew the penalty earlier, Tate wouldn't have pushed, no fight. Gallen was on that tackle for an age.

And 4 to the bin...what a joke.

 

[firechild]

Of course both sides do it. This is exactly what I was pointing out.

 

[Tera]

Your tears are delicious.

 

[Someone]

Your tears are delicious.

Hypocrisy. Lets be honest, everybody cries. (REM song)

 

[Frailty]

All I can say is thank f**k Harrigan is no longer in charge...

He said he would have had Hayne and either Cummins or Cecchin for game II....

 

[Desert Qlder]

The penalty on Jennings was ridiculous, but I'm not a fan generally on not being allowed to pressure kickers.

Apart from that NSW have no other reason to complain, but they will.

 

[Tera]

The penalty on Jennings was ridiculous, but I'm not a fan generally on not being allowed to pressure kickers.

Apart from that NSW have no other reason to complain, but they will.

Pretty much this. I will concede that I thought that penalty was soft but honestly QLD were by FAR the better team last night.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Well four penalties were blown against NSW in the first twenty minutes.

One was for Maloney's blatant attempted strip - fair;
Next was for marker woefully offside - fair;
Then Jennings - unfair, but that is what they call these days;
Lastly was Fifita having a slumber party on Hodges - fair. Fifita has form in this regard and has let his ill-discipline get the better of him.

Hardly the "stitch-up" that has been referred to on this forum. But when NSW have a culture that is centred on one Paul Gallen and his constant "woe is us" routine, then they will always have a whinge first mentality.

NSW supporters, being in the throes of hero worship they have for their skipper just do not realise how debilitating he really is for the side. Especially so him being the leader.

 

[Big Pete]

At the end of the day, we can all admit these referees aren't up to it. 50/50 calls are going to happen and they went both ways last night but the biggest problem with their performance was how they policed the ruck. It got to the stage where the players had to take business into their own hands and it lead to that comical 11 v 11 scenario which really tainted the game.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Gavin Badger deserves a gig in these big games.

 

[Aspley Owl]

Well four penalties were blown against NSW in the first twenty minutes.

One was for Maloney's blatant attempted strip - fair;
Next was for marker woefully offside - fair;
Then Jennings - unfair, but that is what they call these days;
Lastly was Fifita having a slumber party on Hodges - fair. Fifita has form in this regard and has let his ill-discipline get the better of him.

Hardly the "stitch-up" that has been referred to on this forum. But when NSW have a culture that is centred on one Paul Gallen and his constant "woe is us" routine, then they will always have a whinge first mentality.

NSW supporters, being in the throes of hero worship they have for their skipper just do not realise how debilitating he really is for the side. Especially so him being the leader.

Maloney's Fair = Yes
Smith Strip on Hoffman - No Penalty - Resulted in Try from next
Jennings on Thurston - Poor!! Origin Footy and already committed
Fafita - Hodges as usual holding on to his jumper via the neck while fafita is half up - Poor they all know Hodges does it nearly every tackle.
Thurston Accidental chop on Lewis - Nothing albeit accidental contact with the head but nothing.

Gallen is not the best with Refs 100% but he is our Leader that they look upto how he plays the game. It does not take away the fact that 15mins the game was gone and was becoming farsical. No penalty against Slater to i might add.
The Refs were bad but QLD won sure but i wonder if it was not 4 - 0 in the 1st 15mins what the game might have been like. How QLD were offside in defence well offside and not penalised once in the 1st 20mins come on we all saw that regardless of what colour you spill.

We just want the 2 teams to play with no help or poor calls. Last night was the worst since 2009 Melbourne as far as poor critical decisions.

 

[ek999]

Kasey Badger would have been a better choice then the two we had last night

 

[taxidriver]

One was for Maloney's blatant attempted strip - fair;
Next was for marker woefully offside - fair;
Then Jennings - unfair, but that is what they call these days;
Lastly was Fifita having a slumber party on Hodges - fair. Fifita has form in this regard and has let his ill-discipline get the better of him.
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1 - where was the strip call on Smith not long after and just before a qld try?
2 - are you suggesting the QLD markers were square and onside, let alone the rest of the team (aerial shots showed them offside more than on), where was the NSW penalty for the same or did they only ref one side?
3 - no they dont call those hits penalties these days, thats why this call was a stitch up
4 - again, NSW penalised for this 2 or 3 times, QLD not once. are you going to tell me only one side did it?

those 4 penalties directly resulted in NSW making 120 tackles to QLD 27. they directly lead to the field position and possesion that QLD capitalised on.
they lead to NSW being fatigued in the second half when they eventually got some ball.

that opening twenty minutes gave QLD a golden opportunity which they duly took and hammered home.

 

[ek999]

NSW wouldn't have won last night regardless of who reffed the match but it was extremely poor. But neither of them are good enough to ref a Group 11 Reserve Grade match. I'm still trying to work out why Bird and Tate were sin-binned. If they deserved to go then every single player should have been sin-binned