Repression of rugby league : Information to share and discussion.

Discussion in 'International' started by Stallion, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    Yes. We agree. However other rival codes have their part to play. Some (RU) more than others. Not acknowledging that these external factors are champing at the bit to see the demise of rugby league is not wise. Both internally and externally rugby league is at fault and under threat. If it wasn't such a great product to view and play I would have thrown in the towel long ago. But it's not! It's the most entertaining, character building ,physically challenging and potentially universally accepted football code on earth, however the above mentioned reasons/factors are limiting it's reach and relevance.
     
  2. Te Kaha

    Te Kaha Moderator

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    You claimed that League was being repressed in schools in NZ Not a school, not some schools, but schools in general. By definition that would mean it was systematic. Do you even know what the word means?

    So if you are sure it isn't "systematic" then it would mean its isolated and therefore make your entire argument null and void. are you sure you are a teacher?
     
  3. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    Lol. Let there be no doubt, others including myself believe rugby league is being repressed not only in NZ but many places elsewhere around the world. I have articles I can quote you detailing these examples of repression. If you (as a rugby league fan) doubt the integrity of writers such as Dreaneen, I believe you are disingenuous as far as rugby league is concerned. I am of the opinion that rugby league is not been given a fair go in NZ and its lack of presence in that countries schools shows this repression. When I read that people have been caned for playing rugby league it adds to this belief.
     
  4. Te Kaha

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    Integrity?You do know that "Dreaneen" wants to kill League don't you? Have you actually looked at what his agenda is? no? I didn't think so. His quote from his profile "My dream is for rugby league and rugby union to merge into one code" he wants to kill two sports and create an abortion of a game.

    It is your opinion, based on your feelings, not based on actual evidence. That's why you get such a hard time in here. You can't provide evidence to support your claims.

    Normally unsourced allegations like you are making are deleted out of hand. Accusations require evidence. Do you want the website to go down that root?
     
  5. titoelcolombiano

    titoelcolombiano Juniors

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    RL has been under threat since 1895, yet here we are in 2019 bigger than ever
     
  6. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    Agree. Rugby league has been vulnerable since it's break from union. Just believe it has not reached anywhere near the relevance and popularity it deserves.
     
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  7. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    I'm not commenting on tangents about what Dreaneen aspires for rugby league/union. What I do know is that article is very informative on the repression of rugby league in South Africa and touches on other areas of repression around the world. To my way of thinking and most reasonable people that's valid and proactive discourse on rugby league. Your INPUT is NOT!
     
  8. Te Kaha

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    so you trust someone who makes unsourced unspecified comments in an opinion piece, because it agrees with your confirmation bias but ignore what else he says because they don't....
     
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  9. Timmah

    Timmah LeagueUnlimited News Editor Staff Member

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    It's not an 'opinion'. You've attempted to extrapolate a single event into systemic bias with no substantive evidence (i.e. not your opinion or your feeling or your suspicion, none of which are admissable as evidence).

    If your claim that such treatment is more widespread then you are required to provide sources to substantiate that claim.

    Until such time, what amounts to a conspiracy theory and nothing more is not worth discussing.
     
  10. Valheru

    Valheru First Grade

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    I have asked you this before and you haven't been able to provide a proper response but will ask again

    What do you mean by deserve?

    Quite clearly you believe RL is the best sport on earth, an opinion i agree but that is not enough to say that it should be the most popular sport worldwide.
     
  11. Perth Red

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    lol, now I'm really confused. Was it union or AFL's fault? Its hard to keep up with the conspiracies!!
     
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  13. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    My opinion is that you are wrong! It is clearly an opinion based on telltale evidence which some of you choose to deflect and ridicule.
     
  14. Timmah

    Timmah LeagueUnlimited News Editor Staff Member

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    "Telltale evidence" is not substantive.

    As per this forum's guidelines which are clearly laid out, you are to provide sources to back your claim.

    Failing to do so will result in further consequences.
     
  15. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    I'm glad we agree about rugby league. That's a good start. I'm stating that the many barriers and obstacles rugby league has faced has detrimentally affected it's growth worldwide and in Australia. If these barriers /obstacles like : the banning of the code in France, the rare access to elite private schooling, the non recognition of it as an international sport which has negated various countries govt funding of this code, the jailing of entrepreneurs in the UAE seeking to start up rugby-league, the banning of rugby league in various military regimes for many decades and the lack of high powered business support (*due in some way to lack of elite school presence of rugby league worldwide) and more if you would like me to go on, has hindered the ability for this code to grow. On top of this, incompetent internal administration has its role as well. Rugby league has not achieved what the code deserves in so far as popularity worldwide and its relevance is concerned. As we both admire this supreme football code that's the 'deserve' bit of the comment you asked for.
     
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  16. Pommy

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    Ok but specifically what rugby union people had control over the ashes, in the wall of text you forgot the key point. Facts please.
     
  17. Timmah

    Timmah LeagueUnlimited News Editor Staff Member

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    This is probably your most impressive post so far. More of this and less of the conspiracies and you'll likely get a better response to what you're trying to discuss.
     
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  18. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    Thanks Timmah!
     
  19. Stallion

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    Thanks Timmah. I've probably assumed a prior knowledge on a rugby league website. That's probably frustrated some of my responses. Suppose we are all learning.
     
  20. Stallion

    Stallion First Grade

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    I'm aware of a few rugby union people(Pat Howard and someone else?) involved with the Cricket Australia over this time leading into the Rugby league world cup. Just noticed a coincidence of an Ashes cricket day/night test match clashing with the rugby league world cup final date as a tad too coincidental.
     
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