Respected & Feared? Why Fans Optimism For 2009 Is All Hope No Substance

[doggone]

Who cares what Captains think some of those answers were a bit tongue in cheek.

 

[Karmawave]

Who cares what Captains think some of those answers were a bit tongue in cheek.

What, all 15 of them?

Where's the answers you speak of anyway :lol:

 

[Apey]

To be fair, a lot of Knights fans are morons.

Pft, people in general are morons. I hope this statement isn't meant to imply we have morons than other teams do, supporter wise

 

[doggone]

I would say most answers, because I don't think Captains give a rats arse about polls, it's just their opinion. (15 players) It's all about the selling papers. Anything for a story.

anyhow that's my opinion end of story.

 

[Karmawave]

I would say most answers, because I don't think Captains give a rats arse about polls, it's just their opinion. (15 players) It's all about the selling papers. Anything for a story.

anyhow that's my opinion end of story.

So you are only ASSUMING that all 15 captains failed to pick the Rabbitohs, Raiders, Panthers and Knights as a Top 8 chance because their responses were all tongue in cheek.

All 15 of them.

Ok, sweet.

 

[mozza91]

Predictions are absolutly useless until about months in who'd have thought teams like Panthers in 03 would win the minor premiership, or the Tigers the 4 in 05.
That's the thing about the NRL all teams have a chance of making the top 4

 

[cram]

Taking the opinions of one red eye one blue eye supporters in this forum, and applying it across the spectrum of all Knights fans does not equate to the actual reality.

Maybe you should get out more amongst the pubs and clubs and speak to a few other Knights ' fans '...

I've had just as many people around me talking down the reappointment of Smith as people who believe it was a good decision.

I maintain what I said. It has created mixed reactions from what I've seen.

Your opinion based on the places/people that you associate with. I have heard few people say much about it at all.

In fact many believe that conditions placed on the extension actually make it a good signing. Had they have given him a three year extension without the KPI then there would have been more reaction in the negative.

 

[Medievalknight]

Hey Karma..................get a bigger spoon will you... :lol::lol: ....andddd

maybe a bigger pot to go with it :crazy:

 

[Karmawave]

In fact many believe that conditions placed on the extension actually make it a good signing.

And I agree with that myself...

 

[Hanscholo]

Lets revisit this one shall well...For now, I'll keep my own council on the quality of the side.

 

[roopy]

Lets revisit this one shall well...For now, I'll keep my own council on the quality of the side.

I'm prepared to say it - i'm thinking Smith has got together a side close to his best sides at Parra - not quite the 2001 side - but good enough to challenge for our first minor premiership.

 

[Yosh]

I'm prepared to say it - i'm thinking Smith has got together a side close to his best sides at Parra - not quite the 2001 side - but good enough to challenge for our first minor premiership.

Big call... Big Big call... I cant see how our side is a great side really on paper...

 

[Frederick]

Big call... Big Big call... I cant see how our side is a great side really on paper...

I can. Our forward pack can match it with any other out there. Big, mobile, skillful bunch who are stinging in defence, led around by one of the best up-and-coming hookers. Our backs are anchored by one of the best players in the game, and definitely the fittest. We have nuggety centres with low centres of gravity and great leg drive, the safest winger in the comp, and (potentially) the most explosive winger. The only questionmark is over the halves. Mullen is a given, great running 5/8. His partner, though, is the only real weak point in our team as neither Walsh nor Dureau have displayed much in the way of consistancy. We know they can lead the team around, and they can win games, but whether they can do it week in, week out is another question.

 

[roopy]

Smith might not be good at grandfinals, but he is good at minor premierships.
If we get a roll on early we will be an unstoppable force like many Smith coached sides have been in the past.

 

[Rudderriffic]

Who cares what a preseason poll completed by the captains says. Anyone have last years to compare to actual results? Be interesting to see if it is actually even in the ballpark

EDIT: Just found this http://www.stuff.co.nz/4862388a27746.html

Only one person picked Manly to even play in the Grand Final last year after watching a full season of football. Only one person picked Orford as Dally M after watching a full season of football.

So before a ball is kicked can we honestly be worried about this?

Also article on last years (not comprehensive): http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/leagues-burning-issues/2008/02/09/1202234230176.html?page=2

Knights favourties with 3 votes, with Raiders second with two votes, to take out the wooden spoon last year. Two of the captains that voted for the the Knights? One Mr A. Ryan, and one Mr J. Thurston.

The end of a football season is an age away from the end of the preseason.

 

[BG]

Who cares what a preseason poll completed by the captains says. Anyone have last years to compare to actual results? Be interesting to see if it is actually even in the ballpark

EDIT: Just found this http://www.stuff.co.nz/4862388a27746.html

Only one person picked Manly to even play in the Grand Final last year after watching a full season of football. Only one person picked Orford as Dally M after watching a full season of football.

So before a ball is kicked can we honestly be worried about this?

Also article on last years (not comprehensive): http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/leagues-burning-issues/2008/02/09/1202234230176.html?page=2

Knights favourties with 3 votes, with Raiders second with two votes, to take out the wooden spoon last year. Two of the captains that voted for the the Knights? One Mr A. Ryan, and one Mr J. Thurston.

The end of a football season is an age away from the end of the preseason.

Tut tut you are corrupting Karma's thread with common sense, objectivity and pertinent evidence.

 

[Karmawave]

Tut tut you are corrupting Karma's thread with common sense, objectivity and pertinent evidence.

Hang on where is the evidence? :lol:


Who was only the one person who picked Manly to play in the GF last year? All of 2008 was filled with people saying its a ' two team race ' between Manly and Melbourne... WTF? :lol:

We aren't talking about commentator or observer predictions here, we are talking about the beliefs of players who are actually playing the game - lining up each week against the Knights.

All I've seen is a nice column written about the 2009 prospects of the Knights. A column preview that tries to say nice things about all 16 teams... So they predicted us to finish last in 2008? And wow we overachieved and came 9th and still didn't play in the semis.

I hope I'm wrong. And bookmark this next quote for review later in the year... but...

We'll be lucky if we make the Top 12 in 2009. And we sure as all crap won't make the top 4.


Very lucky.

 

[Joker's Wild]

A nothing article and a nothing poll.The day when an oppositions captain's opinion crazy has any bearing on how a team actually performs in a season is the day Im gonna stop watching and supporting Rugby League.

Let them not rate us. Let them underestimate us. Makes it all the better when it bites them on the arse.

 

[macavity]

I hope I'm wrong. And bookmark this next quote for review later in the year... but...

We'll be lucky if we make the Top 12 in 2009. And we sure as all crap won't make the top 4.


Very lucky.

bookmarked.

Top 12? are you high?

Im not exactly known as an optimist, but if we get a fair run with injuries* we should get at least as many wins as we did last year. we are a better team this year IMO. Any year except 2008 we got enough wins to make the 8.


*disclaimer

 

[Serc]

One of your best trolls ever Karma!

What will you do if we make the top 4, or even the top 8 if you are so confident? I've added that one to my small collection of other quotes too

Also, putting my thoughts forward before the season starts - I'm going for us to finish 5th-7th this year.