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Bulldog Force

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lol... guys guys... that's not my collection, simply an image I found on social media. If it was my collection, I'd frequent these forums far less ;)
 

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Interesting. First watch this video, then read the comments beneath it from a YouTuber called Kerns Noelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpCT-pBXQB4&google_comment_id=z13gsfvjykbaur1xx04cifr4qxzlel1ggcs - he brings up some very interesting points sort of countering everything said. It's as if Zoomin are throwing Nintendo Propaganda at all of us.

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5. Sega Master System Had a light gun before the NES, not to mention the multiple other systems that had light guns as well before the NES was made. (good toy, but certainly not the first)
4. That Passive 3D was often a failure (great steps in the right direction) but with that said, if you didn't have good enough eye sight, of if you had glasses, or if you where color blind, or held it at the wrong angle or distance, it failed..
--Again, Not a good thing.. .but certain a step in the right direction.
--Passive 3D isn't new, or innovative as it's been done to death, and PCs are capible of it with the right HW, before the 3DS.
3. Oh, hell no.. the D-pad wasn't a nintendo invention. (Great as it is, the 4 direction pad movement, existed before Intendo, and one woud be hard pressed to find who started it first, but it's for dam sure not Nintendo)
2. Pish... the 6 button was done better with the Sega Genesis. Though as for that controller, 3rd party controler makers beat Nintendo to the punch with shoulder buttons for the genesis, because they thought why not.
1. .... have we forgotten the early PC, & attari, along with arcade cabnits, that introduce analog sticks long before the N64. X.x the N64, just reintroduced them (though frankly I'm fairly sure Sony was going to still go with what they came out with anyways, so.. who knows.)

Very .. piss poor list at trying to make nintendo look good.
 

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I find it hard to agree with criticisms 3 and 1.

3. The critic of the vid says that Nintendo didn't invent the D-Pad, then goes on to say he doesn't know who did. The modern cross-designed d-pad that we all recognise today (not 4 separate buttons that go up down left and right, but a single integrated d-pad) was first used on the original Donkey Kong handheld. Integrating them together into 1 "button" is an innovation in and of itself and a new method of input. If you follow the critics logic to the end then no-one invented anything after basic caveman tools. All inventions and inventors stand on the shoulders of the giants that came before them.

1. Here the critic again refuses to accept a new innovation as an invention. Yes, "joysticks" have been around for eons and were used by Atari, arcade cabinets and you could even call something like a stick-steer moving a rudder on a boat a joystick if you like... but none of them were *thumb*sticks on a handheld controller. It was another legitimate innovation.

I haven't seen the vid yet to know exactly what he's refuting in the other 2 points... but yeah. Nintendo have been and continue to be a legitimately innovative company. Just because something "has been done before" in some way, shape or incarnation... that doesn't make a new use for it, a new way of using a technology or a superior refinement of an established technology any less innovative. As I said, no-one would have invented anything since basic wood and stone tools if this logic is followed all the way.
 

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Mate you said it yourself - innovative. This video suggests they were inventions.

The guy however has gone on to argue his point in many more lines and more posts - it's worth a read in my opinion.
 

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Love them arcades. There was one at a hotel we were staying at, i got into the game list as you do, and yep, found some 16bit strip poker. Played a few games and walked off, thinking nothing of it, turns out no one at the hotel knew how to use the thing, so it stayed there until i came back a week later.
 

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Hah I remember playing a strip poker game at a local arcade when I was like 13 or 14, having no real idea what I was doing then randomly getting a royal flush so it went through pretty much all the Japanese-style cartoon girls doing the striptease animations. Needless to say it made me feel kinda funny like climbing the ropes in gym class.


We had a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles arcade machine at our old flat (now in a mates garage), which had the TMNT arcade game, plus a bunch of other games (on those old motherboard JAMMA things or whatever they're called) including WWF Superstars, some funny Euro soccer game where you kick knock down the ref and players over with flying knees, a golf game and some Double Dragon style game which wasn't actually Double Dragon.

That was good times until some of the wiring stuffed up and the screen went funky and two of the joysticks stopped working so it became a dormant (but still cool looking) relic in the corner of the lounge!
 

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Hah I remember playing a strip poker game at a local arcade when I was like 13 or 14, having no real idea what I was doing then randomly getting a royal flush so it went through pretty much all the Japanese-style cartoon girls doing the striptease animations. Needless to say it made me feel kinda funny like climbing the ropes in gym class.


We had a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles arcade machine at our old flat (now in a mates garage), which had the TMNT arcade game, plus a bunch of other games (on those old motherboard JAMMA things or whatever they're called) including WWF Superstars, some funny Euro soccer game where you kick knock down the ref and players over with flying knees, a golf game and some Double Dragon style game which wasn't actually Double Dragon.

That was good times until some of the wiring stuffed up and the screen went funky and two of the joysticks stopped working so it became a dormant (but still cool looking) relic in the corner of the lounge!

Double Dragon style game - was it Final Fight?
 

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Honestly couldn't tell you. Just remember it being not Double Dragon, hah. It got the least play out of all of the games (the soccer surprisingly got the most playtime in a competitive flatting environment, was so fun especially foul playing everyone on the field with brutal glee!)


Just got myself an S4 last week and downloaded an SNES emulator last night, wooohooo!!!! Especially since I brought our old SNES & games from the parents place back to my flat a while back, only to find it doesn't work any more (power goes on but screen stays black).
Have started with three of the games we owned just to give it a go - WWF Wrestlemania (PINHIIIIM PINHIIIIIM), Mario All Stars & MK3 (though downloaded Ultimate MK3 version which we didn't own).
Was pretty sweet on the bus ride to work, though gotta get used to the touch screen controls!!!

Now just gotta find : Super Return Of The Jedi, Pac Attack, Star Fox, MK1 (I'm sure there's a couple more I can't remember now) to complete the set before going after decent games we never owned back in the 90s.
 

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Honestly couldn't tell you. Just remember it being not Double Dragon, hah. It got the least play out of all of the games (the soccer surprisingly got the most playtime in a competitive flatting environment, was so fun especially foul playing everyone on the field with brutal glee!)


Just got myself an S4 last week and downloaded an SNES emulator last night, wooohooo!!!! Especially since I brought our old SNES & games from the parents place back to my flat a while back, only to find it doesn't work any more (power goes on but screen stays black).
Have started with three of the games we owned just to give it a go - WWF Wrestlemania (PINHIIIIM PINHIIIIIM), Mario All Stars & MK3 (though downloaded Ultimate MK3 version which we didn't own).
Was pretty sweet on the bus ride to work, though gotta get used to the touch screen controls!!!

Now just gotta find : Super Return Of The Jedi, Pac Attack, Star Fox, MK1 (I'm sure there's a couple more I can't remember now) to complete the set before going after decent games we never owned back in the 90s.

I got an emulation pack a few months ago. It contains every SMS and SMD game ever made… so I find myself playing at times games I never even knew existed. As much as I’d love to have these handheld games on my iPad, I can never get used to touch screen controls for games we’d otherwise use a control pad for, so they work and run pretty sweetly on my laptop. Highly recommended :)
 

Evil_Mush

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Yeah saving the files on the computer as well (maybe I'll look for a pack as well to get everything!), but the novelty of being able to play away from home is also rather appealing!
 
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If this hasn't already been posted here, go to ssega.com it has most mega drive games ready for you to play online. Even has links to other consoles like Master System, Super Nes etc. Let's just say I haven't had a very productive day at work this week.
 

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If this hasn't already been posted here, go to ssega.com it has most mega drive games ready for you to play online. Even has links to other consoles like Master System, Super Nes etc. Let's just say I haven't had a very productive day at work this week.

What's the quality like on that website? Is it the same as the console?
 

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I played this game over the weekend.

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I cannot put into words how much I love that game. John and Jack, more likely than not based on Stallone and Arny characters over the years (game made in 1990), play as the 2 protagonists trying to rid the world of a terrorist organisation. The funny thing about this game is that, in coop mode, if a player gets hit 3 times and loses all of his lives, he’ll be reincarnated at the expense of his coop partner :lol: so even though the coop partner hasn’t been hit, one of his hits will be taken automatically and he’ll be down to 2 :lol:.
 
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Love that sort of early 90s video game logic :lol:

Can imagine the thumb gets pretty sure on that master system d-pad though. As much as I love the SMS, that d-pad was a nightmare.

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I've been playing a lot of old ps1 games over the weekend.

This one in particular is very addictive

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Even the animated story intro is wicked. The first one had the cool in-car view screen however Twisted Metal 2 dominates everything else.
 

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Love that sort of early 90s video game logic :lol:

Can imagine the thumb gets pretty sure on that master system d-pad though. As much as I love the SMS, that d-pad was a nightmare.
Really? I actually thought the D-pad on the Master System was done quite well as it was a bit more smoother than the T of the NES as it seemed a but more flatter. Just my 2 cents though. I guess it depends on the gamer. I remember getting blisters on the N64 when I was first learning to use the thumb stick :lol:
 

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I've been playing a lot of old ps1 games over the weekend.

This one in particular is very addictive

Twisted_Metal_2.jpg




Even the animated story intro is wicked. The first one had the cool in-car view screen however Twisted Metal 2 dominates everything else.
I remember I played the first 2nd one on a demo cd I got when I bought the PS Magazine. It was awesome. That game was unbelievable back in the days. A few more vehicular combat video games came out soon after that, most notable the Carmageddon series.
 

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