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GROTD is living proof that the politicians who closed mental hospitals should be dragged out into the street and shot.
I never said Darwin should get a $300m stadium. You created that strawman because that's what you do. I've never seen you respond to what's actually written.How is that in anyway a rebuttal to my statement regarding funding a stadium in 2022?
Darwin and the NT, are not sensible places to invest millions on stadia. There are far more higher priorities
One thing I will agree with you onI never said Darwin should get a $300m stadium. You created that strawman because that's what you do. I've never seen you respond to what's actually written.
A small boutique stadium that costs $24m and allows a Darwin-based team to participate in the Queensland Cup would be great for the game. Plus four or five NRL games could be played there each year.
Will Chambers is from the NT and was a real asset for Queensland.
Imagine a few more champions like him playing for Queensland?
It would be crazy to not do more for NTRL.
I suppose you want the NSW Government to waste $300m on a third rectangular stadium that will be used 10 times a year and draw about 12k on average?
If I say something is white you'll say it's black because you're a troll.
I never said Darwin should get a $300m stadium. You created that strawman because that's what you do. I've never seen you respond to what's actually written.
A small boutique stadium that costs $24m and allows a Darwin-based team to participate in the Queensland Cup would be great for the game. Plus four or five NRL games could be played there each year.
Will Chambers is from the NT and was a real asset for Queensland.
Imagine a few more champions like him playing for Queensland?
It would be crazy to not do more for NTRL.
I suppose you want the NSW Government to waste $300m on a third rectangular stadium that will be used 10 times a year and draw about 12k on average?
If I say something is white you'll say it's black because you're a troll.
How does that make sence? Will chambers born in NT, equals we can make more Queenslanders... its in a different state, they wont qualify if have their own stadia and team..I never said Darwin should get a $300m stadium. You created that strawman because that's what you do. I've never seen you respond to what's actually written.
A small boutique stadium that costs $24m and allows a Darwin-based team to participate in the Queensland Cup would be great for the game. Plus four or five NRL games could be played there each year.
Will Chambers is from the NT and was a real asset for Queensland.
Imagine a few more champions like him playing for Queensland?
It would be crazy to not do more for NTRL.
I suppose you want the NSW Government to waste $300m on a third rectangular stadium that will be used 10 times a year and draw about 12k on average?
If I say something is white you'll say it's black because you're a troll.
But NT is in QLD, no?How does that make sence? Will chambers born in NT, equals we can make more Queenslanders... its in a different state, they wont qualify if have their own stadia and team..
Your random ravings are delusional, the endgame in your discussions are moot
So is Kempsey apparentlyBut NT is in QLD, no?
Was that the pay off for him throwing the GF against them?Will Chambers played his last game in the NRL for Cronulla.
Just sayin
They've already started so wouldnt cost anything like that. Current stadium has 1200 stand, 4 change rooms.The stadia they have now would be fine for QLD Cup.
The minimum cost of even a 15k stadium is about $150 to 200M, and is just not feasible for 4 or 5 games of NRL.
People from the ACT qualify to play for NSW, so what's your point?But NT is in QLD, no?
The minimum cost of even a 15k stadium is about $150 to 200M, and is just not feasible for 4 or 5 games of NRL.
PotatoDo you have any evidence to support your statement or did you pluck it out of your arse?
The Redcliffe Dolphins were able to build a 10k seat stadium for just $24M, with an option to add a southern grandstand to boost capacity up towards 15k in the future.
Today’s unveiling of the third and final stage of Dolphin Stadium completed $24 million stadium means the try line in sight for Moreton Bay Region to secure the NRL’s seventeenth licence.![]()
New $6.5 million Grandstand Sets Dolphins up for NRL Licence
Today’s unveiling of the third and final stage of Dolphin Stadium completed $24 million stadium means the try line in sight for Moreton Bay Region to secure the NRL’s seventeenth licencewww.moretonbay.qld.gov.au
PotatoThis NRL club is turning property developer to wean off pokies
Edmund Tadros
Media and Marketing Reporter
Dec 16, 2022 – 2.56pm
The once-struggling Parramatta Eels club will diversify its income stream away from poker machines by leasing commercial and retail space in a new $65 million rugby league facility.
The move is being made before potential gambling reforms by the NSW government that could drastically cut the income of the Parramatta Leagues Club, which owns the football club.
The Eels’ centre of excellence is being built in the Sydney suburb of Kellyville and will be the largest dedicated rugby league facility in the country, with five playing fields. It is due to be completed in 2024.
“We’ve gone from a significant loss-making enterprise back five or six years ago to a club that has generated profits in excess of $1 million in each of the past three years,” Eels chief executive Jim Sarantinos said.
“This is quite a strong result given the history of the club and given the landscape of rugby league.”
All three levels of government have chipped in to build the new sports centre: $33 million from the NSW government; $15 million from the Commonwealth; more than $10 million from Hills Shire Council; and about $4.5 million from the Eels NRL club.
The club’s new-found success has been on and off the field. The Eels have featured in five of the past six NRL finals series, and made it to this year’s grand final before they were beaten by the Penrith Panthers.
Away from the field, the club’s commercial income is now about $20 million a year, an increase of about 51 per cent from 2019.
Commercial, broadcast income
The club’s commercial income comes mainly from sponsorship, memberships, game-day revenue, merchandise and hospitality.
The Eels NRL club also receives funding via the NRL’s broadcast agreement with Foxtel and Nine, which publishes The Australian Financial Review.
“Thankfully over the past three years, we’ve been able to get ourselves to a position where the football club is profitable in its own right,” Mr Sarantinos said. “So, we’re not dependent on funding from the leagues club for our sustainability.”
The property income from the Kellyville facility will add a third major source of revenue.
The Eels, like many other clubs, had traditionally relied on poker machine income for funding.
But in NSW, Premier Dominic Perrottet is pushing to turn poker machines cashless after the NSW Crime Commission warned they were being used to launder millions of dollars in illegal cash.
The move has generated opposition from clubs and hotels, which rely on poker machine income, and comes less than four months out from the state election.
NSW government data shows that clubs in greater western Sydney house more poker machines and generate more revenue per premise than in other parts of the state.
Parramatta Leagues Club is a major pokie venue, housing about 440 of the approximate 1200 machines in the local government area.
The Eels’ turnaround has been remarkable. In 2016, the Parramatta board was sacked and replaced with an administrator after officials were accused of using inflated invoices to secretly pay players.
By that stage, the Eels already had been fined by the NRL for cheating the salary cap, had competition points deducted and certain officials at the club were deregistered.
The administrators put in place a new structure that allowed the directors of the football club to operate without interference.
NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo, who is negotiating a salary cap with clubs about how much they can spend on players next year, wants each club in the competition to have its own community-based sports centre.
“I think that the Eels leadership, the board, their chairman [Sean McElduff] and CEO [Mr Sarantinos], have done a terrific job. As an NRL club, they have performed well on the field ... and also off the field,” Mr Abdo said.
“Parramatta is in the heartland of Sydney, and all our clubs are community-based clubs and the Eels have done a terrific job of connecting with their community.
“[The Eels’] strategy and mission of diversifying their revenue should be commended.
“Our mission is that every one of our 17 clubs has a fortress, a home stadium, and a centre of excellence for male and female players, boys and girls.
“The Eels centre is an example of a community asset, with community access to green areas and space to play touch, tag and tackle grassroot competitions.”
Clubs that already have centres of excellence include the North Queensland Cowboys, Brisbane Broncos, Wests Tigers, the Panthers and the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles.
The St George Illawarra Dragons, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, South Sydney Rabbitohs and Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks are among the NRL teams at various stages of planning to build their own centres.
Boardroom chicanery
The view that NRL teams should be doing more to diversify away from pokies income is shared by Christopher Brown, chairman and founder of the Western Sydney Leadership Dialogue, a regional not-for-profit think tank.
“They’ve shaken up the governance of the club because of the past chicanery in the boardroom,” Mr Brown, a self-confessed Eels tragic, said.
“There’s been a constant reform agenda under the new management and now it’s about their social licence.
“Western Sydney has been the base of rugby league, but for too long it’s been under the shadow of pokies. Other clubs and the league should also be moving towards a better, more sustainable economic future.”
Non-pokie income
Parramatta Leagues Club is also looking to diversify its revenue away from pokies. The club also has its own construction pipeline, including a $5 million project to create a new dining area. The long-term goal is for the leagues club to be seen more as a premium hospitality venue than a pokies den.
The club has also absorbed smaller clubs that might struggle under any potential reforms to poker machine laws. Nembers of Parramatta Leagues Club will soon vote on a proposal to amalgamate with Dural Country Club.
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This NRL club is turning property developer to wean off pokies
The once-struggling Parramatta Eels NRL club will diversify its income stream away from poker machines by leasing space in its new rugby league facility.www.afr.com
Parramatta are getting a rather favourable deal from the NSW state government. The Eels only had to pay $4.5M to fund their $65M Centre of Excellence because the NSW Government gave them $33M towards the project. The Cowboys only got $5M from the Queensland Government and had to take out a $20M loan from the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility to fund their $40M High Performance and Training Centre. More favouritism for a Sydney club.
With the backing of a robust cost plan, the club secured $5 million in funding from the Queensland Government, $15 million from the federal government, and a $20 million loan from the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility.
I cannot imagine every single Sydney club will be given preferential treatment. This will create a huge divide. The smaller clubs that don't get the handouts will fall away while Parramatta go from strength to strength. It's inevitable that the smaller clubs will be squeezed out of the market. My guess it's being done by design.
Bowraville tooSo is Kempsey apparently
Nah man.... potataPotato
They should have built a smaller one if they cannot make the loan repaymentsThis NRL club is turning property developer to wean off pokies
Edmund Tadros
Media and Marketing Reporter
Dec 16, 2022 – 2.56pm
The once-struggling Parramatta Eels club will diversify its income stream away from poker machines by leasing commercial and retail space in a new $65 million rugby league facility.
The move is being made before potential gambling reforms by the NSW government that could drastically cut the income of the Parramatta Leagues Club, which owns the football club.
The Eels’ centre of excellence is being built in the Sydney suburb of Kellyville and will be the largest dedicated rugby league facility in the country, with five playing fields. It is due to be completed in 2024.
“We’ve gone from a significant loss-making enterprise back five or six years ago to a club that has generated profits in excess of $1 million in each of the past three years,” Eels chief executive Jim Sarantinos said.
“This is quite a strong result given the history of the club and given the landscape of rugby league.”
All three levels of government have chipped in to build the new sports centre: $33 million from the NSW government; $15 million from the Commonwealth; more than $10 million from Hills Shire Council; and about $4.5 million from the Eels NRL club.
The club’s new-found success has been on and off the field. The Eels have featured in five of the past six NRL finals series, and made it to this year’s grand final before they were beaten by the Penrith Panthers.
Away from the field, the club’s commercial income is now about $20 million a year, an increase of about 51 per cent from 2019.
Commercial, broadcast income
The club’s commercial income comes mainly from sponsorship, memberships, game-day revenue, merchandise and hospitality.
The Eels NRL club also receives funding via the NRL’s broadcast agreement with Foxtel and Nine, which publishes The Australian Financial Review.
“Thankfully over the past three years, we’ve been able to get ourselves to a position where the football club is profitable in its own right,” Mr Sarantinos said. “So, we’re not dependent on funding from the leagues club for our sustainability.”
The property income from the Kellyville facility will add a third major source of revenue.
The Eels, like many other clubs, had traditionally relied on poker machine income for funding.
But in NSW, Premier Dominic Perrottet is pushing to turn poker machines cashless after the NSW Crime Commission warned they were being used to launder millions of dollars in illegal cash.
The move has generated opposition from clubs and hotels, which rely on poker machine income, and comes less than four months out from the state election.
NSW government data shows that clubs in greater western Sydney house more poker machines and generate more revenue per premise than in other parts of the state.
Parramatta Leagues Club is a major pokie venue, housing about 440 of the approximate 1200 machines in the local government area.
The Eels’ turnaround has been remarkable. In 2016, the Parramatta board was sacked and replaced with an administrator after officials were accused of using inflated invoices to secretly pay players.
By that stage, the Eels already had been fined by the NRL for cheating the salary cap, had competition points deducted and certain officials at the club were deregistered.
The administrators put in place a new structure that allowed the directors of the football club to operate without interference.
NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo, who is negotiating a salary cap with clubs about how much they can spend on players next year, wants each club in the competition to have its own community-based sports centre.
“I think that the Eels leadership, the board, their chairman [Sean McElduff] and CEO [Mr Sarantinos], have done a terrific job. As an NRL club, they have performed well on the field ... and also off the field,” Mr Abdo said.
“Parramatta is in the heartland of Sydney, and all our clubs are community-based clubs and the Eels have done a terrific job of connecting with their community.
“[The Eels’] strategy and mission of diversifying their revenue should be commended.
“Our mission is that every one of our 17 clubs has a fortress, a home stadium, and a centre of excellence for male and female players, boys and girls.
“The Eels centre is an example of a community asset, with community access to green areas and space to play touch, tag and tackle grassroot competitions.”
Clubs that already have centres of excellence include the North Queensland Cowboys, Brisbane Broncos, Wests Tigers, the Panthers and the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles.
The St George Illawarra Dragons, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, South Sydney Rabbitohs and Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks are among the NRL teams at various stages of planning to build their own centres.
Boardroom chicanery
The view that NRL teams should be doing more to diversify away from pokies income is shared by Christopher Brown, chairman and founder of the Western Sydney Leadership Dialogue, a regional not-for-profit think tank.
“They’ve shaken up the governance of the club because of the past chicanery in the boardroom,” Mr Brown, a self-confessed Eels tragic, said.
“There’s been a constant reform agenda under the new management and now it’s about their social licence.
“Western Sydney has been the base of rugby league, but for too long it’s been under the shadow of pokies. Other clubs and the league should also be moving towards a better, more sustainable economic future.”
Non-pokie income
Parramatta Leagues Club is also looking to diversify its revenue away from pokies. The club also has its own construction pipeline, including a $5 million project to create a new dining area. The long-term goal is for the leagues club to be seen more as a premium hospitality venue than a pokies den.
The club has also absorbed smaller clubs that might struggle under any potential reforms to poker machine laws. Nembers of Parramatta Leagues Club will soon vote on a proposal to amalgamate with Dural Country Club.
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This NRL club is turning property developer to wean off pokies
The once-struggling Parramatta Eels NRL club will diversify its income stream away from poker machines by leasing space in its new rugby league facility.www.afr.com
Parramatta are getting a rather favourable deal from the NSW state government. The Eels only had to pay $4.5M to fund their $65M Centre of Excellence because the NSW Government gave them $33M towards the project. The Cowboys only got $5M from the Queensland Government and had to take out a $20M loan from the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility to fund their $40M High Performance and Training Centre. More favouritism for a Sydney club.
With the backing of a robust cost plan, the club secured $5 million in funding from the Queensland Government, $15 million from the federal government, and a $20 million loan from the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility.
I cannot imagine every single Sydney club will be given preferential treatment. This will create a huge divide. The smaller clubs that don't get the handouts will fall away while Parramatta go from strength to strength. It's inevitable that the smaller clubs will be squeezed out of the market. My guess it's being done by design.
Except the ACT is actually in NSW and if they couldn’t qualify to play for NSW then they couldn’t play any Origin footy. Not much of a stretch really, is it?People from the ACT qualify to play for NSW, so what's your point?
The Australian Capital Territory is separate from the state of NSW. It's a separate jurisdiction just like the Northern Territory with its own laws and government.Except the ACT is actually in NSW and if they couldn’t qualify to play for NSW then they couldn’t play any Origin footy. Not much of a stretch really, is it?