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Ricky Stuart to coach Eels 2013

Penrose Warrior

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Stephen Kearney has every right to be annoyed at his pea-heart players. They know he's going, they get up for it. They previously know he's under scrutiny, they know they can goof and he'll get it.

Having said that, don't want him for the Kiwis haha
 
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Kearney cant coach,but a likeable bloke.
Stuart cant coach & is a whiney bitch.

Spot on.

People have short memories. Stuart took over a succesful Roosters side and turned them to shit. Followed this up by taking over a reasonable Sharks team and turning them into a rabble. To top it off, he took over NSW and hasn't won a series.

His idea of recruitment is to fill his teams with second rowers. Worst coach ever and a whiney little bitch to boot.

Eels would've been better off signing Jason Taylor.
 

Loudstrat

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Point 1. He took a shit roster to the Minor premiership off his wrestling and holding down tactics. They got shit kicked by Melbourne at the pointy end of the season. He took the same roster to the bottom end of the table when the NRL changed rules on him before the start of the season and he couldn't rely on the scummy tactics.
Talk about glass half empty. He took a shit roster to equal first - who cares how?

He is not a shit Coach, but he aint the great some people paint him to be. He is a half back killer, but you blokes cant do any worse there atm.
Any more than f*cking Kearney has killed Sandow?
Pont 2. The club imploded at the CEO level yes, The same wanker we got from, where was it? Great record of administrators from that club.
We have punted that abysmal regime that produced him. Besides, we never made him CEO!
The Board was a basket case well before Ricky was hired. He tried hard to keep things together, but the Bird incident was all too much really.
Which is the main reason I like his appointment. If ever we need a coach who is not going to cop sh*t from the board, it's now. I am under no illusions that he is a wonder coach, but he is a smart person who will not roll over and cop board bullsh*t - he will put pressure back. We havent had that since Gibson.

We have always employed softc*cks. We wanted a culture change. Sticky - if he actually does sign - will bring that.

The advantage you have is that the imploding has happened before you hired him, just hope the front office in on track before he starts or there will be a shit fight on, because he wont stand for any bullshyte frm the Board or CEO.
Exactly

So hayne to Five-Eight or Wing.. Good luck with your lack of Attack and Gameplann for 2013 and beyond parra
Yeah, theres every chance it will get worse. How will we ever cope?

F*ck me people like you are completely brainless.
 

Y2Eel

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Spot on.

People have short memories. Stuart took over a succesful Roosters side and turned them to shit. Followed this up by taking over a reasonable Sharks team and turning them into a rabble. To top it off, he took over NSW and hasn't won a series.

His idea of recruitment is to fill his teams with second rowers. Worst coach ever and a whiney little bitch to boot.

Eels would've been better off signing Jason Taylor.


Have you sen the amount of second rowers we have next season! He will love it!
 

Stagger Lee

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As a dragons supporter I just want to say thank goodness Stuart has gone to the eels ;-)

You are welcome to him
 

Loudstrat

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Spot on.

People have short memories. Stuart took over a succesful Roosters side and turned them to shit.
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Followed this up by taking over a reasonable Sharks team and turning them into a rabble.

Finals Week 1 - Sep 12-14 -


Sat September 13 2008, 6:30PM​
CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND SHARKS 36
Tries (7): Misi Taulapapa 3, Luke Covell, Brett Kearney, Ben Pomeroy, Brett Seymour
Goals (4): Luke Covell (3 from 7), Brett Kimmorley (1 from 1)

CANBERRA RAIDERS 10
Tries (2): Colin Best, Marshall Chalk
Goals (1): Terry Campese (1 from 2)

Venue: Toyota Park, Woolooware, Sydney (NSW)
Crowd: 18,252
Referee: Jarred Maxwell
Halftime score: Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks 14-0

To top it off, he took over NSW and hasn't won a series.
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Got any more pearls of wisdom you f*cking clown???????????
 
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Stuart is a myth. Worst of all he's a destructive myth.

Surely this will be his last NRL appointment.

Kinda makes me happy knowing NSW's next series win won't have him involved.
 
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Finals Week 1 - Sep 12-14 -


Sat September 13 2008, 6:30PM​
CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND SHARKS 36
Tries (7): Misi Taulapapa 3, Luke Covell, Brett Kearney, Ben Pomeroy, Brett Seymour
Goals (4): Luke Covell (3 from 7), Brett Kimmorley (1 from 1)

CANBERRA RAIDERS 10
Tries (2): Colin Best, Marshall Chalk
Goals (1): Terry Campese (1 from 2)

Venue: Toyota Park, Woolooware, Sydney (NSW)
Crowd: 18,252
Referee: Jarred Maxwell
Halftime score: Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks 14-0


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Got any more pearls of wisdom you f*cking clown???????????


2 points.

The roosters circa 2000 to 2004 was built by others , not Stuart.

The NSW win in 2005 was courtesy of one A.Johns


Stuart has never built anything in his coaching career , his time at parra is going to be very interesting.

Personally I'm stunned someone as destructive as him could be trusted to re-build a club.
 

Dogs Of War

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2 points.

The roosters circa 2000 to 2004 was built by others , not Stuart.

Still he had to have done something right to get them to 3 straight grand finals. So he was able to keep the momentum going. Better than some other coaches who have been handed that sort of side, and screwed it up very quickly. Paging Michael Hagan to this thread....

The NSW win in 2005 was courtesy of one A.Johns

So he can only take credit for losses? In that case take all the victories of Meninga as well, he only got them cause he has all star team to coach.

Stuart has never built anything in his coaching career , his time at parra is going to be very interesting.

Personally I'm stunned someone as destructive as him could be trusted to re-build a club.

As a Sharks fan, you must be more than aware that the resources weren't available at the club, and it was expected that everybody do more with less. Not to mention that during that whole period the club looked like going to the wall, not the ideal place to coach at.

As long as Parra doesn't commit to him for too long (max 3 years, better if 2 years, and 1 year option in the clubs favour if he is going well), has to be better than what they currently have.
 
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Still he had to have done something right to get them to 3 straight grand finals. So he was able to keep the momentum going. Better than some other coaches who have been handed that sort of side, and screwed it up very quickly. Paging Michael Hagan to this thread....

I don't doubt Stuart is a great motivator. he is almost the opposite of Brian smith in a way , he's a finisher not a builder that parra need.



So he can only take credit for losses? In that case take all the victories of Meninga as well, he only got them cause he has all star team to coach.

In general I've always felt that origin coaches don't deserve a whole lot of credit or criticism either way. But even more so in 2005 that was Andrew johns brilliance pure and simple.


As a Sharks fan, you must be more than aware that the resources weren't available at the club, and it was expected that everybody do more with less. Not to mention that during that whole period the club looked like going to the wall, not the ideal place to coach at.

As long as Parra doesn't commit to him for too long (max 3 years, better if 2 years, and 1 year option in the clubs favour if he is going well), has to be better than what they currently have.

A sharks fan?! I'm a panthers fan champ , says so right there in my avatar.

Resources at the sharks may have been tight , but last I checked they still are. Shane flannagan has built a much better squad than the famed Ricky Stuart ever will.

And whats his excuse at the roosters then? How with their resources did things fall apart so badly?
 

Dogs Of War

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A sharks fan?! I'm a panthers fan champ , says so right there in my avatar.

I have avatars and signatures turned off.

Resources at the sharks may have been tight , but last I checked they still are. Shane flannagan has built a much better squad than the famed Ricky Stuart ever will.

IMHO Sharks are overachieving this year. But that said, Stuart still got such a crap roster and he was able take it into the finals in the second year, but with no resources available to build on that, he was left between a rock and a hard place, it's not like the Sharks were splashing cash, if anything they were tighting their belts more, and had more dramas than Parra is currently having in the front office, never a good thing for a club.

Flannagan seems to be getting the Sharks at the right time, though he did do worse with the same squad in his first year than Stuart did in his last, with some lucky pieces falling to him (Carney), and the purse strings being opened so he can bring in some of those missing pieces of the puzzle (most of the backline players). Still, Stuart did the same thing (and eerily with the same style of football), can Flannagan do it all again next season, or will he suffer the same fate as Stuart, and start off the season very badly.

And whats his excuse at the roosters then? How with their resources did things fall apart so badly?

Like a lot of coaches, he can be too loyal to players, and refuse to blood those promising junior players when the senior ones are having a pretty bad spell. Thus why I said his contract should be 2 years, with another year option in favour of the club if things are going well. It should be long enough for them to see if he can fix the place, especially if he takes over now and has an opportunity to start tinkering with the lineup, and getting the defence sorted.
 
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Fair enough.

I genuinely believe though that if any coach could make things worse at a struggling club like the eels it's Stuart.

He's not a good fit IMO.

The eels ( much like the panthers) need someone that can be patient and wait for things to build up.


Btw - the sharks recruitment under flannagan has been much more than just carney. Gibbs , de gois , graham and now Lewis & mick Gordon. Pretty handy recruiting and much better than anything Stuart did.
 
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Dogs Of War

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Fair enough.

I genuinely believe though that if any coach could make things worse at a struggling club like the eels it's Stuart.

He's not a good fit IMO.

The eels ( much like the panthers) need someone that can be patient and wait for things to build up.


Btw - the sharks recruitment under flannagan has been much more than just carney. Gibbs , de gois , graham and now Lewis & mick Gordon. Pretty handy recruiting and much better than anything Stuart did.

You see the Sharks finishing 1st or 2nd on the table this year? That's what it would take to be better than anything Stuart did. Not many coaches have got the Sharks to the Preliminary final.

As for recruiting, as I said previously, I think the Sharks were belt tightening at the time, it's no secret that they paid less than any other club in the league for their total squad in that period. I just think it's too easy to have a go at Stuart when not many coaches would succeed in that environment. The fact that he was able to get the club to one final series in that time is pretty good given all that.
 

aads

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I would be so pissed off if my team up and beat the storm on the week i left an underachieved the rest of the year - that place needs a clean out more than anywhere - i dont like to say it - but starting at their fullback - he is their best player but his attitude stinks and it goes across to the rest of the team who think they can play like him by simply turning up.

i would rather have a team of workers than 1 superstar.

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