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Ricky Stuart to coach Eels 2013

Raider_69

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Your club has apparently had an offer on the table for him for a few weeks now. And according to a very reliable poster in the Eels forum, our offer is less money that what you guys have offered.

I think your very reliable poster probably got sucked in like a lot of people (myself included)
 

Loudstrat

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2 points.

The roosters circa 2000 to 2004 was built by others , not Stuart.
Stupid argument that could be said about any premiership winning coach. Warren Ryan won at Canterbury off the work of Ted Glossop. Tim Sheens won comps at Canberra off the work of Don Furner. Jack Gibson won 3 straight off the work of Terry Fearnley.

The point is, as Brian Smith knows, is that you can have all the cards in your favour, make a GF, and lose. Sticky didnt. He also kept the Roosters in 3 straight deciders.

The NSW win in 2005 was courtesy of one A.Johns
And that proves Sticky cant coach? You know what won Origin? A sh&t refs call in Melbourne and a last minute field goal in Brisbane.


Stuart has never built anything in his coaching career , his time at parra is going to be very interesting.
It could be said that he built the Sharks up for Flanagan.

Personally I'm stunned someone as destructive as him could be trusted to re-build a club.
He wont be rebuilding a club. He is rebuilding a first grade team. The lower grades are fine thanks to SK.

Raiders didn't want him idiot. The board has backed Furner the whole way, no one has approached Stuart from the Raiders. I would be surprised if the Roosters wanted him as well after they sacked him once before. Stop believing everything that dribbler Slothfield says.
Rothfield aint the source. Canberra have chased Sticky hard and you know it.
 

bartman

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After the ineptitude of the Kearney years, we really need a coach with experience that can motivate, develop and get the best consistently out of their senior players.

Ricky (or whoever really), come on down!
 
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Stupid argument that could be said about any premiership winning coach. Warren Ryan won at Canterbury off the work of Ted Glossop. Tim Sheens won comps at Canberra off the work of Don Furner. Jack Gibson won 3 straight off the work of Terry Fearnley.

The point is, as Brian Smith knows, is that you can have all the cards in your favour, make a GF, and lose. Sticky didnt. He also kept the Roosters in 3 straight deciders.

Rubbish.

It can't be said about Des Hasler , John Lang or Steve folks to name a few.

Plenty ( if not most) FG premiership coaches have built their team.

And that proves Sticky cant coach? You know what won Origin? A sh&t refs call in Melbourne and a last minute field goal in Brisbane.

Not at all. But as I also said origin wins or losses don't count either way towards club abilities IMO.


It could be said that he built the Sharks up for Flanagan.

I very much doubt that.

Most of the quality players in the FG team have been signed under flanagans watch.

Gibbs , fifita , de gois , j.smith , carney and now also Lewis and Gordon.


He wont be rebuilding a club. He is rebuilding a first grade team. The lower grades are fine thanks to SK.

I meant FG team and still he has no record of building a FG team on his own.

In fact he has more of a record of tearing them apart.

Honestly I can't see how someone like Stuart could be entrusted to re-build a team.
 

aads

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How do you know it stinks? ( dont bring up the manly match he went shopping either)

Well for one thing no need to emphasise someone elses point they re or are not in your retort.

You question my mentioning the player's attitude



-five coaches in seven years -

-A different board

- A coach who stuk up for them even when they underperformed

- A great roster - Sandow, Willie Tonga, Hindmarsh, Tim Mannah a NSW forward, and do not forget the Hayne Plane! They all have their detractors but you would like any of them in your own team.

BUT - Still horrid results - so who is to blame ? I say it IS the attitude of some of the players who just think it will all go their way if they turn up. Some players i am sure are trying their heart out - their captain being one of the best week in week out -

The other guys are waiting for someone else to win it for them, not to themselves and their own responsibilities

It is the players here who are deciding the results - not the five coaches or board members

Thats it for me

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Y2Eel

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Rubbish.

It can't be said about Des Hasler , John Lang or Steve folks to name a few.

Plenty ( if not most) FG premiership coaches have built their team.



Not at all. But as I also said origin wins or losses don't count either way towards club abilities IMO.




I very much doubt that.

Most of the quality players in the FG team have been signed under flanagans watch.

Gibbs , fifita , de gois , j.smith , carney and now also Lewis and Gordon.




I meant FG team and still he has no record of building a FG team on his own.

In fact he has more of a record of tearing them apart.

Honestly I can't see how someone like Stuart could be entrusted to re-build a team.


John Lang was given the penrith team built by Royce.. Took them to a gf then should have again in 04 after that penrith sucked..
 

Y2Eel

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Well for one thing no need to emphasise someone elses point they re or are not in your retort.

You question my mentioning the player's attitude



-five coaches in seven years -

-A different board

- A coach who stuk up for them even when they underperformed

- A great roster - Sandow, Willie Tonga, Hindmarsh, Tim Mannah a NSW forward, and do not forget the Hayne Plane! They all have their detractors but you would like any of them in your own team.

BUT - Still horrid results - so who is to blame ? I say it IS the attitude of some of the players who just think it will all go their way if they turn up. Some players i am sure are trying their heart out - their captain being one of the best week in week out -

The other guys are waiting for someone else to win it for them, not to themselves and their own responsibilities

It is the players here who are deciding the results - not the five coaches or board members

Thats it for me

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You mentioned Hayne not everyone else how do you know he has a bad attitude?

The team only wins when he plays or if he is playing well maybe it's other players around him that should be putting their hand up
 
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John Lang was given the penrith team built by Royce.. Took them to a gf then should have again in 04 after that penrith sucked..


Rubbish.

9 of the 17 players in the 2003 GF debuted under Lang.

He brought preston campbell, Luke Priddis , Paul whatuira , Martin Lang and Ben Ross to the club.
 

Y2Eel

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Rubbish.

9 of the 17 players in the 2003 GF debuted under Lang.

He brought preston campbell, Luke Priddis , Paul whatuira , Martin Lang and Ben Ross to the club.

So he brought an in unwanted Campbell his son from cronulla and brought up juniors that Royce brought through the system....

Btw I love John Lang as a coach but you go on about Ricky but you can say same for Lang
 

BranVan3000

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Lewis would have been a perfect signing for Eels. With or without Stuart, they lose so much without Hindmarsh. Who is the leader in the team? Where is the grunt and work going to come from? Probably the softest team in the comp on paper going into 2013, Ricky has a lot of recruiting to do. If I were Ricky be going for someone like Michael Crocker, a proven leader on and off the field with a few years still left in the tank
 
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So he brought an in unwanted Campbell his son from cronulla and brought up juniors that Royce brought through the system....

Btw I love John Lang as a coach but you go on about Ricky but you can say same for Lang

You're kidding yourself.

Preston being unwanted is beside the point.

fact is priddis and campbell in particular totally changed our team. Im not saying royce doesnt deserve some credit but that was John Langs team all the way.

5 of the 17 GF team came after royce. 2 of them out of the 4 key positions.

Another 4 made their debut under Lang and for all we know may never got there under royce. Royce is a club legend , but he's not even a coaches ars*hole.

Lang took a team that was last in 2001 ( royce's last year) to premiers in 2003. He also had an excellent record at cronulla ( almost a (60% win rate)

Lang is nothing like stuart , he was actually successful in building his teams up.
 
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Lewis would have been a perfect signing for Eels. With or without Stuart, they lose so much without Hindmarsh. Who is the leader in the team? Where is the grunt and work going to come from? Probably the softest team in the comp on paper going into 2013, Ricky has a lot of recruiting to do. If I were Ricky be going for someone like Michael Crocker, a proven leader on and off the field with a few years still left in the tank


Disagree on lewis.

Lewis is a final piece of the puzzle type player. He's a great player dont get me wrong , but parra are better off with their money going elsewhere.
 

Grapple

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lest we forget those who came before...

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BunniesMan

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Ricky had 4 seasons at Cronulla to get a decent side together and did shit all.

Then after that he's got lots of respect for losing a 2 team comp twice in a row.

They won't be out of the bottom 4 next year.

Don't forget, this bloke was available 3 years ago when they got Kearney. Why didn't they get him then if now they're describing him as the best thing at the club since Gibson?
 

Kilkenny

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The Eels treatment of Daniel Anderson was very poor of that there can be no doubt.

I feel sorry for Stephen Kearney but he had to go.

Ricky Stuart is the right man for the job as long as he is given some time and miracles are not expected overnight.

The Eels have some serious gaps in there playing roster which are gonna take time to fix.

While the Eels are our closest rivals I always respect there strong supporter base even during the tough times and there supporters deserve success.
 

sharko

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The Eels treatment of Daniel Anderson was very poor of that there can be no doubt.

I feel sorry for Stephen Kearney but he had to go.

Ricky Stuart is the right man for the job as long as he is given some time and miracles are not expected overnight.

The Eels have some serious gaps in there playing roster which are gonna take time to fix.

While the Eels are our closest rivals I always respect there strong supporter base even during the tough times and there supporters deserve success.

Strong supporter base my arse, they pulled near 8 thousand last home game, they are fair weather supporters, when Sturat realises the crooks and morons he is dealing with on the Parra board and legaues club he will last 18 months max.
Stuart thinks the suns shines out of his own date, he always has, when a couple of cricket scores are posted on them early next year watch him deflect the blame everywhere but his own doorstep.
At least Kearney took it like man, something the Els board members could learn from!
 

Someone

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just remember when the dog was down you all kicked it.

when success comes it'll be a big 'f**k you' heading in all of your directions.
 

Dread

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Well, good luck to Parra. You've signed a man who somehow has perpetuated the myth that he's a good coach despite a record of consistent failure since 2003.

The strangest thing is the claim that he attracts great players. As Sharks coach, he attracted Trent Barrett, Anthony Tupou (on 400k), Corey Hughes, Adam Cuthbertson and Karl Filiga. Compare that to the signatures achieved by our comparatively inexperienced coach.
 
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