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Ricky Stuart

Twizzle

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Bag Bellamy but he sure as heck wouldn't be paying Sandow 650K, lets not mention Roberts either. That is a million dollars of your cap on two NSW Cup Standard halves.

Surely the coach must take some fault. To make things WORSE...he continues to pick them!:crazy:

here's $10, go buy a clue

they are not on anywhere near that
 

butchmcdick

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As far as SOO goes - how well did Bellamy do in his three years? Three series defeats including the only whitewash in over 10 years. Who had the far superior sides during those years? QLD. You can't give any coach the quality of roster the Eels have this year and expect them to be competitive. I don't care how good you are.

If there record is similar why is Ricky rated so highly as nsw coach compared to Bellamy ?
 

Eelementary

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Biggest problem with our squad is their attitude - they give up the moment things start going downhill.

We need a sports psychologist, not a coach.
 

Tooooks

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Bag Bellamy but he sure as heck wouldn't be paying Sandow 650K, lets not mention Roberts either. That is a million dollars of your cap on two NSW Cup Standard halves.

Surely the coach must take some fault. To make things WORSE...he continues to pick them!:crazy:

The stupidity is strong in this one:

1) I wasn't bagging Bellamy as a coach; I was pointing out the hypocrisy in saying Stuart is a shit coach when one of the best coaches in the game has a worse origin record.
3) Sandow was not paid anywhere near 650k. If you think he's shit, you are clueless. He has been very good this year. Bennett also rates him, but what would he know?
4) Roberts wasn't paid anywhere near 350k. He was probably paid about half that.

When you know next to nothing about a particular topic, it's probably best to remain silent rather than, you know, look like an imbecile.
 

Joely01

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Bag Bellamy but he sure as heck wouldn't be paying Sandow 650K, lets not mention Roberts either. That is a million dollars of your cap on two NSW Cup Standard halves.

Surely the coach must take some fault. To make things WORSE...he continues to pick them!:crazy:

Do you actually watch the game? Ill take it as a no.

Sandow has been one of our best this year, he has been really one of only 2 players actually looking half dangerous for our team, to say he shouldn't be playing first grade is laughable.

Do yourself a favour and actually watch a few games before making a comment.
 

Tooooks

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If there record is similar why is Ricky rated so highly as nsw coach compared to Bellamy ?

"Their" record is not similar because Bellamy hasn't won a series. He lost a series 3-0 and the team was not as competitive under him as they had been under Stuart (their four losses in the last two years were by 4, 10, 8, 1). Despite QLD having the best halves, centres, hooker, fullback in the game, the games were competitive.

Again, I'm not bagging Bellamy. I'm also not saying Stuart is as good a coach as Bellamy. The point was that despite being one of the best coaches in the game, Bellamy failed at Origin. Doesn't make him a bad coach. Yet halfwits will point out Stuart's failure to win a series in the last two years as a sign that he is a bad coach. See what I'm getting at here?

No coach - doesn't matter whether it's Bellamy, Bennett, Hasler, or bloody Jack Gibson - can get great results from a playing group who just aren't up to first grade standard. Let's judge him in another couple of years and see how he's doing then.
 

Billythekid

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I can't believe people still use the BS excuse that Stuart won a SOO series. Did you happen to catch something else significant about that series? It was the last one Johns played. Ever since then NSW have been fielding the most pathetic halves you could ever find.

2006 was also the first year that Inglis came through. NSW haven't won since 2005 because we still haven't found decent a decent half and because of the rise of Smith/Thurston/Inglis and co.

I still think that origin coaches and the impact they have are in many ways over rated. Especially the praise heaped on Meninga, frankly with the team he has had i don't think they even needed a coach to be this dominant (it has been a damn miracle that NSW don't get blown out every year).

Not sure what origin records have to do with club level anyway. It's a completely different ball game and a much worse way to judge a coaches ability.
 
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Eels Dude

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I can't believe people still use the BS excuse that Stuart won a SOO series. Did you happen to catch something else significant about that series? It was the last one Johns played. Ever since then NSW have been fielding the most pathetic halves you could ever find.

2006 was also the first year that Inglis came through. NSW haven't won since 2005 because we still haven't found decent a decent half and because of the rise of Smith/Thurston/Inglis and co.

I still think that origin coaches and the impact they have are in many ways over rated. Especially the praise heaped on Meninga, frankly with the team he has had i don't think they even needed a coach to be this dominant (it has been a damn miracle that NSW don't get blown out every year).

Not sure what origin records have to do with club level anyway. It's a completely different ball game and a much worse way to judge a coaches ability.

You're missing the point. People keep pointing out that Stuart did nothing with the NSW origin side, losing both the series he's coached them. But they forget the fact he won a series with NSW back in 2005 too.

It's the same with his club coaching. People point out he left the Roosters in a bad condition yet conveniently forget he won them a premiership and got them to 3 straight grand finals prior.

And they also say he left the Sharks in a rabble. Yet they conveniently forget the Sharks were a rabble when he took over and he somehow got them to finish on equal competition points with Melbourne and Manly in '08 and a preliminary final with a much inferior squad.
 

Sphagnum

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There was a rumour on Triple M this morning that Stuart is starting to lose the board already and someone is concerned that he is unable to attract players to the club. Rumblings got alot louder after Monday night's loss.
 

Matchball

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There was a rumour on Triple M this morning that Stuart is starting to lose the board already and someone is concerned that he is unable to attract players to the club. Rumblings got alot louder after Monday night's loss.

They are always wrong but I'd love to see him fired.
 

StGeorgeBull

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You'd think they're paying him a lot more than NSW.

It will be amusing if he is sacked. How many sacked coaches in a row will that be for Parra?

Also, for all the criticism Kearney copped Supercoach Stuart is doing just as badly with a similar squad.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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There was a rumour on Triple M this morning that Stuart is starting to lose the board already and someone is concerned that he is unable to attract players to the club. Rumblings got alot louder after Monday night's loss.

f**k that would crack me up.

Not being vindictive to Ricky at all - but if your board really were losing him after 7 rounds then your club might as well die.

I think Stuart is a hack, but its been the last 7 years that have f**ked Parra, not the current coach.

The appointment of Hagan in 2006 is an all time f**k up. Parra were a strong club then, but they've played like millionaires ever since with no justification whatsoever.

Stuart is what they need at the moment. Wayne Bennett & Jack Gibsons DNA enhanced test tube baby couldn't coach Parra to anything approaching respectability at the moment. You put as much glitter on a turd as you like, but its still 99% shit.
 

natheel

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Ando was a step in the right direction. And I think Stuart is a good step for the obvious clean out we need. He won't be afraid to step on anyone's toes and make the hard decisions. When the team is in a better place I can see someone like dean pay becoming the coach
 
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For me the major issue with Stuart at the eels his inability to attract talent.


Things went pear shaped at the roosters when the squad that was built by Gould and Murray started to fall apart.

I remember there being talk when he was appointed sharks coach that he would attract talent because he was the kangaroos coach.


He's never re-built a squad like is needed at the eels. I doubt he can do it , just doesn't have the right temperament for the time it will take.
 

big hit!

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What an absolute basket case that joint is at the mo. Their recruiting strategy is farkin laughable. You just know the joint is directed by mig mogs who have no clue when their priorities and $$$ are invested in wingers who will not have played for a couple seasons, and another one who luckily slipped through their fingers because of NRL red tape. I can't believe anyone in the NRL game needs to be told, but this is rugby league. The blokes who touch the ball the most and make the most tackles are your priority.

Who gets the blame for their recruitment? the past coaches or the football manager, whoever that doofus is?

Stuart has inherited a lemon. More fool to him for thinking that all they needed was him as coach to become competitive.
 

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