RL independence day arrives - NRL Independent Commission announced

[eozsmiles]

Wayne probably brings a different perspective as he is the most recent player, has coached, and has a son that plays. His business or admin experience is dwarfed by his colleagues, but I'm sure Wayne is the most likely of the group to watch a game of footy and will have the best perspective on how players and coaches (and maybe even parents) see various issues in the game.

Maybe that is why they picked him. Coud be worse, they could've picked Wendall.

 

[Flapper]

Please make it happen Mr Grant

I'll provide the hat, you can pass it around.

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

You'd like that would you? How many CRL juniors in the Dragqueens squad? Actually it would be easier to count how many aren't CRL juniors.

Look, you're obviously very closely associated with the CRL. I'm a CRL junior (whatever the f**k thats worth) and a former committee member on my local club.

I appreciate volunteers who do what they do for the love of the game, but the CRL, like all of the archaic institutions, is a Blazer Boys Club.

The CRL has NOUGHT to do with getting these kids to the NRL. Nought. Its just a badge and a governing body for a product that sells itself.

Local Clubs are responsible. And what the f**k do local clubs get from the CRL? Huh? The "honor" of wearing the CRL crest on their jumpers.

The best conditions I ever experienced as a player or board member were in 1997 when I was playing in Canberra.

Ground passes and insurance all covered by Super League and a substantial grant to the clubs meant a player injured could be compensated for lost time at work.

Sound familiar? What the f**k did the CRL ever do for anyone, except trot around and slap the backs of the other blazer wearers?

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Wayne probably brings a different perspective as he is the most recent player, has coached, and has a son that plays. His business or admin experience is dwarfed by his colleagues, but I'm sure Wayne is the most likely of the group to watch a game of footy and will have the best perspective on how players and coaches (and maybe even parents) see various issues in the game.

Maybe that is why they picked him. Coud be worse, they could've picked Wendall.

Fair enough mate. I can see where you're coming from, but that perspective is the exact reason League admin has floundered for years. Too many Rugby League people involved.

I'm sure he'll add value, but I hope he isn't just saying shit for the sake of saying shit at board meetings. Now, I'm not insinuating Junior is dumb or anything like that and he's very eloquent and has always presented himself in a good light, but he's in there with serious people from the private sector and I fear a lot of it might go straight over his head.

Anyway. Good luck to Junior and I hope he does a great job along with the rest of them.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

The NSWRL is a basket case. They can't even run their own game properly in an area the size of one or two CRL Groups, even with the NRL throwing every cent it has into western Sydney. If the same people have anything to do with running the game in the bush where there are far more natural obstacles we're screwed.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Look, you're obviously very closely associated with the CRL. I'm a CRL junior (whatever the f**k thats worth) and a former committee member on my local club.

I appreciate volunteers who do what they do for the love of the game, but the CRL, like all of the archaic institutions, is a Blazer Boys Club.

The CRL has NOUGHT to do with getting these kids to the NRL. Nought. Its just a badge and a governing body for a product that sells itself.

Local Clubs are responsible. And what the f**k do local clubs get from the CRL? Huh? The "honor" of wearing the CRL crest on their jumpers.

The best conditions I ever experienced as a player or board member were in 1997 when I was playing in Canberra.

Ground passes and insurance all covered by Super League and a substantial grant to the clubs meant a player injured could be compensated for lost time at work.

Sound familiar? What the f**k did the CRL ever do for anyone, except trot around and slap the backs of the other blazer wearers?

They run the game better than in Sydney. Even though they have a huge area to cover. And you trot out the same old tired cliches about blazer wearers and so on and then talk the clubs up. The clubs are the Groups and the Groups are the CRL. So the people you slander and the people you praise are the same people. And do you think the NSWRL isn't a boys' club? This stereotypical nonsense only ever gets trotted out against country people, never anyone from Sydney.

And as for Super League, you think they threw a heap of money around for the good of the game? Have you been living under a rock for 15 years. What would have happened if Super League had continued after 1997? What would have happened when the money they threw around to buy a junior structure they didn't have dried up? And what happened after News Ltd didn't need the Canberra RL anymore? They went back to the CRL.

I hear your tired old criticisms all the time, usually from people who wouldn't know the first thing about how things are done, but at the end of the day the game wouldn't exist in the bush without the CRL, they do a better job than the big shots in Sydney and if they were to disappear now the game would go backwards big style.

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

The NSWRL is a basket case. They can't even run their own game properly in an area the size of one or two CRL Groups, even with the NRL throwing every cent it has into western Sydney. If the same people have anything to do with running the game in the bush where there are far more natural obstacles we're screwed.

The ARLC Board now has a mandate of control and are the custodians of the games finances and strategic dircection. Gallop, as CEO, has KPI's to ensure he's carrying out their defined objectives to their satisfaction.

If not, he'll have to show cause.

We've gotta have faith in the new board and structure. The NSWRL is indeed a basket case, run by idiots. But it now exists only in law and has votes for commisioners, along with the clubs. That is all.

They may be the body that ultimately runs country rugby league in NSW, but it will be to the satisfaction of the ARLC board and executive.

The board consults. Then plans. Then executes via the CEO.

I'm confident that under the new structure and with self interest now removed at board level, that the rights steps can now be taken to implement a strategic plan and funding for grass roots footy. Not saying it will be spot on at first, but the freedom to change direction and correct mistakes will now be a lot easier with the power of the factions removed.

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

They run the game better than in Sydney. Even though they have a huge area to cover. And you trot out the same old tired cliches about blazer wearers and so on and then talk the clubs up. The clubs are the Groups and the Groups are the CRL. So the people you slander and the people you praise are the same people. And do you think the NSWRL isn't a boys' club? This stereotypical nonsense only ever gets trotted out against country people, never anyone from Sydney.

And as for Super League, you think they threw a heap of money around for the good of the game? Have you been living under a rock for 15 years. What would have happened if Super League had continued after 1997? What would have happened when the money they threw around to buy a junior structure they didn't have dried up? And what happened after News Ltd didn't need the Canberra RL anymore? They went back to the CRL.

I hear your tired old criticisms all the time, usually from people who wouldn't know the first thing about how things are done, but at the end of the day the game wouldn't exist in the bush without the CRL, they do a better job than the big shots in Sydney and if they were to disappear now the game would go backwards big style.

I'm from the country. I've had the pleasure of David Barnhills Snrs company n various occasions.

I'm not faulting peoples passion or sacrifice, only the way things are done.

You may find my criticisms tired and then tell me I don't know anything. Well, if they're tired criticisms, might there not be some truth in them? And if things were done in another way, do you not think that criticisms would perhaps die down?

RL administration - at all levels - has been an amateur, politicised, incompetent mess run by an old boys network with self interest prevalent.

Thats my story. And its echoed across the game whether you're from the city or the bush.

Thanks for your efforts champ. We all love the game.

But your time has come to pass.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

It doesn't matter what the ARLC or the NSWRL does the game in the bush is run by country people, and that means the CRL. Eight people in Sydney can't run 25-30 senior leagues and even more junior leagues across the state and run development and run rep football etc etc. They can come up with whatever KPIs, funding and directives the like. If country people have no say in what goes on in their own area they just won't be involved and the game loses the people who actually make it happen.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

I'm from the country. I've had the pleasure of David Barnhills Snrs company n various occasions.

I'm not faulting peoples passion or sacrifice, only the way things are done.

You may find my criticisms tired and then tell me I don't know anything. Well, if they're tired criticisms, might there not be some truth in them? And if things were done in another way, do you not think that criticisms would perhaps die down?

RL administration - at all levels - has been an amateur, politicised, incompetent mess run by an old boys network with self interest prevalent.

Thats my story. And its echoed across the game whether you're from the city or the bush.

Thanks for your efforts champ. We all love the game.

But your time has come to pass.

You can get all cocky and patronising if you like, but what will happen when your revolution finds that no game is left to be administered by these geniuses from the city? You can tell the hundreds of people who run the sport in the bush that they are not appreciated and no longer wanted, and then who will run the sport? A board in Sydney? The NSWRL? Good luck. You can't remove democracy from RL any more than you can remove it from society.

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

It doesn't matter what the ARLC or the NSWRL does the game in the bush is run by country people, and that means the CRL. Eight people in Sydney can't run 25-30 senior leagues and even more junior leagues across the state and run development and run rep football etc etc. They can come up with whatever KPIs, funding and directives the like. If country people have no say in what goes on in their own area they just won't be involved and the game loses the people who actually make it happen.

Maybe.

Then again. Maybe a whole new generation of people will become involved.

You think the former, I'll happily go the latter. And be one of those new generation.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

A new generation? f**k me, you are out of touch. You can happily imagine whatever you like, but it will be pure fantasy.

 

[POPEYE]

It'll all be OK now. One governing body and no dinosaurs. Carnivores using up the herbivores will cease.

Then again, maybe the country boys won't have to dodge bullets and they'll get clubs of their own . . . wouldn't that be a turn up

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

A new generation? f**k me, you are out of touch. You can happily imagine whatever you like, but it will be pure fantasy.

Ok.

 

[boxhead]

:lol: There was even Lol@50uff$ to be had at the Independent Commission opening :lol:

 

[Raiderdave]

It doesn't matter what the ARLC or the NSWRL does the game in the bush is run by country people, and that means the CRL. Eight people in Sydney can't run 25-30 senior leagues and even more junior leagues across the state and run development and run rep football etc etc. They can come up with whatever KPIs, funding and directives the like. If country people have no say in what goes on in their own area they just won't be involved and the game loses the people who actually make it happen.

Rubbish

the CRL has been based in Sydney for decades

so much for being a country comp :roll:
& the commissoners aren't going to run league in the bush .. or the metropolitan area .. or QLD

all of these bodies are retained as sub committees to do it for them ... & report back to the ARLC ..
they jsut don't get the final say
& thats a good thing
the CRL couldn't organise a root in a brothel .. fullstop.

 

[Raiderdave]

You can get all cocky and patronising if you like, but what will happen when your revolution finds that no game is left to be administered by these geniuses from the city? You can tell the hundreds of people who run the sport in the bush that they are not appreciated and no longer wanted, and then who will run the sport? A board in Sydney? The NSWRL? Good luck. You can't remove democracy from RL any more than you can remove it from society.

if we lost you as a fan that'd be great for starters
you're just a whining bitch, who knows squat about anything. ;-)

 

[beave]

if we lost you as a fan that'd be great for starters
you're just a whining bitch, who knows squat about anything. ;-)

It's in the bid!!!!!

 

[Loudstrat]

Can someone please explain why the Ground Ownership thread was dumped in here? Ground ownership has nothing to do with the RLC!!!!!

Great work - interesting discussions get lost in page 44 of a super thread.............

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Rubbish

the CRL has been based in Sydney for decades

so much for being a country comp :roll:
& the commissoners aren't going to run league in the bush .. or the metropolitan area .. or QLD

all of these bodies are retained as sub committees to do it for them ... & report back to the ARLC ..
they jsut don't get the final say
& thats a good thing
the CRL couldn't organise a root in a brothel .. fullstop.

No shit it's been based there. That's where the office is. But everyone who works there is from the bush and they asnwer to the Groups that exist in the bush. Are you suggesting they aren't a country comp because the office is at Phillip Street? Are you really that f**king stupid? I bet you wouldn't even know who the CRL executive is, never mind where they are from and who they represent. Yet you tell me I know nothing! And if the CRL is going to be a sub-committee and the CRL can't organise anything, according to you, how is this situation any better? You're contradicting yourself you tard.