RLWC 2017 Americas Qualifiers - LIVE Saturday morning EST

[league13]

What ring ins? Most of these blokes played in the last qualifiers in 2011.

Ring ins or not, if these guys had been in the play offs in 13 when they failed, to be fair I would have tested the guys out playing in Jamaican comp.
As it is nothing would have been lost by doing so.

 

[Evil Homer]

Ring ins or not, if these guys had been in the play offs in 13 when they failed, to be fair I would have tested the guys out playing in Jamaican comp.
As it is nothing would have been lost by doing so.

What are you talking about, they were within 8 points of being already qualified for the World Cup?

Jamaica's squad had 9 players from the domestic competition and 11 who play overseas. If you think the squad should've been 20 players from the local comp then I don't think you yet understand what international sport is or how it works.

 

[Foreign Legion]

so Canada need to win by 7 points to qualify... and they could at least update there website as well

 

[langpark]

so Canada need to win by 7 points to qualify... and they could at least update there website as well

No they don't. Any win is enough.

If they beat the US, they will be on 3 points and the US on 2.

 

[Foreign Legion]

No they don't. Any win is enough.

If they beat the US, they will be on 3 points and the US on 2.

Really?... this shizz just got serious

 

[langpark]

Really?... this shizz just got serious

I wish I'd watched this one, sounds like it was an awesome match.

I hope Canada can put up a good fight against the Americans. But I think the 8 day rest compared to Canada's 4 days will prove critical and the USA will get a comfortable win here. Would love to proven wrong on that though.

 

[deal.with.it]

Was very scrappy. The athletes or there but the coaches need more than a couple of days.
I feel that Canada have a great team that could challenge most 2nd tier teams if they had a 3 month intensive as a team with a pro coach.

 

[deluded pom?]

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Jamaica Draw 18 All in Second Match Of World Cup Qualfiers

Posted by romeocbar in Rugby League News, Slider | 0 comments

Canada staged a remarkable comeback to set up a winner-takes -all match against USA on Saturday, scoring 18 points in the final 17 minutes to eliminate Jamaica from the Firehouse Subs World Cup Qualifiers – Americas, at the Spec Martin Stadium, DeLand, Central Florida.
Jamaica, narrowly beaten by the USA four days before, looked to have pulled off a famous win, Wayne Rettie’s try in the 53rd minute seeming to put the Reggae Warriors back in the qualification mix, but the Wolverines hit back spectacularly, full back Robin Legault crossing for two tries in three minutes in an astonishing climax.
There was more drama at the last, when Canadian scrum half and co-captain, Steve Piatek – who had landed an equalising conversion from the touchline to Legault’s second try, missed with a final second drop goal attempt.
“I’m proud of the performance from the team,” said shattered Jamaica head coach Romeo Monteith. “There’s no shame in losing to the world number 10 by six points and drawing with the world number 12 in these qualifiers. We tried our best and I wish we could have held on at the end but it wasn’t to be and we have to move on.
“Canada had more urgency towards the end. They had one particularly dangerous play, turning the ball inside from the play the ball to the full back that kept opening up our middle. We needed more discipline there; we were calling for the team to be tighter around that area but we weren’t.”
Monteith brought Hamish Barnes into the starting line up and his side made the perfect start despite backing up, catching the Canadians cold in dewy conditions that led to frequent dropped ball, although some of the defence was spectacular.
Lamont Bryan opened the scoring in the 21st minute, barrelling over from close in, Joel Farrell converting and, five minutes later, the Jamaican lead was doubled, crisp passing seeing Corey Hanson and Richie Barnett combining to send in winger Alex Brown for a lovely score, Farrell wide with the conversion.
Farrell landed a penalty that extended the lead to 12 points and, into the second half, his cross-field kick was snapped up by Rettie who went over, Farrell with the extras.
Jamaica substitute Tyrone Rowe was sinbinned just after the hour and that was the catalyst for the Canadian comeback, tricky Ryley Jacks crossing on the next set and Piatek on target with the boot.
Farrell missed another penalty and that gave the Wolverines a second life line, Legault’s raids from the back making the most of the opportunity, his second score coming on the end of a sweeping move that saw him go over in the corner, Piatek holding his nerve with the conversion.
Aaron Zimmerle, in his first game in charge of Canada, said: “Calling our performance mixed would be a good description. There were a couple of sets where we were as professional as it’s possible to be – our first of the game saw us go 92 metres, finish with a kick to the corner and it looked like we were in for a good day, but then there were others where we knocked on cold off a scrum.
“A lot of that comes with continuity and through fatigue. It was Jamaica’s second game and they played a lot better than they did against the USA. They completed more, they seemed to play to their strengths, using their speed and agility, whether coming out of dummy half or shifting to the edges, but the character the players showed to come back from 18-0 and to almost conjure a drop goal in the last minute is a great credit to the boys.”
CANADA 18
Robin Legault, Billy Gemmell, Jonathan Cregg, Rick Schouten, Adam Timler, Ryley Jacks, Steve Piatek, Louis Robinson, Rhys Jacks, Tom Dempsey, Christian Miller, Steve Bouchard, James Kelly
Subs (all used): Matt Wyles, Enoch Wamalwa, Antoine Blanc, Alex Boyd
Tries: Ryley Jacks (63), Legault (76,79)
Goals: Piatek 3/3.
JAMAICA 18
Wayne Rettie, Alex Brown, Richie Barnett, Hamish Barnes, Omari Caro, Joel Farrell, Corey Hanson, Nathan Campbell, Marvin Thompson, Ross Peltier, Jermaine Pinnock, Mo Agoro, Lamont Bryan
Subs (all used): Joe Brown, Tyrone Rowe, Renaldo Wade, Brian Hutchinson
Tries: Bryan (21), Brown (26), Rettie (57)
Goals: Farrell (3/5)
Sin bin: Rowe (63)
Half time: 0-12
Referee: Robert Hicks

 

[Foreign Legion]

sounds like if Jamaica had played some warm up matches they would be playing in the world cup by now.

 

[gyallop]

What ring ins? Most of these blokes played in the last qualifiers in 2011.

By my count they had 6 from 2011 v USA and 7 from 2011 v Canada. In the squad 9 were from the domestic comp which was outstanding.

 

[adamkungl]

Was very scrappy. The athletes or there but the coaches need more than a couple of days.
I feel that Canada have a great team that could challenge most 2nd tier teams if they had a 3 month intensive as a team with a pro coach.

Scrappy but a lot more expansive than game 1. Enjoyable game to watch. Last one should be a cracker with qualification on the line. USA will come prepared.

I also think they should be training under a top coach for more than a week, I expect cost has something to do with it?

 

[kiwileaguefan]

By my count they had 6 from 2011 v USA and 7 from 2011 v Canada. In the squad 9 were from the domestic comp which was outstanding.

How good has the development of Jamaica and Canada been over the past 3-4 years? Its an amazing achievement what both nations have achieved in such a short period.

Sadly, it appears at this stage both nations will miss out on a RLWC spot. Yet we will have nations like Ireland, Scotland, and Italy making it through - even though they are way behind in development - and will make it through with teams full of heritage players.

There has to be a change in criteria to be eligible for RLWC qualifiers. I would be extremely interested to hear how much Scotland, Ireland and Italy have progressed domestically since the last RLWC.

 

[paulmac]

One thing that hasn't been brought up was the fact that Jamaica missed a penalty at 18-0. One reason they may have missed was because the match was played with Gridiron posts and they were over the dead ball line.Means the distance was an extra 10-12 metres.

 

[gyallop]

One thing that hasn't been brought up was the fact that Jamaica missed a penalty at 18-0. One reason they may have missed was because the match was played with Gridiron posts and they were over the dead ball line.Means the distance was an extra 10-12 metres.

Wouldnt they have advanced the position by 10m?

 

[adamkungl]

So who are we going for?

Canada have seemingly come from nowhere, great strides in development in a very short time period, and pretty much everyone likes Canadians. A Canada appearance in the World Cup would be seen as a legitimate expansion of Rugby League.

US are the incumbents. They've had their dramas domestically but seem to be back on track, a better set up than when they last qualified and high hopes for the future. The USA is the dream frontier for any emerging sport - a second consecutive World Cup appearance and an improvement on their last finish could be a big boost to their progress.

 

[Pommy]

So who are we going for?

Canada have seemingly come from nowhere, great strides in development in a very short time period, and pretty much everyone likes Canadians. A Canada appearance in the World Cup would be seen as a legitimate expansion of Rugby League.

US are the incumbents. They've had their dramas domestically but seem to be back on track, a better set up than when they last qualified and high hopes for the future. The USA is the dream frontier for any emerging sport - a second consecutive World Cup appearance and an improvement on their last finish could be a big boost to their progress.

Canada because they're not Americans lol (yes i understand they technically are)
Not that I hate Americans just that they're good at plenty of sports and I would rather see Canada do well.

 

[siv]

So who are we going for?

Canada have seemingly come from nowhere, great strides in development in a very short time period, and pretty much everyone likes Canadians. A Canada appearance in the World Cup would be seen as a legitimate expansion of Rugby League.

US are the incumbents. They've had their dramas domestically but seem to be back on track, a better set up than when they last qualified and high hopes for the future. The USA is the dream frontier for any emerging sport - a second consecutive World Cup appearance and an improvement on their last finish could be a big boost to their progress.

Its good to see they have built upon their U18s RLWC 9s semi final appearance

 

[Big Picture]

So who are we going for?

Canada have seemingly come from nowhere, great strides in development in a very short time period, and pretty much everyone likes Canadians. A Canada appearance in the World Cup would be seen as a legitimate expansion of Rugby League.

US are the incumbents. They've had their dramas domestically but seem to be back on track, a better set up than when they last qualified and high hopes for the future. The USA is the dream frontier for any emerging sport - a second consecutive World Cup appearance and an improvement on their last finish could be a big boost to their progress.

As a Canadian who got into RL because of the strong parallels with the uniquely Canadian sport to which Earl Grey gave the Grey Cup in 1909 ? RL is is to all intents and purposes an improved version of that Canadian form of rugby football ? I say Go Wolverines go!!!!!!!!

I would like nothing more than to see Canada be the American champions ? "the Americas" are parts of America just as the Carolinas are parts of Carolina, the Koreas parts of Korea, etc. ? and represent the continent of America at the World Cup.

 

[spinnerhowland]

One thing that hasn't been brought up was the fact that Jamaica missed a penalty at 18-0. One reason they may have missed was because the match was played with Gridiron posts and they were over the dead ball line.Means the distance was an extra 10-12 metres.

In goals are 20 feet = 6.1 meters. The minimum allowed for an international Rugby League game.
Goal posts are the same width, height as RL posts. They are on the deadball line, and this was discussed with all teams thru the Game Officials meeting.
The TRY LINE has been colored Bright BLUE to give a visual "trigger" so players are not running over the deadball line to score or defending the deadball line. We have had ZERO issues with this set up.

Goal Posts on the Deadball line are within the international rules of RL.

 

[miguel de cervantes]

Goal Posts on the Deadball line are within the international rules of RL.

I find this quite incredible. Unless the rules were left vague specifically for this case.