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RLWC 2017 Americas Qualifiers - LIVE Saturday morning EST

gyallop

Juniors
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I find this quite incredible. Unless the rules were left vague specifically for this case.

Of course they are not within the rules. The international rules state they must be on the goal line.

Common sense dictates that the teams can agree otherwise but that doesn't mean the rules say the goal posts can be on the dead ball line.
 

spinnerhowland

Juniors
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I find this quite incredible. Unless the rules were left vague specifically for this case.

There are actually quiet a number of rules differences between NRL, Superleague, some Lower Grade Competitions AND the International Rules of Rugby League. I am not sure if there was "foresight" when they were written, but it makes sense that some "tolerances" will always be needed if the game is to expand globally.

All rules changes, differences, etc. were explained to all teams upon arrival in Jacksonville, by the Game Official and Tournament Director. Field changes (Goal Posts and TRY LINE Color) were also explained in detail to all teams.

All aspects of all fields, game and practice, meet international Rugby League Rules and Guidelines.

I have said it a million times, if Rugby League truly wants to be a global sport, and develop a grass roots infrastructure in more countries than they currently do, it is going to have to allow the use of the guidelines that are set in the international rules of the game.

Yes there are minimum standards that must be met, and all of those have been exceeded for this event. But in a LOT of countries, the development of the sport often falls on available venues, and to restrict options by forcing "Exact NRL (ish) dimensions and other field items, would literally see games not played.

And just so there is not confusion, again, all fields, game and practice, along with the rules under which the games are played, every part of the events for these qualifiers exceed the minimum allowed for international play of Rugby League.

And although the field at Hodges Stadium is 70 yards wide (64 meters) even I was surprised to learn that the minimum allowed for International games is actually only 55 meters.
 

spinnerhowland

Juniors
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Of course they are not within the rules. The international rules state they must be on the goal line.

Common sense dictates that the teams can agree otherwise but that doesn't mean the rules say the goal posts can be on the dead ball line.

The rules under which International Rugby League Games are played, state GP dimensions (height/width/etc) but do not specifically state they need to be on the goal line. Even I was surprised to learn this over the last 6 months. They make reference to rules surrounding the GP's in other parts of the rules as well. But at not stage do they specifically state they need to be on the goal line.

I was also surprised that the field can be a narrow as 55 meters, and only 88 meters from Goal Line to Goal Line. (Which is NOT the case used in any of the fields for this event)

And, as you stated above, all teams where aware of the fields prior to any play taking place, and a meeting was held with the teams with the Game Officials and the Tournament Director.
 

deluded pom?

Coach
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I remember in the 1970s New Hunslet (now Hunslet) using American Football type posts i.e. Y shaped rather than H shaped, and being told that they had to replace them with H shaped posts. I'm not sure if this rule is still in place.
 

gyallop

Juniors
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551
The International Laws of the game from the QRL https://www.qrl.com.au/content/dam/...ules-game-laws&model-rules/ARL-Rules-2014.pdf and RFL http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/official_laws web sites.

Spinner is correct, the Laws do not specifically require that the goalposts be on the goal line although the field plan does show them located there. And gridiron-style goalposts are permissible provided they are the correct dimensions.

If you have a closer look you will see that it is stated that the field plan is part of the Rules so the goal posts are intended to be on the goal line but great to see common sense prevailing... but surely penalty kicks would have been advanced???
 

miguel de cervantes

First Grade
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If you have a closer look you will see that it is stated that the field plan is part of the Rules so the goal posts are intended to be on the goal line but great to see common sense prevailing... but surely penalty kicks would have been advanced???

perhaps, but what if the penalty falls short or bounces off the posts? Do the defenders get their 10m back?
 

yakstorm

First Grade
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Whilst the scenario of having goal posts inline with the deadball line versus goal line is not ideal, surely the fact that both competing teams had to deal with the same conditions and both agreed to play on the field surely should be enough for us to all move on.

Rugby League has many times in the past being played on a less than ideal field (ideal being 100m goal line to goal line, correct width, correct ingoals, correct posts) and as we expand as a sport this will occur more often.

Concessions need to be made to allow the sport to grow in the hope one day places in Florida will have a big enough RL supporter and playing base that it will have purpose built RL fields.
 

paulmac

Juniors
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Canada up 18-14 at half time.Best game of tournament so far quality wise. Canada's try on the bell was a cracker.
 

miguel de cervantes

First Grade
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