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I knew the figures from this bloke were bullshit. Unfortunately.
It's almost like something happened around 1980 that started to take all the focus off the national team and onto something else.
The Kangaroos were not a brand back in the 70's unless they were oversees. I don't recall thinking of the Australian League team as the Kangaroos when I went to watch them at the SCG. They were the Australian League team. Unfortunately by the 70's it was the general opinion that the best league was the NSW competition and even playing QLD was not considered a real challenge. In essence the state of the game outside the NSW comp was considered below par. Lack of real competition was the reason for the decline in value of international League. Sad but true. Other nations did not develop their game and we did. Even today we have first choice English and NZ players out her because they cannot get the level of competition they need to develop their game if they stay home.
Was after the super league war and as origin rose in prominence.
In the 1990's internationals were massive particularly Lions and Kangaroo tours. The death of these iconic tours did not help.
I knew the figures from this bloke were bullshit. Unfortunately.
TrueIconic being the key word! Something that isnt factored into thoughts of many in this forum. Undervaluing or not recognising iconic relevance is showing ignorance that is bound to prove costly in the long run.
True
The 1994 Kangaroo Tour had massive interest both here and in the UK. The series attracted 140,000 through the gates and was only going to grow. The 1992 Lions tour was similar.
League was at it's peak in 1994, we'd had the origin game at the MCG pulling 87,000, the semi finals averaged 38,000 a game, the league was taking club games to Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne with an eye on future growth. The round average was the highest it had ever been. On top of this interest on TV was massive sponsors climbing over themselves to get on board. All killed off, and we have never gained this ground back.
My first thoughts were 'have they extended the capacity'. Then I realised who the tweet was from. The Game Caller used to post on the TRL forum with little credibility. ECT summed him up rather astutely.PNG holds 15,000. All RLWC 2017 media as stated as such, as did Brad Walter when I asked on Twitter.
I think that can draw a line through The Game Caller’s credibility.
I'm less worried with regards to Mt Smart, as I know that a 10K walk-up is not out of the realms of possibility based upon past events at the venue, throw in the healthier spread of sales across the ground, I feel it will at least look 'fuller'.
Did you buy a ticket, whats your source and when was the ticket bought?Melbourne Pax 17,000.
Other games, for Fiji v USA, the Western Grandstand is now sold out, so there's 2,435 seats allocated, and on the Eastern side, Bays 115 - 120 are pretty much full or sold out, with Bay 123 being similar. Everywhere else looks pretty sparse and easy to get tickets in the first few rows of the Bay...
Purchased this morning, yes.Did you buy a ticket, whats your source and when was the ticket bought?
My PAX was 15,800~ purchased last Thursday. So if your figure is from today, would mean we moved a staggering 1,200 tickets across the end of last week/weekend.
Purchased this morning, yes.
Sigh. Thanks for the confirmation.Purchased this morning, yes.
Gee whizz. WTF has Andrew Hill and his team been doing this past week?
Depressing reading … what about actually doing some proper promoting and marketing??!! What about, say, some print ads in the Tele, Sunday Tele, SMH and Sun-Herald ??!! I ain't seen a single print ad !!!!f**k me. 1 week out and our CEO is relying on walk ups, eligibility furore and England causing an upset for this to be a success. Bulldogs have picked up a real winner here...
http://www.afr.com/business/sport/h...cup-can-be-a-financial-winner-20171020-gz4uwm
Rugby League World Cup chief executive Andrew Hill will know the tournament will be successful if he sees long lines of fans queuing to get in for the two Lebanon games at the Sydney Football Stadium in about two weeks' time.
The World Cup kicks off on Friday night with a match between hot favourites Australia and long-time rivals England, but wider interest in the tournament that will be played in Australia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea will ultimately hinge on the fans of other countries becoming passionate about the event.
In Sydney, that means Lebanon. Plenty of players across NRL teams in the city are of Lebanese descent, and Hill and his team have worked hard to pique the interest of the large Lebanese community in order to get them to turn up to matches against England and Australia on November 4 and 11, respectively.
"We've reached out and appointed 200 ambassadors from the community," Hill tells The Australian Financial Review. "They are people of influence [like] church leaders, school teachers and other community leaders. We know there is strong pride in their culture and as Lebanese-Australians what would be better for them than to turn up to watch an iconic sporting event.
"But what we are told is that many in the community have that habit of turning up [to sports events] and paying cash at the gate on the day. So while we have that expectation that we will get strong crowds, we really don't know for sure until then."
If the tournament gets on a roll though – and interest is picking up after the high-profile defection of players such as Australian international Andrew Fifita and his New Zealand counterpart Jason Taumalolo – then the fiscal returns will be greater.
Hill and the Rugby League World Cup 2017 organisation are working with a budget of about $40 million, and based on sponsorship, government support, broadcast revenue and ticket sales he says the event is heading towards a "modest profit" that would be used by the Rugby League International Federation to promote the sport around the world.
Higher ticket sales will ultimately lead to a bigger profit.
What has boosted the event has been a bit of old-fashioned controversy, something usually not too far away from rugby league at the best of times.
The Fifita defection to Tonga – players from "Tier 1" nations are allowed to shift to the "lesser" nations if they choose to, in an effort to boost the international game – along with Taumalolo has sparked greater interest.
So much so that Hill says sales for Tonga's group matches in New Zealand are tracking higher than that of the home nation and other games so far.
There are some other unique points to the tournament, including a new broadcaster in Seven West Media which will also have host production duties.
For Seven, it has meant bringing on new sponsors such as CrownBet and Oak Hill to complement long-time rugby league corporate supporters such as Telstra and Harvey Norman. "We will show all the men's and women's tournament matches and it really opens us up to a new audience," says Seven's commercial head Kurt Burnette. "The World Cup takes us through October and November and then next year we've got Australian Open tennis, Winter Olympics and the Commonwealth Games."
The World Cup itself has 25 commercial partners, including Telstra and XXXX Gold beer. But the tournament has also attracted new sponsors such as Energizer and the $10 billion ASX-listed oil and gas company Oil Search that operates all of Papua New Guinea's oilfields.
"The Oil Search one is interesting," says Hill. "They are a company that has not been involved in rugby league before but we sold them the vision of the matches we have got in Papua New Guinea and the importance of the sport there."
The tournament has also scheduled Italy matches in Cairns, where there is a large population of Italian descent, and many other matches thanks to local and state government support across the rugby league heartland of Queensland – much to the consternation of some critics that hoped for more matches in NSW.
A semi-final and the grand final will be held in Brisbane, which will coincide with the first Ashes cricket test against England. Hill has his fingers crossed England will make it that far in the rugby league side of things, and signed up the Barmy Army as a travel partner.
But first Hill needs a strong showing from the team in the tournament's first match, a tough ask given the Australian side coached by Mal Meninga is stacked with the world's best players such as Melbourne Storm captain Cameron Smith.
"With international rugby league there can be some doubts about the competitiveness of it, so we need the Wayne Bennett-coached England to get off to a good start and play well on Friday night. We know the rest of the tournament will benefit from that."