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Robbie Farah gone?

macnaz

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Even if Gronk is right about Farah being disruptive or a bad influence - You still have to admit that the club has handled the situation in a very bad way. Which once again illustrates that we have NO competent off field leadership or any semblance of professional management!

What else can the club say ? Wouldnt it be more disrespectful to come and and say the players dont get along with him , and he Is totally distruptive to the coach ?
Maybe if thats the truth and the more Robbie goes on perhaps the club may have to come out with the reasons. Who knows.
 
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I forget to add earlier when I mentioned the Taylor 'press conference' yesterday. It was pretty amateurish wasn't it? And I blame management, we have to have someone in the club who knows the media and how to work them and work with them. Then I recalled the chairperson and her background.

Go is one of Australia’s most experienced media executive including having been a journalist for News Corp, editor of Dolly and managing editor of Cosmo, group publisher at Pacific Magazines, GM of magazines for Fairfax Media and publishing director at Emap. She is also an advisory board member of the Walkley Foundation and a director of the Odyssey House McGrath Foundation.
http://mumbrella.com.au/marina-go-leave-private-media-sydney-based-role-235085
impressive? then why mismanage this crap?

then her linkedin summary states:
25+ years in creating and building commercially successful brands that connect deeply with consumer groups across digital and print channels.
Strong focus on reputational risk and digital innovation at Board level.

" building commercially successful brands " well when are you going to start on the West Tigers brand?

We could also ask if she has any experience in sport, anything will do, well again from LinkedIn

Non-executive Director

Netball Australia

July 2007 – July 2013 (6 years 1 month)
 

simmo1

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Taylor to coach U13's :lol: Great line from Bryce Gibbs.


Here's a 13-man squad of Tigers players who have been shown the door in recent years.

1. Beau Ryan

2. Marika Koroibete

3. Dean Collis

4. Blake Ayshford

5. Lote Tuqiri

6. Benji Marshall

7. Tim Moltzen

8. Bryce Gibbs

9. Robbie Farah (c)

10. Andrew Fifita

11. Chris Heighington

12. Adam Blair

13. Blake Austin


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ah-dispute-20150826-gj7zzj.html#ixzz3jyhYexPK

Most of those players were deservedly let go. Apart from Koroibete, Austin and Fifita how many people were against those guys being shown the door?

The fact that some of these guys still feel hard done by after continually under performing speaks volumes about their attitude.
 
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gronkathon

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From what I know they gave Ayoub a chance to send out feelers.

In the end it was a cluster f**k but either way the club wasn't going to come out of this well.

Take their licks and try and make the most out of the market if he is indeed released
 

Ron's_Mate

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I feel dirty posting an article from the Telecrap, but Potter's comments are relevant.
http://www.news.com.au/national/for...ment-at-the-club/story-e6frfkp9-1227500210270
Former Wests Tigers coach says Robbie Farah’s forced exit a result of mismanagement at the club

Story by Paul Crawley
FORMER Wests Tigers coach Mick Potter has accused the club of playing “Fantasy League with other people’s money” which has led to the bombshell split with captain Robbie Farah.


The Tigers face being left paying a large portion of Farah’s $1 million-a-season salary over the final two years of his contract despite the fact the star hooker will be playing for another club.

And while backing the Tigers’ decision to hand power to new coach Jason Taylor, Potter revealed he warned the club against signing Farah to a four-year deal back in 2013 but claimed his concerns were “dismissed”.

The hugely inflated and back-ended four-year Farah deal was struck in the early stages of Potter’s troubled two-year term at the Tigers.

Under the Tigers’ dysfunctional former management, Potter said he had so little control over playing personnel that he was even questioned about signing powerhouse forward Martin Taupau.

Potter made pleas to only offer Farah a two-year deal but, as head coach, said he didn’t have control over the decision.

“No I didn’t,” Potter revealed. “My input was dismissed.

“I thought that was the right thing to do for Robbie and the club. And if he was still going well at the end of the two years, you could have kept him on.

“Age becomes no barrier. But you don’t sign a 30-year-old for four years, I don’t think.”

Asked who made the decision, Potter said: “The then board and the CEO (Grant Mayer) at the time.

“I wasn’t in control of the tenure of most of the players.”

The struggling Tigers will now be left to carry the can for the final two years of what is believed to be a $1 million-a-season contract, if Farah does leave for another NRL club and doesn’t get the same cash.

Asked if he felt disappointed by the damage coaching the Tigers did to his reputation, Potter said: “I think I finished up with a group of people who were very divisive.

“Not all, there were some very lovely people at Wests Tigers. But it was an organisation that had so many issues and needed so many changes.

“I have never been at a club like that but it was out of my control. I wasn’t able to assemble my own squad as such apart from a couple of players.

“Even with Marty Taupau, I got questioned if he was the right player for our club. They are heading in the right direction now but it is going to take a little while.

“(Jason Taylor this week) has got what a head coach should have. The power and autonomy of his roster and his staff.

“Not people who would lobby the board to get their players on the books with little or no consultation with the coach. And that is what happened. It is absolutely absurd.

“Call it naivety, I don’t know what you call it. They were trying to play ‘Fantasy League’ with real players but other people’s money instead of looking at it as a business.”

Asked if he had his time over would he still have accepted the Tigers’ coaching job, Potter said: “Well, no. Probably not.

“But it was the only gig going. They were talking about the board change for 12 months.

“If that had have happened (early in his final year) I think things could have been slightly different. “I am not saying all the problems would have been solved but they would be a year ahead of where they are now.”
 

madunit

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Interesting that Potter doesn't say anything bad about Farah.

You'd think if Farah had him sacked, he would be supporting it.

Instead he has criticised the club.
 

magpie guy

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Disgraceful and completely unprofessional rabble this club is. A broom needs to go through the entire management and board. Nuke it all and start fresh.

It's nearly like someone there wants the NRL to move the club to Perth. Or maybe sabotage the club to the point where the club exits the NRL entirely so that they can bring back the Magpies alone.
 

Magpies Forever

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I wonder if the chair and board of WT will make further statements? As a PR exercise this is a steaming tu*d. You just cant drop a hand grenade of a decision to get rid of Farah, allow all the speculation and disgruntled statements of fans, former players et all swirl around and do nothing.

The board seemed to drop Taylor in it with the press conference and we continue to look more and more foolish and unprofessional by the hour and day after day it goes on. We are a rabble.

No good waiting until Farah has had a chance to sort out his future or the seasons end, front up now and explain things.

As an aside- if the salary cap has been dodgied by Mayer & the previous board in their deals with players. Can WT take him / them to court for financial mismanagement and fraud? Where was the NRL salary cap auditors?
 
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Here's the true story :lol::lol::lol:

In another pseudo-exclusive from The Roar, we can reveal that the push to oust Robbie Farah from the Wests Tigers was sparked by a player-led revolt hatched by Robbie Farah.

The Blues hooker has been sensationally instructed that he is surplus to requirements in 2016, with the club going to great lengths to confirm they aren’t joking by threatening a year in the backwaters of reserve grade.

Tigers officials cited the reasons for Farah’s dumping as salary cap constraints and restructuring and stuff, but insider reports expose his demise as being propelled by certain factions inside the playing group, most notably, Farah’s.

After a season of abominable performances from the Tigers which sees them mired in a sloppy brawl for the NRL wooden spoon, Farah had reportedly identified himself as the catalyst for the club’s poor position after losing faith in his own direction.

These rumblings have resurfaced in recent times, after supposedly being put to bed with a mediation session in June where Farah reached an uneasy truce over pizza, despite disagreeing with himself on the choice of topping.

Here the whispers ceased temporarily as he returned his attention to undermining the club’s head coach, however it all unravelled with the weekend’s prime flogging at the hands of the Sharks.

The insipid 40-18 loss was the final straw for Farah and the moment he ultimately ran out of patience with his own leadership. Sensing action was required, he took it to a vote with teammates before making an executive decision to nip the issue in the bud using familiar tactics.

What resulted was three days of behind-the-scenes whispers that grew too loud for the administration to ignore, and yesterday their hand was forced in to fabricating some BS about the salary cap, which gave the subsequent blessing to terminate the hooker’s 12-year career at the Tigers.

When questioned on whether this was a decision driven by the player group, Tigers officials categorically denied their involvement in Farah’s sacking before happily stating, “Frankly, it’s just refreshing to be sacking someone other than a coach for once.”

As league wires began to run hot, Farah called a press conference to douse the gossip with a one-man united front, fervently denying having his own blood on his hands, while restating he has a solid working relationship with himself.

“I don’t know where all of this has come from. Me and myself get along fine.

“How much more proof do you need? We live in the same building complex together. I even play myself at tennis at least once a week.

“This is all Gorden Tallis’ fault, I bet.”

Farah’s shaky reassurance flies in the face of intel received by The Roar’s moles.

An unnamed associate of Farah says he feared the worst when the Blues hooker began questioning his own performances in online forums, and then when he refused to acknowledge himself on the field at the end of a game against the Eels, the writing was on the wall.

When again pressed on Farah’s role in his axing, the club reiterated their stance:

“The fact of the matter is this; it’s a cap issue, and the Wests Tigers are in the business of paying blokes to work for anyone as long as its not the Wests Tigers.

“Robbie has a massive back-ended deal that we pledge to continue paying, just like we still are with Tim Sheens, Mick Potter and half of our 1989 grand final winning side.”

The board has employed Farah in an advisory role in the short-term to assist in finding someone suitably disruptive as his replacement.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugb...sts-tigers/ar-BBm7Izj?ocid=spartandhp#image=1
 

Ron's_Mate

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Article from The Guardian with another priceless JT pearl of wisdom “Sometimes you’ve got to go backwards before you can go forwards,” Taylor said.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...o-move-on-with-future-success-at-club-in-mind

Wests Tigers: Robbie Farah told to move on with future success at club in mind
Australian Associated Press
Thursday 27 August 2015 15.42 AEST

Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor admits he may end up with egg on his face over Robbie Farah’s axing but says it’s being done for the long-term success of the club.

Farah has been told he will not be at Concord next season as management attempt to cut costs and clean up a salary cap mess. The NSW rake was on a back-ended contract and has been told he is free to negotiate with rival clubs despite having two years left on his deal.

The Tigers have said it may take three years to untangle their salary cap issues and Taylor admits he has been forced to make some hard decisions. “My feelings are that we need a fresh start and Robbie needs a fresh start,” Taylor said.

“We’d love nothing more than to see Robbie play for an opposition club next year and play really, really well. There’s every chance that he can do that. That might put some egg on my face but I think it’d be really good for Robbie.”

While Farah has vowed to fight for his spot next year, Taylor hosed down the possibility and said it was better for him to move on.

Tigers fans are up in arms at the culling of one of the club’s favourite sons and it comes in the wake of decisions to let go of Blake Austin and Adam Blair. The club has been widely panned, with Austin and Blair excelling at Canberra and Brisbane respectively this season.

Taylor said the club wanted to keep the pair and while they would have helped the side this year, it was better for the future success of the team.

He said parting ways with Farah was similarly difficult and the club will look to future stars like Mitchell Moses, Luke Brooks and James Tedesco to step up in the wake of Farah’s loss next year.

“Sometimes you’ve got to go backwards before you can go forwards,” Taylor said. “They’re hard decisions. But they’re aimed at Wests Tigers being a top eight team, a top four team down the track. Not tomorrow but down the track.”

Taylor said there was no rift between Farah and the rest of the playing group and denied any rumoured animosity had played a part in the decision. Prop Aaron Woods, who is favourite to assume the Tigers captaincy next season, also shot down suggestions there was bad blood between Farah and the rest of the players.

“There’s no problems,” Woods said. “It comes up every time someone leaves. I love him to death, Robbie is one of my closest friends. All the young boys love him and all the senior boys love him.”


 

madunit

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Looking more like this is only about the salary cap.

Disgraceful.

Get every red cent Robbie
 

Tigerted

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With the endless Toxic decision making @ this train wreck it won't surprise if this is all a deliberate ploy by the creatures @ the nrl via there puppets on our board to force us to relocate.

I don't think we have anyone signed beyond 2017 & we are @ the mercy of the vacuous grubs @ the nrl.It really does reek of something very untoward planned for the WT.

I haven't got a problem moving on a player who is on massive overs but the way the wt board has handled it particularly as this is our captain is reprehensible & gutless.This board of cowards have been here for 5 minutes & are rugby league illiterate yet have the gall to treat a 13 yr veteran of the club with total disdain.

I'd love to meet up with the gutless board in a dark alley & teach these grubs a few things about respect !!
 

Front-Rower

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It's the management of this club that is killing this club, rumours about Farah are hearsay aren't they? I'm guilty of saying something on the previous pages regarding Payten, rumours and hearsay is what they are. Let him go for sure but not if we have to pay a cent for it, let him stay but do not come out and say it will be in the reserves.

The following is from http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/a-...australian-sport/story-fndv39ms-1227501035000

I can agree with this woman's sentiments from an administration level but carrying on about letting players (and Sheens) go who were injury prone and under performing (2 finals series in 7 seasons after our premiership win) is just getting caught up in the media hype.
 
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madunit

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How can you blame the nrl board members for contracts that were signed over a year ago?

This club is wholly responsible for this mess.
 

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Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor will live or die by his call on Robbie Farah

Daniel Lane
Published: August 27, 2015 - 11:17PM

After making arguably the toughest call in the Wests Tigers history by sending their skipper Robbie Farah packing, coach Jason Taylor now has the job of proving to the board that supported him that he's made the right decision.

Sources on the Wests Tigers board scuttled a rumour that suggested Taylor was motivated to move Farah on after receiving an ultimatum that he had until the seventh round next season to save his job. However, now he's made the call he must ensure it works.

"It's definitely Jason stamping his authority that the team is his, now he has to make it work," said a boardroom source. "It should be easy to assume it's not salary cap and it has to do with JT wanting his team, his roster and his way . . . Robbie doesn't fit into JT's plans, clearly.

"It wasn't an easy call to make but now [Taylor] has made it results on the field will say if it's the right decision or not. That's the only way we will know if it was right."

The suggestion Taylor was walking a tightrope was shot down but the pressure on him to do well without the NSW State of Origin hooker's presence next season was apparent.

"He has a three-year contract and I can tell you that [seven round deadline] hasn't even been mentioned," said the source. "There's no time . . . he has a three-year deal. He has the full support of the board . . . and not just about Robbie.

"The board is aware of other changes [that aren't as dramatic as the Farah call] and he has to do that. He's the boss of that side of the business. Look, at the end of the day I think the club and Robbie have been honest with their feelings."

A source confirmed the discussions concerning Farah had been ongoing for "some time" and was definitely not thrown on him at the last minute. The source could not say when Farah's management informed him about the decision.

The Wests Tigers will budget a large chunk of their salary cap for Farah to play against them next season because Taylor wants his young halves Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses to have a free rein during the game. Like Taylor, the call means they too will have to perform.

News of Farah's forced departure and the suggestion he would play reserve grade if he remained outraged former Wests Tigers players and some supporters. Farah, who played in the club's famous 2005 grand final victory, will join Pat Richards and Keith Galloway in leaving the club.


This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...his-call-on-robbie-farah-20150827-gj99a7.html
 

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I would pick Robbie Farah from NSW Cup, says NSW coach Laurie Daley

Adrian Proszenko
Published: August 27, 2015 - 10:59PM

Blues coach Laurie Daley says he'd have no qualms about selecting Robbie Farah for State of Origin duty from the NSW Cup, but it would be "highly unlikely" the unwanted Tiger would retain his place from the Super League.

Farah is still pondering his options after being informed he is not part of Wests Tigers plans for the future. The 31 year old is on the best part of $2 million for the next two seasons and the joint-venture outfit want to make a clean break and get him off their books. However, few NRL clubs have the required salary cap space at this late stage of the season, even if the Tigers pay the majority of his freight.

Farah has been told that if he doesn't move on, he will be seeing out the remainder of his contract in the NSW Cup. Should that transpire, it won't be the death knell for the hooker's representative career, with Daley declaring he would pick him from reserve grade.

"I would, yeah, it wouldn't worry me," Daley said.

"Obviously you have to have a look at who's going well and who is not, but if you ask me here and now, it wouldn't worry me.

"I don't know what's gone on with the Tigers but he's an important member of our team. If he's in Australia next year and he's fit, I'm sure he will be lining up for us.

"Again, I don't know what's going to happen but I wouldn't hesitate to pick him if he's playing State Cup."

As the vice captain and a 13-game Origin veteran, Farah is one of the most senior members of the Blues ranks. He has already captained his state in the absence of regular skipper Paul Gallen and would be a leading contender to do so again if the Sharks forward retired or was unavailable for selection.

"Anything can happen, they are all hypotheticals at the moment," Daley said.

"There's no point worrying about anything right now. Hopefully he can get settled, find a club as quickly as possible and he can move on.

"If he elects to stay and fight for his spot, you never know what could happen. That's an option as well. If he stays, the hooker breaks down in the first week of the comp, will they still not pick him?

"Obviously they are trying to force him out and he will either play hardball or move on. That's a decision for them, I don't want to get involved with that."

Queensland legend Allan Langer further etched his name into Origin folklore when he made a stunning comeback in the third and deciding game in 2001 from the Super League. Asked if Farah would be considered if he shifted to England, Daley said: "I think that would be too hard, travelling from one side of the world to the other and dealing with clubs. I haven't given it proper consideration and I'd need time to give you a proper answer but I'd find it highly unlikely."

Daley, who spent time in Bourke to help celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Ronny Gibbs Sevens, said he had briefly contacted Farah to pass on his best wishes.

"I just briefly touched based with him but just briefly, he said.

"I just wanted to know how he's going and told him to keep his chin up."


This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...s-nsw-coach-laurie-daley-20150827-gj9fgx.html
 

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Robbie Farah deal: Wests Tigers should honour 'spirit' of contract, says RLPA

Brad Walter
Published: August 27, 2015 - 9:16PM

Refusing to select Robbie Farah in first grade would be against the spirit of the NRL contract he signed with Wests Tigers, according to Rugby League Players Association president Clint Newton.

With Farah believed to be intending to dig in over the Tigers attempts to move him on with two years remaining on his contract, the NSW Origin hooker met with RLPA representatives on Thursday to discuss his options after being told he could stay but was likely to be playing reserve grade.

While Newton refused to discuss specific details of Farah's case, he said the Tigers captain deserved to be treated far better after signing a lucrative four year contract in 2013 that had been expected to see him finish his career as a one club player.

"All players and agents negotiate and register contracts in good faith and on the understanding that they will be honoured," Newton said.

"One of the biggest things here is that it is not just about honouring the terms, it's also about honouring the spirit of the contract and we certainly don't believe our players should suffer because a club hasn't properly managed their roster."

The Tigers say they have had to make the difficult decision because of salary cap problems but Newton said Farah's contribution to the club went beyond his on-field deeds and the club should show him the same commitment.

"I think players deliver more than football to a club and I certainly think Robbie is that case in point," Newtown said. "Players are continually called upon to help out with promotions and member activities, which of course they are willing to do to grow the game and the club.

"I think that in return for that sort of commitment from a players point of view they certainly deserve to be treated with some respect and dignity.

"Rugby league people are still people, they are people first and they have families and mortgages and lives just like everyone else, and they hurt like everyone else.

"They are not products in a buy, swap and sell market, they are real people who sign contracts in good faith in both honouring the terms of the contract on their behalf and the club honouring the terms of the contract on its behalf."

Meanwhile, Sydney Roosters coach Trent Robinson has backed his former assistant Jason Taylor's efforts in his first season in charge of troubled Wests Tigers, who are last with just seven wins from 22 matches.

Robinson was adamant Farah, who has played more than 230 first grade game for the Tigers since his debut in 2003, would have little trouble finding a new home, though it remains to be seen whether that is in the NRL or overseas.

"Robbie will be wanted, that will be clear," Robinson said on Thursday. "There will be clubs that would be mad not to think about getting a player of his quality."

Robinson felt Taylor, who was his assistant for the Roosters' premiership in 2013 and also in 2014, was doing well in his first year as Tigers head coach.

"It has been strong this year and he's been leading the way, he's a very good coach and he's given them some direction," Robinson said.

"Not everyone is going to agree with that and people are allowed to have their opinions, but obviously JT (Taylor) and the club have decided on a path and they need to make sure it works and Robbie (Farah) is still going to have a say in that as well.

"I think he (Taylor) has done well first year. It's been a tough period for a long time for Wests Tigers, but they seem as solid as they've ever been for a while."

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...it-of-contract-says-rlpa-20150827-gj9emv.html
 

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