Round 1 v Cowboys

[Mark D]

Get ready for an up and down start to the season. I don’t see us starting like we did last year but instead start and hopefully finish like the Roosters did last year.. Like the chooks of 2018 it’s gonna take time for the combinations to settle but once they do I think we will be very potent...I also expect one or two of our young forwards to really break out this year...

 

[possm]

Get ready for an up and down start to the season. I don’t see us starting like we did last year but instead start and hopefully finish like the Roosters did last year.. Like the chooks of 2018 it’s gonna take time for the combinations to settle but once they do I think we will be very potent...I also expect one or two of our young forwards to really break out this year...

The difference is that the Chooks have a variety of game plans and are able to switch between them during a game. I believe Mary will use the same game plan he has used for the past few years. This means our forwards will be going flat out from round 1. So win or lose all will be the same. Unless we rotate the forwards and manage the bench properly, we will fade mid season because our forwards will be going flat out every game.

Mary needs to ensure our backs provide the least drag on the field. The more drag the more weight put on the shoulders of the forwards.

 

[RufusRex]

Seems DUFTY is very capable .on one hand. And has lots of holes please make up your mind not you George , Rufus. Rex

Sorry OD .. I meant Robson in the first part ... Duff = Dudd.

 

[RufusRex]

As for Host ... I think that one run in the shield will give him a bit of confidence .. I expect he will develop quite nicely given a decent shot.

 

[Crush]

On last season's form, nobody doubts Dufty's talent in attack in broken play. It is other parts of his game that came into question. Now if he has built up his frame, gained confidence in defence and taking the high ball and improved his ability to go to ground when close to his try-line or touch-line, then he should be in the mix to play fullback.

Attack in broken play isn't Dufty's only strength. He is excellent in chiming into backline plays close to the line. He has great vision and can put the ball on the centre or wingers chest to put them in for a try. Because he has speed and elusiveness he attracts defense and creates overlaps.
He isn't a one trick pony as many suggest he is.

 

[RufusRex]

Attack in broken play isn't Dufty's only strength. He is excellent in chiming into backline plays close to the line. He has great vision and can put the ball on the centre or wingers chest to put them in for a try. Because he has speed and elusiveness he attracts defense and creates overlaps.
He isn't a one trick pony as many suggest he is.

14 games last season vs the Top 8 teams
Tries - 4 (2 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Line Breaks - 6 (3 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Try Assists - 3

He is ineffective against the good teams .. we need better.

 

[Overseas dragon]

Surely our brittle right edge defence and our compress defensive structure is common knowledge to all NRL clubs. We just don't have a chance if our right edge is Host, Hunt and Aitken.

14 games last season vs the Top 8 teams
Tries - 4 (2 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Line Breaks - 6 (3 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Try Assists - 3

He is ineffective against the good teams .. we need better.

Semi final broncos first play of the game Dufty puts Periera over in the corner .Unfortunately Periera puts his foot into touch, not Dufty's fault. Later in same game to lafai .TRY. put on your glasses mate next game you watch

 

[RufusRex]

Lol - you are watching and rating the games he did something positive - I am looking at the ones where he didn’t.

You didn’t get to watch as many games as me

That was one of his 3 try assists against top 8 teams .. there were 2 more in 13 games but apparently he is great at putting the ball on our centre/wingers chest for a try

Robson has more upside as a bench utility ..

 

[True_Believer]

14 games last season vs the Top 8 teams
Tries - 4 (2 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Line Breaks - 6 (3 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Try Assists - 3

He is ineffective against the good teams .. we need better.

James Tedesco
13 games against top 8 teams

Tries - 5
Line Breaks - 7
Try Assists - 3

He's also ineffective against the good teams and Roosters could do better.

 

[RufusRex]

James Tedesco
13 games against top 8 teams

Tries - 5
Line Breaks - 7
Try Assists - 3

He's also ineffective against the good teams and Roosters could do better.

Did he get a game like the sharks where half his results came against a team losing 3 of their best forwards?

That shaks game flatters him ... the other 13 games are 2 tries/3 line breaks which compared to Tedesco is trash.

 

[watatank]

14 games last season vs the Top 8 teams
Tries - 4 (2 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Line Breaks - 6 (3 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Try Assists - 3

He is ineffective against the good teams .. we need better.

any stats on runs, run metres and tackle breaks?

 

[Overseas dragon]

Lol - you are watching and rating the games he did something positive - I am looking at the ones where he didn’t.

You didn’t get to watch as many games as me

That was one of his 3 try assists against top 8 teams .. there were 2 more in 13 games but apparently he is great at putting the ball on our centre/wingers chest for a try

Robson has more upside as a bench utility ..

YOU made the comment about top teams REX. Spec savers seems appropriate ... . ........and I'm the first to say MATT needs to improve his takes ,his defence, and his kick returns. But as far as attack and his putting guys into a hole he's very good .. ..

 

[RufusRex]

But as far as attack and his putting guys into a hole he's very good .. ..

You are funny .. 7 line break assists across the season ... half that of Tedesco

 

[True_Believer]

Did he get a game like the sharks where half his results came against a team losing 3 of their best forwards?

That shaks game flatters him ... the other 13 games are 2 tries/3 line breaks which compared to Tedesco is trash.

Lol. No, but a fair few of those stats came against us which I’m sure you’ll agree is nothing to brag about.

Doesn’t matter where or how they came, both fullbacks performed equally against top 8 sides. Much like possm, you’re willing to make allowances elsewhere but not for the team you support.

 

[RufusRex]

Lol. No, but a fair few of those stats came against us which I’m sure you’ll agree is nothing to brag about.

Doesn’t matter where or how they came, both fullbacks performed equally against top 8 sides. Much like possm, you’re willing to make allowances elsewhere but not for the team you support.

No I am saying that Dufty is not the attacking weapon that he is hyped to be .. Our attack for 20mintes a game would improve drastically with Robson not Dufty and have the benefit of spelling Mcinnes increasing his effectiveness too.

Mary is blinkered and pulling the absolute wrong reign.

Dufty should be back int he reggies working on tackling their big blokes head on, catching the ball on the full and getting into the right positions defensively. This will help for 2020 when he is back in the 1.

 

[True_Believer]

No I am saying that Dufty is not the attacking weapon that he is hyped to be .. Our attack for 20mintes a game would improve drastically with Robson not Dufty and have the benefit of spelling Mcinnes increasing his effectiveness too.

Mary is blinkered and pulling the absolute wrong reign.

Dufty should be back int he reggies working on tackling their big blokes head on, catching the ball on the full and getting into the right positions defensively. This will help for 2020 when he is back in the 1.

Ok - I understand where you are coming from. However, I don’t believe all of those things are an issue all of the time. It’s more about consistency than anything else. He’s shown to have those capabilities, he’s just not currently capable of maintaining them across the season.

Many point to the Canterbury game as a prime example of his limitations. He himself has stated that he wasn’t prepared for the length of the season and he was running on tired legs towards the end of it. I think those final games were more about fatigue than actual inability.

 

[Overseas dragon]

You are funny .. 7 line break assists across the season ... half that of Tedesco

Better to be funny than totally blinkered Rex

 

[Crush]

14 games last season vs the Top 8 teams
Tries - 4 (2 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Line Breaks - 6 (3 in one game vs depleted sharks)
Try Assists - 3

He is ineffective against the good teams .. we need better.

What about his stats against the bottom 8 teams?
Would you mind posting those too?
Because if my memory serves me correctly he was instrumental in getting the 2 points on a number of occasions against the bottom 8 teams and without him playing those games the dragons wouldn't have played finals.

 

[Crush]

No I am saying that Dufty is not the attacking weapon that he is hyped to be .. Our attack for 20mintes a game would improve drastically with Robson not Dufty and have the benefit of spelling Mcinnes increasing his effectiveness too.

Mary is blinkered and pulling the absolute wrong reign.

Dufty should be back int he reggies working on tackling their big blokes head on, catching the ball on the full and getting into the right positions defensively. This will help for 2020 when he is back in the 1.

I completely agree that Robson is the better option off the bench, Dufty shouldn't be on the bench, he should start at fullback or play reserve grade.

 

[RufusRex]

Better to be funny than totally blinkered Rex

And the award for forums most ironic post goes to you.