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Round 10 Panthers V Storm

WestyLife

First Grade
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Well said Tom.

The mantra of Penrith will and must win everything by 1,000, to the alternative of the team is shit, and everyone playing in the team is shit. The swing is so wide and it lurches from one extreme to another.

Penrith lost one game, by 2 points. That's all. They were always going to lose a game eventually. Better now in season, that during the finals.

The pontificating by some, is frankly astounding. If you're so knowledgeable and have some great footy brains. For sure you'd be employed by a club for footy analysis and stats.

Or at least coaching a junior team in your local area.

I just see a lot of hot air being expelled.

Bellamy goes off his tree when winning by 40 and the team make a mistake. Winners keep trying to be better and set standards.

I'd love to coach a team but my work hours don't allow it. I'll let my family go without so my opinion counts for more on the internet.
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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Bellamy goes off his tree when winning by 40 and the team make a mistake. Winners keep trying to be better and set standards.

I'd love to coach a team but my work hours don't allow it. I'll let my family go without so my opinion counts for more on the internet.

Your last sentence Westy I have no idea what you actually mean.

I agree that winners attempt to continually improve. I don't agree with the 'going off your tree' bit. To me that is extreme.

Luai has been playing well in 2022. The same with Martin.

Last week Penrith got beaten by a team who played slightly better than themselves, and a couple of missed goal kicks. Hardly the time to be declaring and blustering that the 'whole team is shit.'

Penrith played well. Parramatta played slightly better than us. Also the bounce of the ball went in favour of Parramatta. That is footy, and it happens.

The rubbish being thrown around about Luai, Martin, and Cleary is (in my opinion) is not fair.

Cleary has come back from shoulder surgery, showing some great form. So why the continual pulling down of such players.

Penrith were beaten by 2 points. Not 15 and not 20. In my opinion, the hysterical ranting is just plain silly.
 

Iamback

Referee
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Martin playing well....

He is averaging 83m a game. 26th in backrowers or 168th in the comp
Tackle % of 81% puts him 261st in the comp. Not in the top 50 for 2nd rowers

Despite being 21st for minutes

From an Origin player I don't think is good enough. So will comment as such
 

BxTom

Bench
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Some people here are knobs..

How dare like minded fans discuss how a side they support can be better

Ahhh the old "you're not a true fan" bullshit...

Grow the f**k up you clowns.
Who said anything about true fans? Wasn't me, it was StupidMUG that criticised 'bandwagon fans. Nobody said anything about not wanting to improve the team. Stop being a loud mouth. Thanks Iamback for the self confession...
 

Iamback

Referee
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Who said anything about true fans? Wasn't me, it was StupidMUG that criticised 'bandwagon fans. Nobody said anything about not wanting to improve the team. Stop being a loud mouth. Thanks Iamback for the self confession...

Well people are discussing improvements to the team.

Some others are sulking about such comments. On an opinion forum
 

ACTPanthers

Bench
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Who said anything about true fans? Wasn't me, it was StupidMUG that criticised 'bandwagon fans. Nobody said anything about not wanting to improve the team. Stop being a loud mouth. Thanks Iamback for the self confession...
Maybe not word for word, but shit like the below is pretty close to it...

And my mouth will be as loud as I f**king want it to be champ.

Imagine if these guys had of been Penrith fans during the late 90s or late 00s…
 

WestyLife

First Grade
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Your last sentence Westy I have no idea what you actually mean.

I agree that winners attempt to continually improve. I don't agree with the 'going off your tree' bit. To me that is extreme.

Luai has been playing well in 2022. The same with Martin.

Last week Penrith got beaten by a team who played slightly better than themselves, and a couple of missed goal kicks. Hardly the time to be declaring and blustering that the 'whole team is shit.'

Penrith played well. Parramatta played slightly better than us. Also the bounce of the ball went in favour of Parramatta. That is footy, and it happens.

The rubbish being thrown around about Luai, Martin, and Cleary is (in my opinion) is not fair.

Cleary has come back from shoulder surgery, showing some great form. So why the continual pulling down of such players.

Penrith were beaten by 2 points. Not 15 and not 20. In my opinion, the hysterical ranting is just plain silly.

This started because I said Luai needs to have better output if he's going to keep giving away penalties with his silly niggle.

Not exactly "the entire team sucks" it's not even "Luai sucks".
 

Iamback

Referee
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I'd rather just play hopgood of the bench.

This is my issue with NSW Cup. Guys who could be in positions that serve FG better aren't
Jenkins too was a beast in his half at centre on the weekend... Then back to the wing where we have 3000 players
 

hindy111

Post Whore
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Parra are no chance to win the comp. I'll give you 20s if you want


They beat the Storm and Penrith away from home. Also had Marata,Waqa Blake and Sivo missing against you guys.
They are a chance for sure if luck goes their way. Especialy if Penrith and Storm copped an injury or two.
 

murraymob

Coach
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Back on subject we will beat the storm.Close game as we are not putting side away.the strength will be around the ruck .munster will do a lot of show and go.controll the ruck area we win
 

hindy111

Post Whore
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Back on subject we will beat the storm.Close game as we are not putting side away.the strength will be around the ruck .munster will do a lot of show and go.controll the ruck area we win


They have one of their best players out in Papenhuzen.

Welch also gone but for the season so won't be back. I think Penrith will win.
 

Girds89

Bench
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Martin playing well....

He is averaging 83m a game. 26th in backrowers or 168th in the comp
Tackle % of 81% puts him 261st in the comp. Not in the top 50 for 2nd rowers

Despite being 21st for minutes

From an Origin player I don't think is good enough. So will comment as such
Been busy last few days and havent posted to much.

Ive read the last few pages and have my usual gripes.. smug paying put on luai when burtons been rubbish all year is one but im not suprised by that.

Your a smart poster mate.

But sometimes you use stats to prove an opinion or agenda without tacking into account all the facts.

Truth is our forwards dont do anywhere near as much work as our backs..

We are a team that heavily heavily realies on our backs to do the grunt work out of our own end.

We do this so blokes like Martin can put in huge huge defensive efforts in the opposite end. Driving blokes backwards and getting them on their back etc..

Its what our team is built on.

I said it the other week but a lot of martins misses are from trying to put on huge shots where he may make an initial huge contact but bounce off. That initial contact tho is enough for others to drive a player backwards.. but still gets chalked up as a miss for him.

Martin barely ever misses tackles in our defensive 50 when hes being conservative in the line..

And in attack hes been really solid..he sees less ball than kiks and is on the weaker side. He gets used as a decoy a lot and as i said doesmt do any off the grunt work cause our backs do.

Using stats to try prove hes not involved much and isnt working hard is soo soo silly.

You want him.to make 150m a week? Well our defensive drive and pushing teams back 3m every tackle will go down hill..

Hes doing the exact role ivan wants of him.

I couldnt care less about the stats... i cant remember a miss hes had this year that lead to a break or a try???

Most his misses are strategic and in the opposite end.

Hes runs are strong and he lands on the belly and gets really quick play the balls..

The fact he isnt averaging 150m a game only speaks to the current team structures and nothing to do with liam.
 

Girds89

Bench
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They beat the Storm and Penrith away from home. Also had Marata,Waqa Blake and Sivo missing against you guys.
They are a chance for sure if luck goes their way. Especialy if Penrith and Storm copped an injury or two.
Honestly hindy..im not like some others in here.

Couldnt care less if you post on our chat or parras or whatever.

Youre always pretty respectful..

But you need to get over the injuries.. ive read half a dozen posts you keep referencing blokes being out.

Truth is
Waqa is shit house.. i dont care what you say.
Sivo is deadset rocks and diamonds..

And almost back us to have won even out of form if those two had played because they are good for a few mistakes a game.

Ray stone is ok but he aint nowhere near best 17.

Cant even remember the other plods you had
out..

Only bloke who gets in is marata niokure over carty.

Parra did well to beat us but id ALMOST argue you guys were as close to full strength as us.

The guys that played wing and centre etc are your future. Sivo and waqa certainly arent.
 

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