Round 10 vs Storm

[RedVDave]

McGuire's tackle was similar to the one that saw Dufty leave the field. And Kaufusi did a high shot on one of our players but somehow managed to avoid the sin bin.

It is what it is, but just saying Melbourne weren't the well disciplined side that some commentators would have us believe.

Melbourne getting away with grubby tactics? Only for the last 18 seasons.

 

[Willow]

Melbourne getting away with grubby tactics? Only for the last 18 seasons.

I laughed when Cameron Smith was talking as part of the commentary team. Apparently he has been signed up by Channel Nine.

He called Melbourne "we" but quickly corrected himself to say "Storm" in an effort to sound impartial. A short time later the camera caught him in the coaches box next to Bellamy.

 

[Lovemedragons]

Saints played as well as they can under the circumstances. Their first half was amazing. I cannot understand how Fui and Maguire get pulled up by VR and Kafusi nothing? 1 quick replay which clearly shows he hit Norman in face across the nose and nothing? Did you notice how quick they showed it. Blink and you missed. Wow, again how obvious is that. It would have been nice to see Saints play the storm 12 on 12 as it should have been.

All bad calls were not ref, it was bunker. I thought the bunker was there to support the ref not officiate as that is what they do. Not only override what the ref sees but are selective which is why they run the game and can manipulate to get the result they want which is obvious with the Kafusi case.

As for Melb, the Addo-Carr incident was an attempt to get Maguire sent off or binned. They were playing against 12 yet wanted 11. As soon as nothing happened Addo-Carr was straight on. Funny how commentator on the field said he was not coming on, yet a second later he was playing his spot. What a quick recovery. Dufty was definitely targeted and that injury could have been avoided if the players did not throw him to the ground the way they did.

I think Hook killed the game by putting Bird at F/B. He was killing it. Burns goes there and it is a disaster. Feagai was on the bench and should have gone to the wing and Ramsey at F/B. Terrible call as he had a back on the bench. Williame is back next week so it will be Brid and Williame in the Centres. I have a feeling it will be Norman at F/B and Amone or Sullivan at 5/8.

How good was Ben Hunt? Our shining light yesterday. Getting back to his best. Rava was great to but being put on report AGAIN will change his style of defence if charged and misses more weeks which is sad as what he does seems to be ok for other sides but not him as I see those type of hits every game that get applauded. He will need to change his style big time. His timing is right it is how he will make the contact.

What can I say, we unfortunately follow the dirtiest side in the NRL and a club that support criminals so we are led to believe.

Ben Hunt was really good, just hope he can keep the momentum and remain positive over the next crucial month, he has to lead the way if we are to come through it in a good position.

 

[TruSaint]

McGuire's tackle was similar to the one that saw Dufty leave the field. And Kaufusi did a high shot on one of our players but somehow managed to avoid the sin bin.

It is what it is, but just saying Melbourne weren't the well disciplined side that some commentators would have us believe.

Kafusi on Norman.

Minimum sin bin as per yesterdays guidelines.

 

[Dragsters]

Realy got to disagree about Hunts defence. He is quite good but with a man overlap he was put in a position to make a choice that didnt always come off. We have a few arm tacklers in this side but Hunt is not one of them.

Hunt is already making cover tackles for all of Kerr's misses.

He is one the best defensive halves in the game today...

 

[Dragonsteve2]

not sure why so much hate on Maguire, he played much like de Belin did, run to the line and pass out the back to halves which allowed us to spread to bird. Yes he made one high tackle which wasn't even that high. I personally thought he was one of the MOTM, especially filling in at Dummy half. Id love to hear reasons why he was as bad as people say he was besides the 10 in the bin

I am with you on McGuire, RD! He has been very consistent each week. Though having said that, his sinbinning probably contributed to Fui's tackle, which I saw as a frantic and misjudged effort to stop the movement.

Much of what I would comment on the game has already been said so I will try not to offer repetition. I agree with those who believed Kaufusi should have at least been penalised for slapping Norman. After Fui's send-off I tried to watch the Storm's tackling to see if they were treated equally but other than Kaufusi's slap I saw nothing that deserved attention from ref/bunker. Shows the level of discipline the Storm have. Change rule interpretations and they are immediately on to it. Perhaps our blokes like Fui, McGuire and Sims who enjoy a "shot" are the guys in danger if a shot goes slightly wrong.

McGuire's tackle on A-C: he refused to submit in the tackle. Don't exactly know what McG was meant to do.

I was actually surprised that once Cody was in the team Fui stayed at centre. I thought Max F would take the centre spot. Then surprised when Burns took over from Fui. Having said that, Max did look lost once he came on. Perhaps we are expecting too much of juniors who have played little or no JF and only a handful of reserves.

Probably the worst feature of yesterday's game is the impact it will have on the Dragons' next few games through player unavailability. It makes me think back to how I first looked at this season - a stepping stone to something better in 2022. At least the effort was very evident yesterday as it has been most weeks. How would a Mary era team have responded to the Fui send off so early in the game? 0-60?

 

[Dragsters]

Kafusi on Norman.

Minimum sin bin as per yesterdays guidelines.

Its like Karfusi is the Teflon guy.

Nothing for the Matterson dog shot (which arguably fuelled this crackdown) and again yesterday, crickets...

 

[TruSaint]

Its like Karfusi is the Teflon guy.

Nothing for the Matterson dog shot (which arguably fuelled this crackdown) and again yesterday, crickets...

That's the one where he came down with an elbow yeah ?

Grub of a player.

 

[BLM01]

not sure why so much hate on Maguire, he played much like de Belin did, run to the line and pass out the back to halves which allowed us to spread to bird. Yes he made one high tackle which wasn't even that high. I personally thought he was one of the MOTM, especially filling in at Dummy half. Id love to hear reasons why he was as bad as people say he was besides the 10 in the bin

I agree works hard and often all game
but he did drop that pass when we were attacking line with a few minutes left in the first half
And unlucky or not ill discipline cost us and McGuire was a part of that

 

[boardlumps62]

Should have

Kafusi on Norman.

Minimum sin bin as per yesterdays guidelines.

Should have hit the ground.

 

[Gareth67]

Storm are the choir boys of the competition and have been for years - at least Bellamy believes so . But the rest of us doity f##kers must learn our lesson as far as ‘playing in the true spirit of the game ‘ is concerned .

Speaking of Kafusi - as already said by many other members - he is undoubtedly a dirty player at heart and if the judiciary was truly worth their salt , they would be having a good look at that incident with Norman and they would quickly come to the conclusion that he needs a long stint on the sideline.

It’s merely a case of growing some bolls to do the job that has been entrusted to them - without fear or favor .

 

[TruSaint]

Storm are the choir boys of the competition and have been for years - at least Bellamy believes so . But the rest of us doity f##kers must learn our lesson as far as ‘playing in the true spirit of the game ‘ is concerned .

Speaking of Kafusi - as already said by many other members - he is undoubtedly a dirty player at heart and if the judiciary was truly worth their salt , they would be having a good look at that incident with Norman and they would quickly come to the conclusion that he needs a long stint on the sideline.

It’s merely a case of growing some bolls to do the job that has been entrusted to them - without fear or favor .

Nothing for Kaufusi.

McGuire up to 7 weeks... ??? Oh do f**k off NRL

Round 10 charges: Papa out of Origin; McGuire, Ese'ese, Fuimaono face lengthy bans

Canberra prop Josh Papalii is out of Origin I after accepting a three-game suspension while another nine players have been charged by the match review committee on Monday.

Dragons trio Josh McGuire, Mikaele Ravalawa and Tyrell Fuimaono are facing lengthy bans along with Titans forwards Tyrone Peachey and Herman Ese'ese.


McGuire is facing a ban of 5-7 matches for dangerous contact for a hip-drop tackle on Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, Ravalawa (2-3 matches) was pinged for a grade-one shoulder charge while Fuimaono (5-6 matches) was handed a grade-one reckless charge for his high shot on Storm star Ryan Papenhuyzen.

Fuimaono was sent off for the tackle in the heavy loss to Melbourne.

Fuimaono sent off for high shot Papenhuyzen


Fuimaono sent off for high shot Papenhuyzen

St George Illawarra forward Tariq Sims (1-2) could also be suspended for grade-two dangerous contact for a hip-drop on Melbourne utility Tyson Smoothy.

McGuire was also charged with a careless high tackle for his hit on Justin Olam, which was deemed a grade-one offence, which carries a fine of $2600-$3450 due to his poor judiciary record.

Ese'ese, who was sent off for his high hit on Panthers winger Brian To'o, is looking at 3-4 matches after being charged with a grade-three careless high tackle while Peachey's crusher tackle on Liam Martin means he will be banned two weeks unless he proves his innocence.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/05/15/round-10-judiciary-charges/

 

[Dragsters]

That's the one where he came down with an elbow yeah ?

Grub of a player.

Yeah forearm with force after the tackle was completed and Mattersons head hit the ground so hard he gets concussed and has to sit out 4 weeks i think it was...

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

Kafusi on Norman.

Minimum sin bin as per yesterdays guidelines.

That was worse than Fuimaono’s one imo. I actually don’t know if Fuimaono even connected with Paps head. It just looked to me like he backed into it and Pap hit the ground which knocked him out. I could be wrong and haven’t watched it in super slow mo but the actual intent is basically exactly the same but not so much as a penalty. This one is twice as bad as McGuires binning.

 

[TruSaint]

That was worse than Fuimaono’s one imo. I actually don’t know if Fuimaono even connected with Paps head. It just looked to me like he backed into it and Pap hit the ground which knocked him out. I could be wrong and haven’t watched it in super slow mo but the actual intent is basically exactly the same but not so much as a penalty. This one is twice as bad as McGuires binning.

I agree.

Hope they fork out some money and fight all of these.

 

[Dion]

Saints played as well as they can under the circumstances. Their first half was amazing. I cannot understand how Fui and Maguire get pulled up by VR and Kafusi nothing? 1 quick replay which clearly shows he hit Norman in face across the nose and nothing? Did you notice how quick they showed it. Blink and you missed. Wow, again how obvious is that. It would have been nice to see Saints play the storm 12 on 12 as it should have been.

All bad calls were not ref, it was bunker. I thought the bunker was there to support the ref not officiate as that is what they do. Not only override what the ref sees but are selective which is why they run the game and can manipulate to get the result they want which is obvious with the Kafusi case.

As for Melb, the Addo-Carr incident was an attempt to get Maguire sent off or binned. They were playing against 12 yet wanted 11. As soon as nothing happened Addo-Carr was straight on. Funny how commentator on the field said he was not coming on, yet a second later he was playing his spot. What a quick recovery. Dufty was definitely targeted and that injury could have been avoided if the players did not throw him to the ground the way they did.

I think Hook killed the game by putting Bird at F/B. He was killing it. Burns goes there and it is a disaster. Feagai was on the bench and should have gone to the wing and Ramsey at F/B. Terrible call as he had a back on the bench. Williame is back next week so it will be Brid and Williame in the Centres. I have a feeling it will be Norman at F/B and Amone or Sullivan at 5/8.

How good was Ben Hunt? Our shining light yesterday. Getting back to his best. Rava was great to but being put on report AGAIN will change his style of defence if charged and misses more weeks which is sad as what he does seems to be ok for other sides but not him as I see those type of hits every game that get applauded. He will need to change his style big time. His timing is right it is how he will make the contact.

What can I say, we unfortunately follow the dirtiest side in the NRL and a club that support criminals so we are led to believe.

Totally agree with many of your comments.
I thought it was an obvious choice to put Ramsey at FB instead of Bird.
If Ramsey gets a chance, he will shine at FB even though Dufty is playing very well.
Burns was thrown to the wolves really. Backrowers that fill in at centre are an easy target for a smart football team.
Feagai brothers need game time in FG in order to get used to the speed and physicality of first grade. I think they will step up for sure.
Maguire was one of our best and showed his versatility at dummy half which he handled seamlessly.
I think he adds some experience and starch to our pack and I'm glad we signed him.
We were on a hiding to nothing once left with 11/12 men.
Then losing Dufty at such a crucial time, ended all hope which psychologically affected the whole team.
That manifested itself into conceding a bunch of points unfortunately.
I thought that while Fui was on the field we looked very capable of springing an upset but it wasn't to be.
Regardless, I am enjoying watching this group come together as a cohesive unit under an experienced coach.
Win lose or draw, it bears no resemblance to the 7 wasted McGregor years.

 

[since77]

That hip drop is a farce. There was nothing in that tackle. Perhaps the NRL want to clarify - so there’s no tackling around the head allowed (we all agree on that). But now a standard tackle around the legs is a hip drop…. What part of the body are they allowed to make contact with now?

 

[dragonfire]

Kaufusi didnt even get a fine for that. Swinging arm which made direct forceful contact with the head...

Sims tackle in my opinion is quite dangerous, its a horse collar in the NFL and outlawed as it destroys knee when you pull someone down from behind at the collar. But it isnt a hip drop and the fact the commentary through that out there is laughable. It was like, storm player injured there has to be foul play, hip drop...

McGuire was unlucky, tackled around the waist, cant do much else.

If they are going to give Rava time on sideline for that they need to be consistent as there is worse that because they attempt to wrap up it isnt a shoulder charge. They banned the shoulder charge because they were getting misjudged and hitting heads. Rava looks like he was going to tackle, but realised the player passed so hasnt continued and just bumped him off with shoulder. Might have been worried about carrying through with the tackle because he has been pinged with it before?

 

[Lovemedragons]

Seems the NRL are not satisfied with burying us just for the Storm game, we are now being persecuted for the rest of the season for daring to stick it to the purple wonders. None of the incidents warrant the ridiculous penalties being laid on our guys, sorry.

 

[boardlumps62]

Kaufusi didnt even get a fine for that. Swinging arm which made direct forceful contact with the head...

Sims tackle in my opinion is quite dangerous, its a horse collar in the NFL and outlawed as it destroys knee when you pull someone down from behind at the collar. But it isnt a hip drop and the fact the commentary through that out there is laughable. It was like, storm player injured there has to be foul play, hip drop...

McGuire was unlucky, tackled around the waist, cant do much else.

If they are going to give Rava time on sideline for that they need to be consistent as there is worse that because they attempt to wrap up it isnt a shoulder charge. They banned the shoulder charge because they were getting misjudged and hitting heads. Rava looks like he was going to tackle, but realised the player passed so hasnt continued and just bumped him off with shoulder. Might have been worried about carrying through with the tackle because he has been pinged with it before?

Thats exactly what I thought of Ravas tackle oops he passed I need to cover as we're a man short.