Round 14 - v Tigers

[Dragonslayer]

According to conspiracy theorists, we should lose this game, due to the fact we have 3 SOO players and the Tigers have NIL.

 

[Auntie.Gerald]

i suspect the major issue is that Ben Hunt is mainly a right side half

Flanno can play both

Marschke is primarily a right side half

It really doesnt matter the number on their back

It matters what they do set to set in attack and defence ie what are their specific roles

Ben Hunt will stay right side

Marschke may struggle on the left? Flanno is a very good defender most weeks on teh left and moves his team around to set up plays for his no7.......sounds almost back to front doesnt?

But the reality one of the players needs more time in the halves to capitalise on opportunities ie more seconds on the 3rd 4th and 5th tackles.............for me that is Hunt I woud want with more time and space as a half.

I think Hunt is that guy just above the other two right now

 

[Dragon David]

The answer to that is probably no to both, Flanno did mention this in his PC, he said consistency rests with what you do on and off the field and he said the team is not there yet and will take time. As for Sloan well is is still young and learning and will not get everything right or do everything wrong on the same night, conditions change things a lot. I'll give you an example for the last few weeks young Armstrong had been having blinders standing in for Ponga, so much so there were contracts galore coming at him from everywhere, even the Roosters, check out his game on the weekend, multiple dropped bombs, missed numerous tackles and made a lot of mistakes under the conditions. He is 23 and Sloan is 21. As a matter of fact O'brien in his PC made mention that he should stop looking at all the offers and comments about how good he is and just focus on the team and playing good footy. Sloan is just a casual beast that will do brilliant and stupid things in one game, thus said in our team only he can do the brilliant stuff whereas there are lot who do all the stupid things. My opinion he is our future No 1 and loves being a Dragon, thats enough for me.

Beautifully said and put together there justa.

 

[steerlerbab]

We should not rush Hunt, Lomax and Sua after SOO. As somebody said above Hunt at 14 in case we need him and Sua plays off the bench (not getting more than 20 to 30 minutes each) and rest Lomax. We may have to drop Blocka for Sua and either BMM or Ryan for Ben. Let marshke, Liddle and Kyle play while Ben is watching off the bench and come in if the game close and we need him.

 

[justadragon]

We should not rush Hunt, Lomax and Sua after SOO. As somebody said above Hunt at 14 in case we need him and Sua plays off the bench (not getting more than 20 to 30 minutes each) and rest Lomax. We may have to drop Blocka for Sua and either BMM or Ryan for Ben. Let marshke, Liddle and Kyle play while Ben is watching off the bench and come in if the game close and we need him.

Surely you dont mean we bring BH on to help us close out a game

 

[Saints Forever]

We should not rush Hunt, Lomax and Sua after SOO. As somebody said above Hunt at 14 in case we need him and Sua plays off the bench (not getting more than 20 to 30 minutes each) and rest Lomax. We may have to drop Blocka for Sua and either BMM or Ryan for Ben. Let marshke, Liddle and Kyle play while Ben is watching off the bench and come in if the game close and we need him.

Perfect time to play Hunt and Sua offer the bench

Time for Hunt to play at 9 for 30 minutes

 

[BLM01]

Right on cue Tiger bashing week just before they play us
It’s almost like the media are willing the Tigers to break the 8 game losing streak
Nothing but positivity now for Wayne’s bunnies who are still 17th
Am I just being paranoid or a wedged on Dragon supporter who has seen this movie before..
we are due for our down week!

 

[RedVDave]

Tigpies will be very desperate to it's been what 6 weeks since they've had a win? We will be vulnerable.

 

[Crush]

Tigpies will be very desperate to it's been what 6 weeks since they've had a win? We will be vulnerable.

Their last win was round 4.
I think they’ve lost 8 in a row?
Bateman back yet? If not, we should win.

 

[RedVDave]

Their last win was round 4.
I think they’ve lost 8 in a row?
Bateman back yet? If not, we should win.

With how unpredictable and inconsistent we've been this year I will absolutely not be cocky going into game.

 

[Hound of Dracula]

i suspect the major issue is that Ben Hunt is mainly a right side half

Flanno can play both

Marschke is primarily a right side half

It really doesnt matter the number on their back

It matters what they do set to set in attack and defence ie what are their specific roles

Ben Hunt will stay right side

Marschke may struggle on the left? Flanno is a very good defender most weeks on teh left and moves his team around to set up plays for his no7.......sounds almost back to front doesnt?

But the reality one of the players needs more time in the halves to capitalise on opportunities ie more seconds on the 3rd 4th and 5th tackles.............for me that is Hunt I woud want with more time and space as a half.

I think Hunt is that guy just above the other two right now

In order for Hunt to have more time and space as a half would be for him to allow KF to game manage - but he either can't or won't do. I also don't know much about the left side right side aspects of Hunt, Flanno or Marsche

I just look at the Panthers , everyone knows their role, the system, the structures, the plays, the variable game day plans and their game manager, Cleary, runs the show. Not only does Cleary shine, he ensures he gets the maximum output from every player on the park.

Heaps then leave the club to sign the biggest contracts they've ever signed. But of all whom have been paid the big bucks, which clubs have secured a game breaker from Penrith? - None! (Except perhaps Capewell & Broncos).

We dodged a bullet with Turuva.

Like someone here said about Ben Hornby, Not in tha class of Cleary, Johns, Langer etc, but he could manage a games and bring the best out of the TEAM. He delivered 2010. You know what they say about a champion team V a team of champions?

I honestly believe KF is that sort of a game manager.

Hunt may statistically be better as an individual, but IMO he does not improve the team.

 

[RedVee]

In order for Hunt to have more time and space as a half would be for him to allow KF to game manage - but he either can't or won't do. I also don't know much about the left side right side aspects of Hunt, Flanno or Marsche

I just look at the Panthers , everyone knows their role, the system, the structures, the plays, the variable game day plans and their game manager, Cleary, runs the show. Not only does Cleary shine, he ensures he gets the maximum output from every player on the park.

Heaps then leave the club to sign the biggest contracts they've ever signed. But of all whom have been paid the big bucks, which clubs have secured a game breaker from Penrith? - None! (Except perhaps Capewell & Broncos).

We dodged a bullet with Turuva.

Like someone here said about Ben Hornby, Not State of Origin, didn't play for Australia, but he could manage a games and bring the best out of the TEAM. He delivered 2010. You know what they say about a champion team V a team of champions?

I honestly believe KF is that sort of a game manager.

Hunt may statistically be better as an individual, but IMO he does not improve the team.

Hornby did play a game for Australia

 

[Hound of Dracula]

Hornby did play a game for Australia

Oops - my bad - must be getting old! Just don't remember.

just looked at Wikipedia and it appears I got SOO rep wrong as well

I edited - thanks REDVEE

But it doesn't lessen my argument about Hunt V's KF in game management

 

[redv13]

Their last win was round 4.
I think they’ve lost 8 in a row?
Bateman back yet? If not, we should win.

No Sezer, Bateman, Klemmer, Papali’i . Belt them straight up the middle and be ruthless for 80 mins

 

[Saints Forever]

In order for Hunt to have more time and space as a half would be for him to allow KF to game manage - but he either can't or won't do. I also don't know much about the left side right side aspects of Hunt, Flanno or Marsche

I just look at the Panthers , everyone knows their role, the system, the structures, the plays, the variable game day plans and their game manager, Cleary, runs the show. Not only does Cleary shine, he ensures he gets the maximum output from every player on the park.

Heaps then leave the club to sign the biggest contracts they've ever signed. But of all whom have been paid the big bucks, which clubs have secured a game breaker from Penrith? - None! (Except perhaps Capewell & Broncos).

We dodged a bullet with Turuva.

Like someone here said about Ben Hornby, Not in tha class of Cleary, Johns, Langer etc, but he could manage a games and bring the best out of the TEAM. He delivered 2010. You know what they say about a champion team V a team of champions?

I honestly believe KF is that sort of a game manager.

Hunt may statistically be better as an individual, but IMO he does not improve the team.

Young Flanno is a much better defender than Ben Hunt

 

[BLM01]

No Sezer, Bateman, Klemmer, Papali’i . Belt them straight up the middle and be ruthless for 80 mins

No Tupou, Toa nor Simpkin. Surely this week
But we will still have our 5 out if SOO do not back up
And not sure whether FMolo went Cat 1 HIA last week, meaning he is out too!
Tigers to throw it round. Go hard on Api we should be Ok

 

[Crush]

No Tupou, Toa nor Simpkin. Surely this week
But we will still have our 5 out if SOO do not back up
And not sure whether FMolo went Cat 1 HIA last week, meaning he is out too!
Tigers to throw it round. Go hard on Api we should be Ok

Been here before.
Expected to win = L

 

[since77]

No Sezer, Bateman, Klemmer, Papali’i . Belt them straight up the middle and be ruthless for 80 mins

Is this team capable of being ruthless for 80 minutes? These are the types of games we lose.
Hopefully Flanno can start getting them focussed for longer periods.

 

[Divine]

Been here before.
Expected to win = L

It’s been that sort of year. We were hot to trot leading into Anzac Day and ended up cannon fodder. Then beating the Premiers at home was almost surreal. Back to Earth with the Tigpies or queuing for GF tickets?
Who knows!

 

[jeffdragon]

Watch for Sully'dummy runs and Galvin.
Galvin Is good but his defence is suspect.