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depends if we want to rest the halves in last 2 games
The way Ivan spoke about it seems they won't but I guess they could do it.
depends if we want to rest the halves in last 2 games
Two tries and seven nudie runs in 176 games. At least he got a premiership ring.Run by rotary. Proceeds go to charity.
When at the games I have a running joke from 2003, anyone but Marty lang please.....(as Marty only ever scored about 3 tries in his whole career) I went 1/2 a season in 2003 / 04 where I got dear old Marty every single fortnight.....GRRRRRRR
Two tries and seven nudie runs in 176 games. At least he got a premiership ring.
The way Ivan spoke about it seems they won't but I guess they could do it.
not so much for the starters but guys like Burton surely needs a game before finals. Hasn't started since Round 4. Played limited minutes off the bench
You would think that he gets a bit of game time in the games against the Cowboys & Bulldogs. Especially if we win the next two games and have the minor premiership sewn up
His second game he only played 27 minutes. Over such a small amount of game time that has a huge impact on his averages.On the flip side. ave 99m gained a game. 75% tackle efficiency. Only 3 kick returns
So still plenty to see before it can be said he should be in the top backline
Being in the system awhile doesn't mean they are always a good NRL player
Sivo looked great for a while too. Undoubtedly, management value him higher than Sivo (they didn't want to keep Sivo), but let's wait until he's played a few more games before we make him king.His second game he only played 27 minutes. Over such a small amount of game time that has a huge impact on his averages.
First game he gained 157m.
Second game he gained 47 metres in 27 minutes.
Average it out to an 80 minute performance and it's just shy of 150 metres which is roughly what he gained in his first appearance. So try scoring aside he looks to be around a 150 metre per game winger.
That said what about his strike rate for scoring tries. None of our other wingers have come close so that this year,l
Staines in 100 minutes of football has as many tries as Mansour does in 15 rounds of football. He has 14 linebreaks which indicates we create opportunities for him but his scoring rate is low.
Even Brian To'o on the same wing Staines has played only has 3 tries in 9 games. Half as many tries in nearly 5 times as many minutes.
Now obviously Charlie is not going to be able to sustain close to a strike rate of one try per 20 minutes of football. But it's a safe bet that he would convert more opportunities on average than most other wingers. It's a shame he's not playing this week. If any team is going to give him a chance at another 4 try haul it was the Broncos.
You say that like Sivo has failed and can't be good. Mansour has gone through worse patches of form for extended periods of time. Edwards last year was about as bad as it gets for a while there... Although he bounced back pretty quickly considering how bad he was.Sivo looked great for a while too. Undoubtedly, management value him higher than Sivo (they didn't want to keep Sivo), but let's wait until he's played a few more games before we make him king.
His second game he only played 27 minutes. Over such a small amount of game time that has a huge impact on his averages.
First game he gained 157m.
Second game he gained 47 metres in 27 minutes.
Average it out to an 80 minute performance and it's just shy of 150 metres which is roughly what he gained in his first appearance. So try scoring aside he looks to be around a 150 metre per game winger.
That said what about his strike rate for scoring tries. None of our other wingers have come close so that this year,l
Staines in 100 minutes of football has as many tries as Mansour does in 15 rounds of football. He has 14 linebreaks which indicates we create opportunities for him but his scoring rate is low.
Even Brian To'o on the same wing Staines has played only has 3 tries in 9 games. Half as many tries in nearly 5 times as many minutes.
Now obviously Charlie is not going to be able to sustain close to a strike rate of one try per 20 minutes of football. But it's a safe bet that he would convert more opportunities on average than most other wingers. It's a shame he's not playing this week. If any team is going to give him a chance at another 4 try haul it was the Broncos.
You say that like Sivo has failed and can't be good. Mansour has gone through worse patches of form for extended periods of time. Edwards last year was about as bad as it gets for a while there... Although he bounced back pretty quickly considering how bad he was.
If you wrote every player off for good after a small bit of bad form there wouldnt me many/any NRL players left.
In our roster there has been a line through every player in the team. So picking a random player like Sivo as if he's some sort of failure is laughable. He's still sitting 6th on the try scorers list with twice as many tries as any of our wingers and is playing for a top 4 squad. He's not at peak form right now. But he's not exactly a failure either.
Sivo looked great for a while too. Undoubtedly, management value him higher than Sivo (they didn't want to keep Sivo), but let's wait until he's played a few more games before we make him king.
Sivo has terrible defence and at 27 years old maybe too late to learn.
Different circumstances him and 19yo Staines
To'o scores all those tries he scored. It isn't like he did anything other then run.
As it stands he is the smallest winger in the comp with only 3 Kick returns.
Compare that too To'o aver 13 kick returns a game
Mansour 14 kick returns.
Too small of sample size to say if he can or can't handle that side of the game
Also no idea if defensively he is up to it for sure.
I have no doubt he and Whare will get another game before the finals but neither makes the top side.
Staines with another off season and 5-10kg weight is another story though
As much as i can agree with my panthers hat on, i disagree, its a coin toss between brandon smith, and tom starling, for this yearWouldn't be bad to let Api have another week if needed. Kenny is probably the best back up hooker in the comp.
Definitely thought Capewell would go to the bench for Burns and should make us a little better.
Right. We just happened to create 500% more opportunities while Staines was on the field than we have with To'o. Staines is a bit faster and that tiny bit of extra pace can make a huge difference between scoring or not.To'o scores all those tries he scored. It isn't like he did anything other then run.
As it stands he is the smallest winger in the comp with only 3 Kick returns.
Compare that too To'o aver 13 kick returns a game
Mansour 14 kick returns.
Too small of sample size to say if he can or can't handle that side of the game
Also no idea if defensively he is up to it for sure.
I have no doubt he and Whare will get another game before the finals but neither makes the top side.
Staines with another off season and 5-10kg weight is another story though
You’re forgetting the dive for the corner against the Sea Eagles, that was much more than just running.
Plus
To’o doesn’t set up the try for Edwards that Staines did in the sharks game, no one in our team is capable of that.