Round 21 - The Roosters

[franklin2323]

Burton runs better lines and hits the hole harder

One in particular v Sharks at home.

Cleary sucked 2 or 3 in. Then went to Luai who put it on Burton's chest in a huge gap.

Atleast 5 tries Burton has scored have been like this. The left centre next year will get the same benefit whoever it is

 

[ColdWetPanther]

One in particular v Sharks at home.

Cleary sucked 2 or 3 in. Then went to Luai who put it on Burton's chest in a huge gap.

Atleast 5 tries Burton has scored have been like this. The left centre next year will get the same benefit whoever it is

I would prefer Tago on the left and Crichton on the right; I think you need someone with a little creativity on the right and I think Crichton offers that.

 

[Kilkenny]

I haven’t watched a replay, it was a good win in what was a tough contest. There was’t much between the two sides although in the end I thought we shaded it and deserved to win. We did some dumb things, weren’t fluent in attack by any means but we needed the win which guarantees we will finish in the top three. The Storm are pretty much guaranteed the minor premiership but 2nd or 3rd At least gives us a chance.

 

[Kilkenny]

Someone mentioned so lets compare the 2

Tries
Manu 9
Crichton 7

Try Assists
Manu 5
Crichton 7

Line Breaks
Manu 12
Crichton 6

Run Metres

Manu 126m a game
Crichton 118 a game

Errors
Manu 17
Crichton 19

Penalty conceded

Manu 9
Crichton 7

Tackle %

Manu 74%
Crichton 82%

So Crichton in a 'quiet' year isn't far off Manu. When Crichton learns to run harder then he will carve teams up

On your stats very little in it. Crichton still has some filling out to do and should continue to improve and develop his attacking prowess further. He may well end up getting the fullback role in the coming seasons, the position is up for grabs with Dylan off contract, Turuva still an untried quantity at the top level and Charlie perhaps being better suited in the position.

Manu is a fine player, he was good for the Roosters yesterday, put himself about and tried to make things happen for them. I don’t think he is going to stay with the Roosters for substantially less money, so they may have to cough up more than the $700k a season than he is currently on to keep him.

 

[Kilkenny]

Critical errors at critical times undoes most of his 'hard work'.

He stifles our attack even when he 'makes metres'. How many times do you see Edwards absolutely struggle with defenders and breaking tackles....only for him to get gang tackled and follow up with a very slow PTB?

He'd be better off just getting to ground quickly on his chest and getting a quick PTB. Might shave a few metres in his Post contact metres stats and also a few tackle breaks BUT he'd get our line moving far more quickly.

There were at least a half dozen cases tonight where he done this and it was avoidable.

It’s like anything, you see what you want to see. You see the negative in Dylan Edwards others see the positive, it’s human nature.

Its like the Charlie Staines one on one missed tackle You mention in your following post Where Girds called him out. It’s easy to be critical, he probably makes that tackle 9/10, this was the one he missed, it happens and Tupou is a very fine winger. No player in our side deserves to be held accountable for one dropped ball, one missed tackle or whatever mistake it may be. We win as a team and we lose as a team.

I think our best 17 currently has Dylan at fullback, whether he keeps his position in 2022 is an entirely different question and it may well be time to move on.

 

[DinkyDi]

Impressive debut, hopefully, we see some more, this year?

 

[Kilkenny]

Impressive debut, hopefully, we see some more, this year?

As Kev07 pointed out only recently not sure why we allowed the other brother Terrell to go the Sea Eagles feeder club in Blacktown. He too could really develop into a top notch front rower, I know we can’t keep them all, but prior to the suspension of NSW Cup he was performing really well.

 

[franklin2323]

On your stats very little in it. Crichton still has some filling out to do and should continue to improve and develop his attacking prowess further. He may well end up getting the fullback role in the coming seasons, the position is up for grabs with Dylan off contract, Turuva still an untried quantity at the top level and Charlie perhaps being better suited in the position.

Manu is a fine player, he was good for the Roosters yesterday, put himself about and tried to make things happen for them. I don’t think he is going to stay with the Roosters for substantially less money, so they may have to cough up more than the $700k a season than he is currently on to keep him.

Manu is a great player but very limited where as Crichton has a huge ceiling. Needs to find a home and stay there

 

[franklin2323]

I would prefer Tago on the left and Crichton on the right; I think you need someone with a little creativity on the right and I think Crichton offers that.

Crichton should be on the right all year that seems to be his spot now. You also need something off the bench too. As far as spark and Tago as edge 2nd rower does that too

 

[Kilkenny]

Impressive debut, hopefully, we see some more, this year?

Thanks Di, enjoyed watching it.

 

[DinkyDi]

Thanks Di, enjoyed watching it.

The raw emotion from Tyrone was heart tugging. No worries.

 

[Kilkenny]

Manu is a great player but very limited where as Crichton has a huge ceiling. Needs to find a home and stay there

Very limited? How do you come to that conclusion? I would have thought he has everything you would want from an outside back who can slot in at fullback if required?

 

[Smug Panther]

Very limited? How do you come to that conclusion? I would have thought he has everything you would want from an outside back who can slot in at fullback if required?

Not trying to bag Critta who did yet better at fullback but Manu shits all over him in that position at this point

 

[Kilkenny]

Not trying to bag Critta who did yet better at fullback but Manu shits all over him in that position at this point

I think Crichton is is only going to improve, Manu is the finished article. He is an elite player, one of the best in the game.

 

[Black Diamond]

The raw emotion from Tyrone was heart tugging. No worries.

I watched this earlier tonight and it struck me how raw Tyrone was about what his family had been through and just by his emotion feel he is so remorseful for his actions. His tears of pride for his brother was extremely emotional

 

[Westernised Panther]

That Kikau ball to Burton for the first try, reminded me of a similar pass Geyer threw to Paul Smith in a game against Easts in 91. I think Carter ended up scoring the try that day.

I still have that game on VHS! It was indeed Carter who scored that try. The MG pass to Smith was magic.

Penrith went on to win that game 32-6.

 

[franklin2323]

Very limited? How do you come to that conclusion? I would have thought he has everything you would want from an outside back who can slot in at fullback if required?

Where would he sit as far as speedy for a back? Certainly lacks the ball playing skills can he kick? Runs hard, great motor, few mistakes but certainly has a smaller ceiling than guys like Staggs, Best, Critter etc

 

[franklin2323]

Not trying to bag Critta who did yet better at fullback but Manu shits all over him in that position at this point

He is a great centre but FB is stacked he'd be mid table if he goes back there. Certainly not worth the $1m rumoured

 

[betcats]

Someone mentioned so lets compare the 2

Tries
Manu 9
Crichton 7

Try Assists
Manu 5
Crichton 7

Line Breaks
Manu 12
Crichton 6

Run Metres

Manu 126m a game
Crichton 118 a game

Errors
Manu 17
Crichton 19

Penalty conceded

Manu 9
Crichton 7

Tackle %

Manu 74%
Crichton 82%

So Crichton in a 'quiet' year isn't far off Manu. When Crichton learns to run harder then he will carve teams up

Exactly and if you look at their line break assists critta is above Manu there. Also their career try averages critta is averaging more despiste Manu playing in a team that went back to back. Critta is a better defender that’s obvious already.

Manu is obviously a better ball runner and overall he is the better player but he’s 5 years older and played more than double the games. Crichton is still working some things out but he’s hugely skilled and a great defender already. What will he be at 25? He could be anything.

 

[DinkyDi]

I watched this earlier tonight and it struck me how raw Tyrone was about what his family had been through and just by his emotion feel he is so remorseful for his actions. His tears of pride for his brother was extremely emotional

What May did was repulsive. I do not see him doing that again.