Round 5 Vs Eels

[John Hamblin]

No I don’t have to back Ivan Cleary, he’s an average coach at best and always will be.

He got the Worriers to the Grand Final and with a lot of no names we beat a good Roosters side in the 2014 final series. Whilst I admit he is no Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett our team is shaping up well this year considering Whare and Aekens offer nothing in attack. The best thing about our team is they are playing as a TEAM. Enough said.

 

[Panther Mick]

Has anyone asked the big I what the deal is with Naden?

There was some Fox Sports rumour floating around he did his Hammy in the warm-up against Newcastle.
Yet, he was named the following week and was seen warming up an hour before kick-off against the Warriors.
The Hayden Knowles tweet was interesting.

 

[Kilkenny]

He got the Worriers to the Grand Final and with a lot of no names we beat a good Roosters side in the 2014 final series. Whilst I admit he is no Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett our team is shaping up well this year considering Whare and Aekens offer nothing in attack. The best thing about our team is they are playing as a TEAM. Enough said.

I understand the point Herbert is making. I don’t think there were too many on here who thought bringing Ivan Cleary back to the club was the right thing to do going forward.

I just think, regardless of our opinions about his pedigree as a head coach, we as supporters need to back him 100%. Surely we wan’t him to be successful, we want our team to be successful so on that basis let’s just get behind him and if nothing else hope for the best.

We will surely be in a better position to judge given we have a few tough games coming up. See how we perform in the next couple of weeks and then we will all be better placed to comment on how we shape up going forward.

From my perspective, I think despite our lack of strike power in the outside backs I really think we need to get Lenui fit and get him into the 17. He could be our X factor more than what we offer, of don’t offer in our outside backs.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

There was some Fox Sports rumour floating around he did his Hammy in the warm-up against Newcastle.
Yet, he was named the following week and was seen warming up an hour before kick-off against the Warriors.
The Hayden Knowles tweet was interesting.

Crighton at this stage has jumped ahead of Naden in the centre rankings. When Critta plays he looks so very special. Naden is good. Critta is special.

 

[franklin2323]

Soon hopefully.

It will hard while we are winning but his chance will come. I would rather he put in the work to get his jersey back then get it by default

 

[chrisD]

I understand the point Herbert is making. I don’t think there were too many on here who thought bringing Ivan Cleary back to the club was the right thing to do going forward.

Yeah, everyone wanted Wayne B, hah.

 

[Kilkenny]

Yeah, everyone wanted Wayne B, hah.

I was never in the Wayne Bennett fan club! Personally, I would have gone for a younger up and comer. It’s history now, Ivan is our coach and happy to back him 100%.

 

[WestyLife]

Peter Lang article talking about the roster discussion among fans.

https://westernweekender.com.au/2020/06/lang-on-league-nadens-time-will-come/

 

[franklin2323]

You only have to look at my Ivan is a dud thread to know I don’t rate him.

The big difference we will see this year is Barrett.

Ricky Stuart showed last year that terrible coaches can go well

 

[herbert henry1908]

Has anyone asked the big I what the deal is with Naden?

Not sure. Seems to be he wasn’t very fit when he came back from the break.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Shame you feel that way!

Surely, it is in our best interests to support and back our coach, regardless of what you think about his capabilities?

As I said at the time, he wouldn’t have been my choice to return to the club as head coach, but he is here, we have to suck it up and as it happens we have had a decent start to 2020.

You don’t have to back him, I will choose to do so 100% for the best interests of the club, team, supporters and hope he delivers the success we all crave for.

If I thought backing him would make one bit of difference then maybe, but I doubt it would. I’d prefer to speak honestly about what I see.

Ultimately I’m a fan of the club, not Ivan Cleary.

 

[herbert henry1908]

He got the Worriers to the Grand Final and with a lot of no names we beat a good Roosters side in the 2014 final series. Whilst I admit he is no Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett our team is shaping up well this year considering Whare and Aekens offer nothing in attack. The best thing about our team is they are playing as a TEAM. Enough said.

He’s had 13 years as a coach. Coached his teams to the top 4 twice, been to one grand final and has a 47% win rate. The worst all time among coaches with more than 300 games.

He’s bog average.

 

[Tronald Crump]

Peter Lang article talking about the roster discussion among fans.

https://westernweekender.com.au/2020/06/lang-on-league-nadens-time-will-come/

He is a bit of hit and miss that dude.

 

[chrisD]

The media narrative on Burton is cringe. He has not been sensational, he's been present behind a dominant pack.

 

[Tronald Crump]

If I thought backing him would make one bit of difference then maybe, but I doubt it would. I’d prefer to speak honestly about what I see.

Ultimately I’m a fan of the club, not Ivan Cleary.

I'm the same.
I don't rate Ivan either. Love the club and hope it goes well whoever is coach, but he had his go here and it didn't work out.
His record is indicative to that.

The only difference this time around is Gould is not sticking his beak into things, but I still have my concerns.
For the clubs sake I hope he goes better this time around. Last year was disappointing.
Even an bog average coach can rise to the top occasionally.
I hope its this year.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I'm the same.
I don't rate Ivan either. Love the club and hope it goes well whoever is coach, but he had his go here and it didn't work out.
His record is indicative to that.

The only difference this time around is Gould is not sticking his beak into things, but I still have my concerns.
For the clubs sake I hope he goes better this time around. Last year was disappointing.
Even an bog average coach can rise to the top occasionally.
I hope its this year.

If an average coach gets a good squad things can go well. We’re not too far from a good squad, definitely a good forward pack. But the backs are a concern.

 

[Tronald Crump]

If an average coach gets a good squad things can go well. We’re not too far from a good squad, definitely a good forward pack. But the backs are a concern.

Backs need tweaking and the attack could use a bit more polish. Both will need to be done if we are to beat the top sides.

 

[John Hamblin]

He’s had 13 years as a coach. Coached his teams to the top 4 twice, been to one grand final and has a 47% win rate. The worst all time among coaches with more than 300 games.

He’s bog average.

Time will tell BUT if someone had told you we were unbeaten after 4 rounds INCLUDING beating the Roosters I am sure at least 99 per cent of supporters would be happy with that . Lets be positive

 

[Kilkenny]

If I thought backing him would make one bit of difference then maybe, but I doubt it would. I’d prefer to speak honestly about what I see.

Ultimately I’m a fan of the club, not Ivan Cleary.

Honesty is the best policy so they say.

What you see is for the most part vastly different to what I see.

I for the most part see the positive side of things and you somehow always seem to find the negative position. That’s just you I guess it’s just what you see, the negative, always the negative.

 

[franklin2323]

We have an assistant with FG experience. Something top sides needs it is why Barrett is the understated factor here