Round 9 | Roosters 24-6 Knights @ Allianz | Sunday 3pm

[perverse]

Rusty, you're a dead set tit. Mullen is one of the few reasons we're not 0-9. Just about everything that we get right comes off him. Has been nothing but great for us this year. Just because he isn't a halfback that can carry the world on his shoulders doesn't mean he's not an extremely valuable asset. Is playing behind a well beaten pack at the moment and still playing well. You can't possibly ask for any more than he is giving except if you're expecting him to be Andrew Johns.

 

[The Showstopper]

Mullo has done enough to be our 6 for life. City Country was a game where he was too passive. He needs more arrogance in his game. Just a little ''give me the f"###ing ball now " like our Joey demanded and got. He is getting there though.

 

[Rusty]

Lol. If he's our 'star performer' we are knee deep in shit. Which is where we are. Players like Johnson, Maloney and Corey Norman have already made a stamp on the game. How long have they been playing FG for? Now compare it to Mullen. The players mentioned are 'star performers'. They make all the difference in their teams. Mullen can't steer the team nor organise it. My opinion, so stop the insults.

 

[perverse]

are you saying that Mullen hasn't had as good a run as any of the blokes you just mentioned? when in form, Mullen is any of their equals. hell, Maloney isn't travelling that well this year anyway. totally played himself out of origin contention. Mullo would be well ahead of him as far as origin goes this year.

Johnson is the only one of those blokes who i would say definitively has more potential and more raw talent than Mullen. he could be anything. that, however, is not an argument that Mullen is bad. in fact, if all 3 of those blokes were, in fact, as far ahead of Mullen as you seem to think then it still isn't an argument that Mullen is bad. Tahu isn't as good as a shitload of centres running around, but geez he's playing well and is an asset to our team. Houston has about 10,000 second rowers ahead of him, but i wouldn't trade him for just about anything. it's a flawed argument from the outset.

are you also saying Mullen doesn't make a difference in our team? we would have barely won a match without him this year. if that isn't a difference i don't know what is... unless you want to sit there and claim that we would have won as many, or more games with a combination of Stig, Roberts or Davis.

also keep in mind those other halves you mentioned have halves partners worth more than their weight in dogshit, too. Mullen is about midway as far as 5/8ths go. nowhere near the bottom of the pile, struggles to reach the top, though. with a permanent, competent halves partner that doesn't change every other week he could probably go up another level. he's nevre had that in his entire career, though. he has always had to make it all himself.

nope, i'm sorry, you're still a clown... and your last post only reinforces that.

 

[Rusty]

are you saying that Mullen hasn't had as good a run as any of the blokes you just mentioned? when in form, Mullen is any of their equals. hell, Maloney isn't travelling that well this year anyway. totally played himself out of origin contention. Mullo would be well ahead of him as far as origin goes this year.

Johnson is the only one of those blokes who i would say definitively has more potential and more raw talent than Mullen. he could be anything. that, however, is not an argument that Mullen is bad. in fact, if all 3 of those blokes were, in fact, as far ahead of Mullen as you seem to think then it still isn't an argument that Mullen is bad. Tahu isn't as good as a shitload of centres running around, but geez he's playing well and is an asset to our team. Houston has about 10,000 second rowers ahead of him, but i wouldn't trade him for just about anything. it's a flawed argument from the outset.

are you also saying Mullen doesn't make a difference in our team? we would have barely won a match without him this year. if that isn't a difference i don't know what is... unless you want to sit there and claim that we would have won as many, or more games with a combination of Stig, Roberts or Davis.

also keep in mind those other halves you mentioned have halves partners worth more than their weight in dogshit, too. Mullen is about midway as far as 5/8ths go. nowhere near the bottom of the pile, struggles to reach the top, though. with a permanent, competent halves partner that doesn't change every other week he could probably go up another level. he's nevre had that in his entire career, though. he has always had to make it all himself.

nope, i'm sorry, you're still a clown... and your last post only reinforces that.

'When in form', are you implying he is not in form? You couldn't be though, because that would mean you're agreeing with me. I'm stating that we've been waiting for this 'form' for too long FYI. What do you make of Norman, who you conveniently left out of your reply. Care to check the stats. Actually how about you check Normans, Johnson's. Pearce's and Widdops stats and then compare them to Mullen's. Mullen is not capable of playing under pressure, he shit's in his pants (see the City V Country game). Who was his halves partner again? Oh thats right Carney.

As far as Mullen goes, it's only ever excuses. Like the ones offered above. No decent halves partner the forwards struggling blah blah. Then when we find ourselves in decent field position, it's bombs away and dassit. Because that's all he's got in his trick bag.

 

[perverse]

'When in form', are you implying he is not in form? You couldn't be though, because that would mean you're agreeing with me. I'm stating that we've been waiting for this 'form' for too long FYI. What do you make of Norman, who you conveniently left out of your reply. Care to check the stats. Actually how about you check Normans, Johnson's. Pearce's and Widdops stats and then compare them to Mullen's. Mullen is not capable of playing under pressure, he shit's in his pants (see the City V Country game). Who was his halves partner again? Oh thats right Carney.

As far as Mullen goes, it's only ever excuses. Like the ones offered above. No decent halves partner the forwards struggling blah blah. Then when we find ourselves in decent field position, it's bombs away and dassit. Because that's all he's got in his trick bag.

i'm implying that until this year his form has been erratic. rocks and diamonds. he has been absolutely great this year, in case you hadn't been watching. he's taken the #6 jersey with open arms and never looked back.

he was playing halfback in CvC. he isn't a halfback. he's a 5/8th. he needs to be wide of the ruck. it took Bennett a mere 4 weeks to pick it, and i'd bet my left nut we'd need an absolutely abominable injury crisis to ever see Mullen in the 7 again. he's in form right now ffs! just watch our games! you can't possibly sit there and say Mullen has been anything but fantastic since switching to 5/8th this year. you just can't, because it isn't true. he has been everything we need him to be and a little bit more than that, too.

Mullen has been our best player this year. you're advocating we get rid of him. it's nonsense. he's a below average halfback, but a well above average 5/8th. it's been the plain truth of his career. he may not be a rep star, but that doesn't mean he's shit, and it certainly doesn't mean we should entertain your nonsense idea of getting rid of him. your opinion is based on a fantasy you've constructed for yourself. watch him play, it's all there right in front of you.

 

[Yosh]

If Joey had played 2 or 3 more seasons (not even at God Mode but just average Joey mode), Mullen would be one of the best 5/8ths around. He has not been in the best enviornment to fulfill his potential.

Sh*t coaching
sh*t facilities
sh*t circumstances
sh*t team mates

If he came through the Storm system, he'd be the new Australian 5/8th.

He is a prime example of what was wrong with the club. Hopefully WB can figure it out so our best juniors not only stay at the club but many grow and play to their potential.

 

[perverse]

well said, Yosh. you are absolutely right. Mullen has had absolutely zero go his way during his career. i definitely agree with you that if Mullen came through the Storm system he would probably be right up there as one of the best in the business. you can probably throw in playing year after year with stuff like sternum injuries and whatnot. we should appreciate the fact that Mullen has played as much football as he has over the past few years... much of it injured significantly.

Rusty, you can call it excuses all you like. unfortunately it's also all true.

 

[Rusty]

i'm implying that until this year his form has been erratic. rocks and diamonds. he has been absolutely great this year, in case you hadn't been watching. he's taken the #6 jersey with open arms and never looked back.

he was playing halfback in CvC. he isn't a halfback. he's a 5/8th. he needs to be wide of the ruck. it took Bennett a mere 4 weeks to pick it, and i'd bet my left nut we'd need an absolutely abominable injury crisis to ever see Mullen in the 7 again. he's in form right now ffs! just watch our games! you can't possibly sit there and say Mullen has been anything but fantastic since switching to 5/8th this year. you just can't, because it isn't true. he has been everything we need him to be and a little bit more than that, too.

Mullen has been our best player this year. you're advocating we get rid of him. it's nonsense. he's a below average halfback, but a well above average 5/8th. it's been the plain truth of his career. he may not be a rep star, but that doesn't mean he's shit, and it certainly doesn't mean we should entertain your nonsense idea of getting rid of him. your opinion is based on a fantasy you've constructed for yourself. watch him play, it's all there right in front of you.

He's in form? You're suggesting in the context of the team, I'm suggesting in the context of the competition. Which is the point I'm trying to get across. Fantastic is an exaggeration btw.

Mullen needs to control the game. That's it. I don't feel like he is capable of it.

The thing I was most looking forward to, in regards to Bennett, is his coaching influence on Mullen. I'm still looking forward to it.

 

[Yosh]

He's in form? You're suggesting in the context of the team, I'm suggesting in the context of the competition. Which is the point I'm trying to get across. Fantastic is an exaggeration btw.

Mullen needs to control the game. That's it. I don't feel like he is capable of it.

The thing I was most looking forward to, in regards to Bennett, is his coaching influence on Mullen. I'm still looking forward to it.

I'm not taking sides but I think you're expecting too much of Mullen. He isn't an organizer. Why does he have to be?

When you watch Whiddup for the Storm, he doesn't do no organizing. He just runs the ball and kicks. The organizing is done by Cam Smith and Cronk. We need a Cronk and Cam Smith in our team.

 

[Rusty]

Someone has to be? Are you going to give that responsibliity to a rookie like Roberts now that Gids it out? He tries to control the game but hardly achieves a result.

I want him to reach his potential, I really hope he does. We need a spark in the team. Especially now.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Again Rusty, you seem to be the only one on here who thinks that

Not much more needs to be said that pervy has not already covered

Enjoy being wrong

 

[Rusty]

So because I'm the only with a different opinion, I'm wrong? Then what the hell are forums for douchebag? So we can all sit here and agree with each other?

 

[perverse]

he is controlling games as best as he possibly could be expected to given our forwards. his long kicking game has been super tremendous for us this year.

we're barely making 20-30m some sets. we spend very little time outside our half of the field? what on earth does he need to do for you to give him a pass mark, Rusty? please, explain it to me without a vague "he needs to control the game better". well, his touch finders have been brilliant, his 40/20 the other week was EXACTLY when we needed it... it was sublime... his tries alone have either got us into matches or kept us in them. he has been coming up with some massive, massive plays this year... and doing it every week. his team is letting him down... it's there for all to see. it's right in front of you. go watch some replays. seriously.

 

[perverse]

So because I'm the only with a different opinion, I'm wrong? Then what the hell are forums for douchebag? So we can all sit here and agree with each other?

it's JW's opinion that you're wrong. an opinion that he's entitled to and an opinion that I share. don't play the "i'm entitled to my opinion" card, it's not going to get you anywhere. it's a total fallacy of this world that all opinions are equal, and that we're entitled to any opinion, even in the face of logic and fact. it's the reason that religion is still thought highly of by millions.

just because you have an opinion, does not mean it is equal. you need to back it up. thus far you've been completely incapable. don't blame us for your opinions shortcomings.

 

[Rusty]

he is controlling games as best as he possibly could be expected to given our forwards. his long kicking game has been super tremendous for us this year.

we're barely making 20-30m some sets. we spend very little time outside our half of the field? what on earth does he need to do for you to give him a pass mark, Rusty? please, explain it to me without a vague "he needs to control the game better". well, his touch finders have been brilliant, his 40/20 the other week was EXACTLY when we needed it... it was sublime... his tries alone have either got us into matches or kept us in them. he has been coming up with some massive, massive plays this year... and doing it every week. his team is letting him down... it's there for all to see. it's right in front of you. go watch some replays. seriously.

Well maybe when we're in attacking field position maybe try something other than bombing it every single time. Perhaps like grubbers and forcing a repeat set. A little more unpredictability may go along way. Taking the ball at the line at the right time i.e other than on the 4th tackle.

Seriously, massive plays? Do you watch other NRL games or what? Shit, shit and shit. Maybe try watching other NRL games and your definition of a 'massive play' might change a little.

 

[Rusty]

it's JW's opinion that you're wrong. an opinion that he's entitled to and an opinion that I share. don't play the "i'm entitled to my opinion" card, it's not going to get you anywhere. it's a total fallacy of this world that all opinions are equal, and that we're entitled to any opinion, even in the face of logic and fact. it's the reason that religion is still thought highly of by millions.

just because you have an opinion, does not mean it is equal. you need to back it up. thus far you've been completely incapable. don't blame us for your opinions shortcomings.

Incapable of proving that Mullen falls behind other halves in the comp? Check the stats and prove me wrong.

 

[perverse]

what kind of argument is that? because he's not better than every half in the comp, we have to ditch him?

do you only judge players on stats? my oh my... fantasy league player, are we? pick up Mullen in your draft and he's just not cutting it? of course his stats are going to be behind a lot of halves you dope, look at how our team is travelling. you want him getting 3 try assists, 5 line breaks and 10 tries from inside our own 20 do you? do you even think before you post at all? read less stats and watch more games. he can't do much bogged down in our own half. Mullen is coming up trumps whenever given the opportunity. twice this year he has kept us in the game with individual tries of his own. he's doing everything possible out there short of picking up Snowden, Richie and Tui and carrying them over the advantage line himself. he can't be all 13 men on the field. there's only 1 man i've ever seen that could do that, and it's f**king slack to expect it from anyone else.

in fact, it was slack of us to "expect" it from him for so long... but we did, and freakishly enough he delivered every time. Mullen isn't Johns. Mullen isn't the best half in the comp. get over it, he's still an extremely valuable asset, he's playing well and trying his guts out. giving it a real good shake.

 

[perverse]

additionally - even if i did care what the stats say, which i really don't... the onus is hardly on me to go and research and prove your point. you're the one making outlandish claims - do your own f**king research.

 

[Rolla]

Stats don't tell the whole story, but even they don't support you. I am too lazy to dig them up, but i recall an article before city country that pointed to Mullen as a 5/8 leading opta-stats scores for all NSW halves (7's & 6's).