Round three vs The Storm

[Luke Bowden]

Only two Panther players were non juniors. This is a pleasing omen.

Surely we aren’t claiming Kiks?

 

[Jane Murray]

Surely we aren’t claiming Kiks?

Good point. He did make his senior debut for the Panthers though.

 

[The_Frog]

It didn't matter in the end, but the bunker ruling that it was OK for the Storm lead runner to take Kikau out could have cost us the match, and was clearly incorrect. You can't just knock over players in the defence line.

Also I'm not so sure they got the To'o no try decision correct, I'll take a closer look a bit later.

 

[GongPanther]

It didn't matter in the end, but the bunker ruling that it was OK for the Storm lead runner to take Kikau out could have cost us the match, and was clearly incorrect. You can't just knock over players in the defence line.

Also I'm not so sure they got the To'o no try decision correct, I'll take a closer look a bit later.

Storm player only made contact with To'o's neck area when he was going for the line. Ashley Klein vid ref BTW.

 

[WestyLife]

It didn't matter in the end, but the bunker ruling that it was OK for the Storm lead runner to take Kikau out could have cost us the match, and was clearly incorrect. You can't just knock over players in the defence line.

Also I'm not so sure they got the To'o no try decision correct, I'll take a closer look a bit later.

To'o definitely had a foot out.

 

[Pomoz]

Surely we aren’t claiming Kiks?

He joined the Cowboys when he was 19, but he debuted at the Panthers. Gus talked about how raw he was when he arrived and they put a plan in place to develop him and improve his stamina and turn him into a player that can play big minutes. He played as prop at the Cowboys and was the Toyota cup prop of the year. When he joined the Panthers he played in our NSW cup team for a year and was developed as a second rower.

 

[snickers007]

It didn't matter in the end, but the bunker ruling that it was OK for the Storm lead runner to take Kikau out could have cost us the match, and was clearly incorrect. You can't just knock over players in the defence line.

The obstruction rule as it's applied in the NRL is trash, and completely overthought.

Obstruction is defined as the illegal act of impeding an opponent who does not have the ball.

But they have gone and added a whole bunch of layers on top of that, such as catching a pass on the outside shoulder, passing before running behind the player, and not being able to gain an advantage if causing an obstruction etc.

Advantage is defined as allowing play to proceed if it is to the advantage of the team which has not committed an offence. Further notes indicate that advantage can be interpreted as either tactical or territorial. Simply having possession of the ball can be deemed as gaining an advantage - but it's never applied that way.

Last night Tyrone May gave himself up after an obstruction (so he wouldn't gain an advantage). We retained the ball 40m out from the Storm line, with another couple of tackles up our sleeves to potentailly score points or force a repeat set etc. Melbourne as the infringed team, gain nothing - despite us obstructing their defence.


Kikau being taken out was no different to Edwards getting taken out - yet one is cleared, while the other pulled up. Why?

You're right, it would have cost us the game - and just minutes after the video ref also screwed up the short kickoff decision - although I'm not sure if he have ruled Kenny offside based on the Captain's Challenge guidelines. Basically it's just balls up after balls up by the Bunker.

 

[Panther Pete]

He joined the Cowboys when he was 19, but he debuted at the Panthers. Gus talked about how raw he was when he arrived and they put a plan in place to develop him and improve his stamina and turn him into a player that can play big minutes. He played as prop at the Cowboys and was the Toyota cup prop of the year. When he joined the Panthers he played in our NSW cup team for a year and was developed as a second rower.

No doubt if The Roosters bought him under these circumstances they would claim him as one of their juniors but unless he moved from Cambridge Park to Townsville when he was 18, he is definitely not a Panthers junior.

 

[Jane Murray]

No doubt if The Roosters bought him under these circumstances they would claim him as one of their juniors but unless he moved from Cambridge Park to Townsville when he was 18, he is definitely not a Panthers junior.

He made his debut as a Panther.

 

[snickers007]

He made his debut as a Panther.

He played U20s for the Cowboys. That U20s comp was considered a senior competition.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Great game, I loved it, we had a ball.

few things that stood out to me.
-Edwards - in the 1st half, we field for a genuine stars, he was the best player on the park. I don’t care what anyone says, I super happy he’s our fullback, he’s really developing his game.

-Tmay - I know I bang on about him a lot, but last night he really showed why I believe he’s the best utility in the game. Slotted straight in FB which he hasn’t played since U20’s and did such a good job. Maybe not in attack, but his defence and chat out the back was game saving. He has such a good footy brain.

-Yeo - if he’s not the blues 13, Freddy is kidding himself.

So happy with the gutsy win, they really made me proud.

Hopefully the boys pull up better than expected and we move onto Manly

 

[Luke Bowden]

He joined the Cowboys when he was 19, but he debuted at the Panthers. Gus talked about how raw he was when he arrived and they put a plan in place to develop him and improve his stamina and turn him into a player that can play big minutes. He played as prop at the Cowboys and was the Toyota cup prop of the year. When he joined the Panthers he played in our NSW cup team for a year and was developed as a second rower.

did you watch him play for the cowboys? He spent most the game on the left edge. He was only named at prop because of his size.

I personally don’t think we can claim Kiks.

 

[Luke Bowden]

To'o definitely had a foot out.

yeah, that was pretty clear

 

[franklin2323]

Great game, I loved it, we had a ball.

few things that stood out to me.
-Edwards - in the 1st half, we field for a genuine stars, he was the best player on the park. I don’t care what anyone says, I super happy he’s our fullback, he’s really developing his game.

-Tmay - I know I bang on about him a lot, but last night he really showed why I believe he’s the best utility in the game. Slotted straight in FB which he hasn’t played since U20’s and did such a good job. Maybe not in attack, but his defence and chat out the back was game saving. He has such a good footy brain.

-Yeo - if he’s not the blues 13, Freddy is kidding himself.

So happy with the gutsy win, they really made me proud.

Hopefully the boys pull up better than expected and we move onto Manly

In these cases. They probably won't train for a few days and rest up.

 

[WestyLife]

Great game, I loved it, we had a ball.

few things that stood out to me.
-Edwards - in the 1st half, we field for a genuine stars, he was the best player on the park. I don’t care what anyone says, I super happy he’s our fullback, he’s really developing his game.

-Tmay - I know I bang on about him a lot, but last night he really showed why I believe he’s the best utility in the game. Slotted straight in FB which he hasn’t played since U20’s and did such a good job. Maybe not in attack, but his defence and chat out the back was game saving. He has such a good footy brain.

-Yeo - if he’s not the blues 13, Freddy is kidding himself.

So happy with the gutsy win, they really made me proud.

Hopefully the boys pull up better than expected and we move onto Manly

With every game this year Edwards is looking better and better. Really angry about the injury.

 

[Fangs]

A fit Burton plays. you move as few as possible. Wouldn't surprise if Burton into FB to save a reshuffle

I would’ve thought Burton would be a better option in the centres on the left, with Crichton to FB.

Salmon was 19th man this week.

To'o definitely had a foot out.

Live I thought it may of been on the hand of the Storm player. But To'o wasn't complaining afterwards.

 

[mxlegend99]

Last night Tyrone May gave himself up after an obstruction (so he wouldn't gain an advantage). We retained the ball 40m out from the Storm line, with another couple of tackles up our sleeves to potentailly score points or force a repeat set etc. Melbourne as the infringed team, gain nothing - despite us obstructing their defence.

We didnt gain an advantage from our obstruction. We took the tackle and Storm got to hold him down and reset their defensive line.

 

[Luke Bowden]

With every game this year Edwards is looking better and better. Really angry about the injury.

Out for a month by the sounds of it.

 

[Jane Murray]

Out for a month by the sounds of it.

Yeah you're right. The Panthers have confirmed the news.

 

[Jane Murray]

I could watch this all day.
https://fb.watch/4s_5Mj99yH/