Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent

[SpaceMonkey]

Would love to smash the wanker who wrote that shit song

Umm isn’t it an old slave song from the American South? Poor bastard who wrote it probably had enough problems without you wanting to deck him, not his fault pommy rah-rags stole it!

 

[Maximus]

The post was about both but sure the less said about English clubs the better (it was to show the money isn’t trickling down to English clubs by the way)

did you know the French tv deal is 65 percent less than the nrls ? (185 mill vs 430 mill)

in a nation close to 3 times the size of Australia

with a crowd average 20 percent higher

maybe now you will get it

Why did you use a 6 year old article to claim it's not that popular now?

And then why did you immediately try to deflect to English clubs when called out on it?

 

[BODISGOD]

The Top 14 should be enjoying thier best ever year, hosting the WC will have a massive knock on effect to the local comps. Let's hope the league WC has a positive effect for league in France.

With this whole ' see the world ' argument people forget you can play league professionally in England and France and the NRL is going to Vegas baby !!! And that's infinitely better than anywhere Union plays

Unfortunately Super League salaries aren’t really good enough anymore.

There is no question that people will travel and work if they can enjoy similar remuneration.

 

[Wb1234]

Unfortunately Super League salaries aren’t really good enough anymore.

There is no question that people will travel and work if they can enjoy similar remuneration.

Did you enjoy the games today ?

 

[BODISGOD]

Did you enjoy the games today ?

Unfortunately Sky won’t show Anzac Day fixtures despite it being one of the most important days of the NRL calendar! Caught the highlights at lunchtime there.

 

[Chimp]

The thing that pisses me off is that this is the only way RU gets any attention - hanging off the coat tails of the NRL. So, I’m with Gus, as soon as they sign with Union, get them out of our game.

Here’s an idea I floated on the Sharks forum on how you do it without the clubs being able to rort it, and without the players being able to just hide it until the last minute;

This dickhead that is running the ‘Rugby Australian’. He’s clearly using the Suallii signing as a promotional tool for RU, and keeps making inflammatory remarks about the NRL just to get into a media spat, to keep himself and RU in the media and feeling relevant. I think we should banish any player who signs with RU to reserves so RU get no development and no airtime from stealing RL players. I’d also say player contracts should all actually be NRL contracts, and their actual NRL contract should be for 1 year longer than their actual club deal, that way, players can’t sign on with RU on the sly to avoid being stood down. So if you sign a 3 year deal with a club for a total of $1m, it’s actually a 4 year NRL contract, and would be paid at $250k per year. If you don’t sign with another NRL club before the end of the 3 years, you’re sat not playing for 12 months on $250k. If you sign with RU 2 years into the deal; you’re in reserves and rotting for 2 years. I’m also more than happy for NRL to pay the wages for players being forced to rot, and clubs getting salary cap dispensation.

I actually think moving to a contract system like that would also have other unintended benefits, such as players who fail to land a new deal will still have 12 months of salary payments to help adapt to ‘normal’ life. The clubs don’t pay any extra, it’s just that whatever they agree with the player is actually given to the player over a total period of 1 year longer (eg club agrees $1m over 3 years which they pay to NRL, player actually gets it paid directly by NRL but over 4 years, so $250k per year). It would also make salary cap rorting easier to identify, as all monies going to the player should be going through the NRL, so any payments to a player outside of that would be easier to scrutinise. Would also make dodgy deals stand out more to the NRL (eg Wighton turning down 1.1m and then being paid 800k).

Appreciate it’s a bit ‘out there’ and would be unlikely to get through RLPA and legal bods, but what are peoples thoughts?

Would make players think twice about going if we also said they were never welcome back.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

To put it into perspective how small rugby is in South Africa, it's seen as a 'boer sport ' meaning 98% of the population will never watch it.

To watch rugby it's similar to here, you need pay television and then pay a further pay wall for the Rugby channel. In a country as dirt poor as Sth Africa I can only imagine what tiny percentage of homes have the rugby channel.

Like the majority of the globe Soccer is thier religion, cricket and rugby are waaaay down the list.

Yes, I lived in Argentina for a couple of years and I can tell you no one gives a shit. It's like Union in many countries... extremely niche

 

[taste2taste]

There is no question that people will travel and work if they can enjoy similar remuneration.

As discussed ad nausseum on this thread 50% love the travel 50% hate it. For every James Maloney there is a Matt Rogers.

For example Nelson Asofa turned down rugby and the chance to see the world for the 2nd time in his career to stay home at Melbourne....but maybe Payne Haas will jump at the chance and accept a Top 14 contract to live abroad.

 

[Wb1234]

As discussed ad nausseum on this thread 50% love the travel 50% hate it. For every James Maloney there is a Matt Rogers.

For example Nelson Asofa turned down rugby and the chance to see the world for the 2nd time in his career to stay home at Melbourne....but maybe Payne Haas will jump at the chance and accept a Top 14 contract to live abroad.

Players like the money union offers

if it’s high enough to cover the headaches of touring they will do it

league players get to see England and France and nz

where else do the wallabies play that the kangaroos don’t it’s all bs

 

[Exsilium]

The international game with RU would be appealing. It's more frequent and you've got more chance of being on the main stage in RU than RL.

 

[Wb1234]

The international game with RU would be appealing. It's more frequent and you've got more chance of being on the main stage in RU than RL.

So being a little bit famous in England for 2 weeks is supposed to make up for being a nobody in Sydney and Brisbane for the other 50 weeks ?

 

[Exsilium]

So being a little bit famous in England for 2 weeks is supposed to make up for being a nobody in Sydney and Brisbane for the other 50 weeks ?

Its a bigger and more developed stage. For some players, being in that fold means something.

How many players want (wanted) to play for the All Blacks? Ponga, RTS come to mind.

Players like Beale played RL and went to RU. Koroibete was a decent winger in RL, went to RU and put on the gold jersey. The progression into top tier international sides is more open than RL. They rotate squads more than RL.

I enjoy RU and while I love league, RU has made a lot of improvements to grass roots development.

 

[Wb1234]

Its a bigger and more developed stage. For some players, being in that fold means something.

How many players want (wanted) to play for the All Blacks? Ponga, RTS come to mind.

Players like Beale played RL and went to RU. Koroibete was a decent winger in RL, went to RU and put on the gold jersey. The progression into top tier international sides is more open than RL. They rotate squads more than RL.

I enjoy RU and while I love league, RU has made a lot of improvements to grass roots development.

Which league player left for that rather than money ?

why did the aru pay suaallli 2.5 times his roosters contract if being a little bit famous in England meant anything

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Players like the money union offers

if it’s high enough to cover the headaches of touring they will do it

league players get to see England and France and nz

where else do the wallabies play that the kangaroos don’t it’s all bs

NRL players are chomping at the bit to visit Argentina lol. There might even be a military coup I’d they’re lucky.

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[Babyface O'reilly]

The ARU are seriously overestimating League players if they think travel is a lure and let’s be honest - they don’t. Who are the dilettante merkins in the NRL that would love to go for walks along the Champs-Élysées or the indulge in the treasures of the Louvre? I bet every player to a man would rather to go to Vegas if the game gets that junket up.

 

[Wb1234]

The ARU are seriously overestimating League players if they think travel is a lure and let’s be honest - they don’t. Who are the dilettante merkins in the NRL that would love to go for walks along the Champs-Élysées or the indulge in the treasures of the Louvre? I bet every player to a man would rather to go to Vegas if the game gets that junket up.

Or Thailand or Bali

 

[Exsilium]

Which league player left for that rather than money ?

why did the aru pay suaallli 2.5 times his roosters contract if being a little bit famous in England meant anything

A RU junior who got a paid internship into professional sport with one of the best run clubs defected back to what he was training his life to play? Tickle me pink mate.

Having graduated from a GPS school, I can tell you first hand that RU is promoted heavily and if you're half decent, you'll get a look in. He is made for Rugby.

He went to Kings College, a solid RU school with a history of producing good players. I am not surprised he went back.

RU signed him on potential, no different to a dozen RL players in the modern era. He is also a marketing tool in the battle between codes.

 

[t-ba]

Umm isn’t it an old slave song from the American South? Poor bastard who wrote it probably had enough problems without you wanting to deck him, not his fault pommy rah-rags stole it!

The English?

Stealing Shit?

Sounds about White.

 

[Wb1234]

A RU junior who got a paid internship into professional sport with one of the best run clubs defected back to what he was training his life to play? Tickle me pink mate.

Having graduated from a GPS school, I can tell you first hand that RU is promoted heavily and if you're half decent, you'll get a look in. He is made for Rugby.

He went to Kings College, a solid RU school with a history of producing good players. I am not surprised he went back.

RU signed him on potential, no different to a dozen RL players in the modern era. He is also a marketing tool in the battle between codes.

He’s a rugby league junior

try again

 

[taste2taste]

I enjoy RU and while I love league, RU has made a lot of improvements to grass roots development.

Genuine question.... but.... what are the improvements Union have made to grass roots ?