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Rugby League is dying

2150_souLJA

Juniors
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If you can't see there is a problem with the NSW team's culture then I can't help you.

Why is that QLD can always pick their best team regardless of skin colour.

Why is that guys like Blacklock, Jennings, Choc, Preston Campbell and Nathan Merritt always overlooked because they were too "small", "not disciplined enough", "not good defenders". Or is it because they were too black.

Indigenous players have always faced far tougher odds to make the NSW team, that is obvious. Choc speaks sh*t sometimes but hes on the mark this time.

The NSW team culture has driven Choc to another sport, driven Tahu to abandon Origin.

how much more damage do they have to do before people wake up and say hey there's a proble.
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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Players shouldnt have to make a "stand" against racism. This is 2010.

The fact racism at all exists within the camp shows the racist and bogan culture thats killing the game right now.

Ahh, the old "corpse of Rugby League" = first pronounced clinically dead by John O'Neill and the ARU back in 1997. It's been taken off life support, suffering terminal rape of Coffs Harbour, multiple Salary Cap lacerations, bleeding of the superstars to other codes, and a thousand other injuries from which it will never recover. Silly thing, the heart keeps pumping, and next Wednesday the blinding light of the Soccer World Cup will be suddenly shut out by events at Suncorp. Don't leave for the funeral just yet - you'll be there for a while.

In my soccer coaching days I met a soccer nut in his 60's who grew up in Malta, and represented his country in an under 18's international in Italy, where the crowd threw darts at him and his teammates.

No racism in soccer is there you twat!
 

2150_souLJA

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Come on those were just neonazi fans who were using the World Cup to push their agenda and get attention.

Why you can compare minority fans to the administration of our game is beyond me.Johns is meant to be a coach, as in provide a positive influence and set a good example for the players.
 

LeagueXIII

First Grade
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If you can't see there is a problem with the NSW team's culture then I can't help you.

Why is that QLD can always pick their best team regardless of skin colour.

Why is that guys like Blacklock, Jennings, Choc, Preston Campbell and Nathan Merritt always overlooked because they were too "small", "not disciplined enough", "not good defenders". Or is it because they were too black.

Indigenous players have always faced far tougher odds to make the NSW team, that is obvious. Choc speaks sh*t sometimes but hes on the mark this time.

The NSW team culture has driven Choc to another sport, driven Tahu to abandon Origin.

how much more damage do they have to do before people wake up and say hey there's a proble.

Don't tell Laurie Daley will you....oh he is an aboriginal you know:sarcasm:
 

ParraEelsNRL

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RL had the first Aboriginal Captain of a National side decades before any other sport.

RL had the first Aboriginal to captain a club team in a Premiership winning side.

RL was also the first sport to have Aboriginals leave this country and play professional sport in another country.

RL played test matches against the Maori decades before other sports would even consider picking more than a token player.

RL has never banned anyone playing the game because of their race or religion.

RL has never got into bed with movements like Apartheid and Nazis.

RL has never had to use a quoter system so that other races get a fair go in the sport.

As far as I'm concerned, RL is a leader in sport and has a damn proud history compared to most others, a few idiots don't change this except if you're a troll.

Why'd you ignore my post 2150_souLJA?
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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If you can't see there is a problem with the NSW team's culture then I can't help you.
Everyone can see that - but it's doesn't mean the code will die numbnuts.

Why is that QLD can always pick their best team regardless of skin colour.
They don't always pick their best team - in fact half their 3/4 line is from NSW :lol:

Why is that guys like Blacklock, Jennings, Choc, Preston Campbell and Nathan Merritt always overlooked because they were too "small", "not disciplined enough", "not good defenders". Or is it because they were too black.
Jennings got picked last year, and Choc got picked as well. You could argue about David Fairleigh and Mario Fenech not getting gurnseys too. Just because a player doesn't get picked doesn't mean it's race based. Besides, they picked Tahu, didn't they?

Indigenous players have always faced far tougher odds to make the NSW team, that is obvious. Choc speaks sh*t sometimes but hes on the mark this time.
Choc wouldn't know his arse from his tit. He ignores the fact that he was kept out of the blues 6 jumper by another indigenous player - and one that was far better than he was.

The NSW team culture has driven Choc to another sport, driven Tahu to abandon Origin.
Chocs ego went to another sport and he with it. Chocs cred is zero anyway - after the Barry Ward incident.

how much more damage do they have to do before people wake up and say hey there's a proble.
As much damage as has been done to your brain perhaps?
 

Willow

Assistant Moderator
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If you can't see there is a problem with the NSW team's culture then I can't help you.
If you can't accept that racism is evident throughout the community, then I can't help you either.

You're deluded enough to think that it is just a rugby league issue... but more than that, it is a NSW rugby league issue.

You blame rugby league, you blame New South Wales, and when confronted with racism in 'the beautiful game', you blamed the Spanish!

There is definitely one racist in this discussion. Here's looking at you kid.

Of course there has been racism in sport. Open your eyes enough to know it is not exclusive to one game.

If you are genuine about anti-racism, then I suggest you choose your battles a bit better than this.
 

sarahk

Juniors
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What a joke. Those players didnt make it because they weren't good enough or there was always someone better than them

What about Hayne, Idris, Tahu and many other 'non white' players that made it to Origin.

Never listen to Choc, he only comes out when he has a fight coming up. If i ever hear sense come out of his mouth ill die of shock!
 

Didgi

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If you can't see there is a problem with the NSW team's culture then I can't help you.

Why is that QLD can always pick their best team regardless of skin colour.

Why is that guys like Blacklock, Jennings, Choc, Preston Campbell and Nathan Merritt always overlooked because they were too "small", "not disciplined enough", "not good defenders". Or is it because they were too black.

Indigenous players have always faced far tougher odds to make the NSW team, that is obvious. Choc speaks sh*t sometimes but hes on the mark this time.

The NSW team culture has driven Choc to another sport, driven Tahu to abandon Origin.

how much more damage do they have to do before people wake up and say hey there's a proble.

f**k it, trolls are fun.

None of the players you mentioned are real superstars, though Blacklock played for Australia, and Mundine and Jennings have played for NSW. Presto has always been behind Mini, Hodgson and Gidley.
 

aussie_q_factor

Juniors
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Original post champ. Wow, more 'League is dying' drivel. I have been hearing this for the last 15 years. Contrary to certain media elements and deluded supporters of others codes (not all of them), League is getting stronger every year.

Go and get back on the Soccer Bandwagon with the rest of the gullible morons.
 

Willow

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I was very pissed off when Blacklock wasn't selected for NSW. He deserved to be there, but it wasn't the first time that a form player was overlooked. It showed that the NSW selectors had NFI. There was a rumour going around that race played a part, but we don't know that. More likely is that Blacklock was simply not in the right boys club.
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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Yet Phil Dukes was picked in the same period as Blacklock's uncle who I believe also missed out. Tingha - one of my favorite players - missed out because his defence was suss, a problem Matt Sing didn't have. Besides, NSW always had options - and still the most glaring omission from a NSW origin jumper has been the very white David Fairleigh.
 
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There is a direct link. Racist/Close Minded countries are insular, they fear foreign competition and direct investment into their countries. In today's globalised econmy, the funds just go elsewhere and insular economy stagnates.

You really think Australia's economy would still be posting gains if we didn't relax the immigration policy for the last decade? lol


Spain has the second highest per capita immigration rate in the EU with 10% of the population born overseas. For several years the government has operated a very relaxed immigration policy, including granting legal amnesty to about 800,000 undocumented immigrants. Those from Latin America, Eastern Europe and Northern Africa, were particularly involved in the construction boom which fueled much of the country's economic growth. I can't see how Australia's immigration policies are any more enlightened or 'relaxed' than Spain's policies?

Racism in Spain is just as prevalent as elsewhere in Europe, the only difference is that PC movement has less traction within Spanish society and that's why people like Aragones can make off-handed bigoted remarks with seeming impunity. Of course, he would have been excoriated by the sanctimonious media in countries like UK, Switzerland, Germany, Austria and France where at the same time, right-wing anti-immigration populism is flourishing.
 
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Sleep

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You can point your fingers at other codes all you like but no code f**ks up as consistently and as badly as the NRL does.

Every year they manage to come up with some new way to fumble the ball and there is a huge drama that gets played out in the media.
 

Willow

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Yet Phil Dukes was picked in the same period as Blacklock's uncle who I believe also missed out. Tingha - one of my favorite players - missed out because his defence was suss, a problem Matt Sing didn't have. Besides, NSW always had options - and still the most glaring omission from a NSW origin jumper has been the very white David Fairleigh.
lol. Good point about Matt Sing.

Ainscough was selected ahead of Blacklock. Bizarre considering they were team mates and Blacklock was by far the better finisher. Wingers shouldn't be selected on their defence, and besides, Tingha was a fine defender. It's a myth that he couldn't tackle - he was no better or worse than most outside backs.
 
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