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Shaun Hewitt

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Personally, I'd rather we give Ata a crack, we still have Lino here as well. Lino has shown glimspes but needs a decent chance. More so, Ata needs a chance.
 

Iafeta

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Lino I think lacks the pace required. Teams can hold off him easily at NRL level IMO. Luke Keary would be a good fit, but for the love of sweet baby Jesus I hope they make that call after they've tried Ata as the number one standoff. He deserves that much, he has a lot of potential and I felt more of that came to light last year when he felt like he had the backing that he wasn't going back to reserve grade if he so much as looked the wrong way.
 

Rich102

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I hope he stays. But then part of me wants to see him go somewhere where they value him and give him the coaching and support he needs. The kid could be a star.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Incredibly unlikely scenario, like 0.001% chance of happening but because hypothetical is fun.....

Keary signs with us for 2019 before Pearce gets a release/signs with someone else.

What do the Roosters do? Keep Keary for 2018 or release him to keep Pearce?
 

lasir

Juniors
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If we have a shit start to the season Ata could be in the team come round 10 with a new coach
Gee that's a rather negative view, how about the team knuckle down and become the defensive juggernaut SK is going for so they can dominate possesion of the ball and field position to give themselves more opportunity to win games.
Ata will get his chances but it is up to him to seize them and force the coach to keep selecting him.
 
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Gee that's a rather negative view, how about the team knuckle down and become the defensive juggernaut SK is going for so they can dominate possesion of the ball and field position to give themselves more opportunity to win games.
Ata will get his chances but it is up to him to seize them and force the coach to keep selecting him.

We are all hoping for that
 

JJ

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Seriously can't believe how little regard they have for Hingano in particular and Lino if half this chatter is true

Seriously, the pack still looks mud and they're salivating over Green and perhaps Keary?? Green is very solid sure, but how would Keary compliment Johnson??
 
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Seriously can't believe how little regard they have for Hingano in particular and Lino if half this chatter is true

Seriously, the pack still looks mud and they're salivating over Green and perhaps Keary?? Green is very solid sure, but how would Keary compliment Johnson??

We could get both and drop the myth that is SJ. I dunno if SJ is the man to bring home our maiden premiership. He's still invisible with a good forward pack via Kiwis. Ata Green. Keary Green. Dropping SJ would define him or break him. Needs to be done.
 

JJ

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We could get both and drop the myth that is SJ. I dunno if SJ is the man to bring home our maiden premiership. He's still invisible with a good forward pack via Kiwis. Ata Green. Keary Green. Dropping SJ would define him or break him. Needs to be done.
I agree on Johnson, I think, but then I get when others disagree - personally I think he's a downhill skier - but I do see effort, it's just he's been in first grade so long and I am not sure he understands what his role is, and he makes some (too many) horrendous decisions - some of that must come down to coaching - but also he's not an rookie, so must me some responsibility on him too
 
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I agree on Johnson, I think, but then I get when others disagree - personally I think he's a downhill skier - but I do see effort, it's just he's been in first grade so long and I am not sure he understands what his role is, and he makes some (too many) horrendous decisions - some of that must come down to coaching - but also he's not an rookie, so must me some responsibility on him too

You 2 fellas are spot on. I'm not a Johnson hater as comments in the past may seem to give off, but nowhere near a fanboy of his either

I had warmed to his NRL play this season, stills flaws in his game, but couldn't fault any effort which I have plenty of times in the past. Even last night post match, could hear the pain in his voice compared to the others, and I respect that. His general kicking game in the NRL this season improved dramatically, and there were signs there of some game management creeping in at times as well

But he is a serious flat track bully, when the going gets tough, he disappears far too often. If he gets crunched in a tackle early on, the cue goes in the rack. If we look at all the highlights from his career at the death, it is instinctive plays that he has been forced into, rather than classical halfback play engineering something.
I don't think he is made to be a halfback, a running 5/8 or even fullback maybe, but the catch 22 there is that since breaking his leg he seems extra timid and scared of contact so barely runs the ball

The things that baffles me the most I guess, is that for the majority of his time with the Warriors, he has had NZs greatest halfback involved in his coaching. In 7 years of professional play, with Jones around him and his natural ability, we should be talking about a top liner here, not how we are talking about him currently

Have mentioned it many times on here, but when Freddy gave him a tip on the Sunday footy show last season as simple as "get your jersey dirty", SJ came back with a what would he know, I don't care what he says response. Surely if a great of the game says something, you listen and give it respect rather than thinking you know best
 

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