Rumoured and Confirmed Signings - XXV

[Tommy Coco]

I wouldnt say Lafai is a better defender than Morgan, I reckon Munster might be though

 

[Bigfella]

None of them are worse defenders than Morgan. Lafai and Munster are vastly better.

All of them are so much better in every other aspect of the game that all of them are much better players - whether at wing or centre.

 

[Tommy Coco]

I agree, except, Hurrell is a horrible defender and worse than Morgan

 

[Bigfella]

Lol at people scoffing at idris. Especially the "need to aim higher" comment.

We presently have Ryan Morgan as our starting right centre: we cannot aim any lower than that.

At his best idris can beat any defender one on one and even one on two close to the line.

He would offer a thousand times more than our current 1-4 in attack. Can certainly jam in in defence as well.

Injury and commitment are question marks so I would certainly prefer a more consistent and balanced player. But to suggest he's not better than what we have is madness.

 

[hineyrulz]

Lafai and Munster would be great pick ups, doubt we will snag either with both under contract. Idris is 25 and how many clubs had he already been too?? Just don't think RL is his top priority. There is not much out there because we wasted a whole season farting around offering overs to a snail that now won't be here. With the money offered Hoppa/Morgan we could have probably snared guys like Roberts and Simona. Sigh!!

 

[Tommy Coco]

Dont agree with much of your post.

I think 3 isnt it, dogs titans and Penrith. Bellamy seems to be interested in Idris too. There is some fair coaching talent in the mix.

Munster would be worth the cash, all your other names wouldve come with big prices and I dont expect they will have provided value.

Hoppa we spent the year trying to re-neg.

Morgan wouldn't be worth much, and salary wise I wouldn't expect much better.

I think Roberts sounds like a bigger "head case" then Idris and perhaps double the cash.

 

[hineyrulz]

Lol at people scoffing at idris. Especially the "need to aim higher" comment.

We presently have Ryan Morgan as our starting right centre: we cannot aim any lower than that.

At his best idris can beat any defender one on one and even one on two close to the line.

He would offer a thousand times more than our current 1-4 in attack. Can certainly jam in in defence as well.

Injury and commitment are question marks so I would certainly prefer a more consistent and balanced player. But to suggest he's not better than what we have is madness.

Never said that at all, a cardboard cut out of Luke Burt would offer more than Morgan. I've never seen why all thw fuss is made about him, It's he's big with crazy hair i suppose. He's lazy, disinterested and not what the club needs moving forward. But if signing him kept Morgan out of first grade it is still a massive win as far as i'm concerned.

 

[Kornstar]

One day Idris will click and get his shit together, whether he's no longer a footy player or soon, it will happen.

I think of him the same as Taylor, all the potential in the world but just doesn't have the mental capacity to realise it at this stage.

 

[hineyrulz]

Dont agree with much of your post.

I think 3 isnt it, dogs titans and Penrith. Bellamy seems to be interested in Idris too. There is some fair coaching talent in the mix.

Munster would be worth the cash, all your other names wouldve come with big prices and I dont expect they will have provided value.

Hoppa we spent the year trying to re-neg.

Morgan wouldn't be worth much, and salary wise I wouldn't expect much better.

I think Roberts sounds like a bigger "head case" then Idris and perhaps double the cash.

So you expect to pay 1m for Roberts condsidering Idris is on arounf 500k???? Hoppa has been offered anywhere beetwen 600-700k and Morgan on 120-150k means Simona and Roberts on around 400k each wjhich is what they are worth. That was my point why waste a year trying to land a useless overpaid Slug like Hoppa??? when there were plenty of more options out there as soon as he failed at fullback i would of moved on unless he was happy to stay for far less which he was never willing to do.

 

[hineyrulz]

If Idris comes here that will be his 4th club in 6 years, that speaks volumes IMO. Canterbury were happy to see him go which says plenty.

 

[Noise]

We can cross Inu off the list

http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/inu-re-signs-catalans/

 

[The Colonel]

Injury and commitment are question marks so I would certainly prefer a more consistent and balanced player. But to suggest he's not better than what we have is madness.

He is, potentially, better than what we have.

Based on his past however, commitment and injury are massive question marks. He has yet to commit to a team longer than two seasons. He is often injured and his conditioning is a big part of that. He often talks about how little the game really means to him.

On his day he is better than what we have. The question is whether the lack of off days can be outweighed by his on. I don't think they can be and why he is being shopped around once again.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Part of the reason that clubs have been happy to let him go is the coin he has been on. If we have an opportunity to sign him on significantly less $$$, that compensates massively for the risk involved.

 

[84 Baby]

The only one who is a better defender than Morgan is Lafai.

I find your love for Morgan's defence as confusing as Bigfella's hate.
Time and again he shoots and doesn't wrap up the ball. For a centre, that equals try time

 

[Tommy Coco]

agreed but one is less emotional

 

[Bigfella]

He is, potentially, better than what we have.

Based on his past however, commitment and injury are massive question marks. He has yet to commit to a team longer than two seasons. He is often injured and his conditioning is a big part of that. He often talks about how little the game really means to him.

On his day he is better than what we have. The question is whether the lack of off days can be outweighed by his on. I don't think they can be and why he is being shopped around once again.

Fair enough, I understand that school of thought.

 

[Bigfella]

The other point is that the Duke obviously rates him...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lol at people scoffing at idris. Especially the "need to aim higher" comment.

We presently have Ryan Morgan as our starting right centre: we cannot aim any lower than that.

At his best idris can beat any defender one on one and even one on two close to the line.

He would offer a thousand times more than our current 1-4 in attack. Can certainly jam in in defence as well.

Injury and commitment are question marks so I would certainly prefer a more consistent and balanced player. But to suggest he's not better than what we have is madness.

It's not about going out desperately looking for 'better'. Under a salary cap t's about better-at-the-right-price, which is why not-as-good-but-better-value is sometimes a superior choice.

Attitude is also a potentially huge negative, though with all the leadership we have in next year's squad we can probably afford to take a punt on a shit attitude.

I'd be happy with Idris, at the right price, which would mean Penrith paying some freight.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Dont agree with much of your post.

I think 3 isnt it, dogs titans and Penrith. Bellamy seems to be interested in Idris too. There is some fair coaching talent in the mix.

Munster would be worth the cash, all your other names wouldve come with big prices and I dont expect they will have provided value.

This is the point most people miss.

 

[Noise]

This is the point most people miss.

You don't think it's possible that their current club might pay some freight? Or is it only us that does that?