Rumoured and Confirmed Signings - XXV

[hineyrulz]

Cam Smith missed a GF for a headlock tackle. Was illegal but did not hurt anyone.

Isaac Luke last year too IIRC.

So "deserves" should not be in the mix.

Cam Smith tried to rip third mans head off, he got two weeks should of been more. I would of loved to seen the grub rubbed out and miss the GF but I can see why he was let off.

 

[Gronk]

Whatever they allegedly tried to have inserted in the contract but failed to do so is not really relevant is it? Couldn't possibly be a bit of bluster trying to distract from the fact that a duly appointed officer of our club, acting in his normal capacity, signed a contract with the player on our behalf which we are trying to squirm out of.

I see Judge Barry has already made his decision.

 

[Bigfella]

And I see the apologists are just believing what they want to believe regardless of the mounting body of evidence that suggests that:

A. We offered him absolutely f**king ridiculous overs;
B. We signed a contract with him on that basis;
C. We later reneged;
D. He has sued us.

The head in the sand brigade just says this is all bullshit. Meanwhile one of our players is suing us in the Supreme Court.

People were denying that he had sued. The other day pou even denied we would have offered him overs.

There is obviously a dispute. You can't imagine that Hopoate would have sued without a written agreement - they are the only type that the NRL can register.

Plus there have been public statements from the club trying to blame the former CEO for this situation.

 

[strider]

Judge Strider concurs with Judge Barry

 

[Gronk]

And I see the apologists are just believing what they want to believe regardless of the mounting body of evidence that suggests that:

A. We offered him absolutely f**king ridiculous overs;
B. We signed a contract with him on that basis;
C. We later reneged;
D. He has sued us.

The head in the sand brigade just says this is all bullshit. Meanwhile one of our players is suing us in the Supreme Court.

People were denying that he had sued. The other day pou even denied we would have offered him overs.

There is obviously a dispute. You can't imagine that Hopoate would have sued without a written agreement - they are the only type that the NRL can register.

Plus there have been public statements from the club trying to blame the former CEO for this situation.

My position is that you cannot make sound conclusions when you have only heard one side of the argument.

You have been fed shit from Hoppa's manager and have deemed that enough to side with him.

It may well be that he does not hold the position that you think.

As for blame, that can be asserted after the matter is resolved.

My preferred outcome is that we f**k him off, hopefully without paying any of his freight. AND even if we do reach a settlement which does involve tipping in some coin, it may well be the best decision commercially for the club.

No point being all dirty about it. Business is business IMHO.

 

[Twizzle]

Gee we have a lot of magistrates here.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And I see the apologists are just believing what they want to believe

So no different to the witch hunters. You merkins believe any negative press you can find. You thrive on it.

People were denying that he had sued. The other day pou even denied we would have offered him overs.

I'm sure we offered him overs. That would be why we've pulled the offer.

I just don't reckon we offered as much as reported.

 

[hineyrulz]

If those figures are remotely true, Jesus tap dancing Christ. He's not even worth half the money that they are suggesting we offered him. As soon as he failed miserably at fullback I would of moved on from him instead we offer him s ridiculous deal. But thank god that lunatic Seward is gone and we now have good governance.

 

[Twizzle]

My position is that you cannot make sound conclusions when you have only heard one side of the argument.

You have been fed shit from Hoppa's manager and have deemed that enough to side with him.

It may well be that he does not hold the position that you think.

As for blame, that can be asserted after the matter is resolved.

My preferred outcome is that we f**k him off, hopefully without paying any of his freight. AND even if we do reach a settlement which does involve tipping in some coin, it mayenerally its all about well be the best decision commercially for the club.

No point being all dirty about it. Business is business IMHO.

Most of the so called leaks to the media allegedly come from players agents who generally are the lowest form of life and its all about the money imo.

Personally I dont trust them and when you consider the fact that they leak stories to their low life media scumbags its very hard to assume they are reporting the situations accurately.

In any case you are right about only hearing one side but I wouldn't expect the club to report on any of this until negotiations are completed and I certainly wouldn't expect the media to report on any of our negotiations as it wont sell chip wrappers like a law suit scandal will.

 

[Avenger]

I'm am certain that if you offered this amount to any centre in the game he would take it. I would even suggest that a total of $675k per year is higher than what Hodges, Jennings is on. Seriously what that f**k were they thinking?

 

[Avenger]

So no different to the witch hunters. You merkins believe any negative press you can find. You thrive on it.



I'm sure we offered him overs. That would be why we've pulled the offer.

I just don't reckon we offered as much as reported.

Unless there are suppression orders the amount will be revealed in the civil court hearing. Let's wait and see shall we?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Isn't that what we always do?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I see Judge Barry has already made his decision.

No decision regarding the outcome of the case, but....we are trying to squirm out of it. If we weren't we would register the contract in existence. Who is disputing the fact that a contract was signed by both parties?

 

[Avenger]

Isn't that what we always do?

Not really we as a group discuss it and then you take the road less travelled because that is the way you roll.

 

[Gronk]

No decision regarding the outcome of the case, but....we are trying to squirm out of it. If we weren't we would register the contract in existence. Who is disputing the fact that a contract was signed by both parties?

Is this a fact ? Or are we simply holding a contract signed by Hoppa ?

Is it offer and acceptance ? This with the issue of delegated authority is the root of the case.

Maybe Proszenko can update us.

"Squirm" suggests that we are being manipulative. What if Hoppa's manager is the one being manipulative and opportunistic ? Applying the heat to a club who are publicity shy ATM and facing the wrath of negative opinions ?

EDIT: Back on the Qn of when is a contract a contract:

The crushing news for Takairangi, who only signed the deal with the Tigers last month

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...9w-1227083175092?from=gold+coast+bulletin_rss

Wonder if it has ever been tested ?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

And I see the apologists are just believing what they want to believe regardless of the mounting body of evidence that suggests that:

A. We offered him absolutely f**king ridiculous overs;
B. We signed a contract with him on that basis;
C. We later reneged;
D. He has sued us.

The head in the sand brigade just says this is all bullshit. Meanwhile one of our players is suing us in the Supreme Court.

People were denying that he had sued. The other day pou even denied we would have offered him overs.

There is obviously a dispute. You can't imagine that Hopoate would have sued without a written agreement - they are the only type that the NRL can register.

Plus there have been public statements from the club trying to blame the former CEO for this situation.

I have no idea what happened but just as you mentioned Hoppa wouldn't sue without a written contract, the club is also unlikely to let it get this far without probably receiving legal advice they may win.

One day we may find out the truth

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Whatever they allegedly tried to have inserted in the contract but failed to do so is not really relevant is it? Couldn't possibly be a bit of bluster trying to distract from the fact that a duly appointed officer of our club, acting in his normal capacity, signed a contract with the player on our behalf which we are trying to squirm out of.

Some dude from the TheFilthySpammers who seems very reliable with his info, is certain there is no signed legal NRL contract.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Some dude from the TheFilthySpammers who seems very reliable with his info, is certain there is no signed legal NRL contract.

What does that mean? Just that the contract wasn't forwarded to the NRL to be registered? That's not in dispute.

Or do they reckon that nobody from our club signed it?

 

[strider]

What does that mean? Just that the contract wasn't forwarded to the NRL to be registered? That's not in dispute.

exactly!!!

I'm on judge barry's bandwagon!

 

[Joshuatheeel]

What does that mean? Just that the contract wasn't forwarded to the NRL to be registered? That's not in dispute.

Or do they reckon that nobody from our club signed it?

Have no idea just posting what I read from TheFilthySpammers. Don't normally post half the crap that is posted over there but one dude that seems to have contacts like Stagger suggested "there is no contract" and we will be fine.