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Rumoured/Confirmed Signings 2011/2012

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Eels Dude

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If you saying the club made a mistake once by doing that your quite happy for that same mistake to be made again. It's obvious you have an axe to grind or some political motives

spartan talks a lot of gibberish. Yet his overall point is relevent. If the admin admits it's made a mistake, well then state so. Otherwise how are we all to know if they actually believe they've made a mistake.

I want all the best for the club I support, but I don't think any of us deserve to be kep in the dark especially if we're investing in the club via memberships etc.
 

Ratchy

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totally disagree, while we don't have the points to show it, we have definitely improved on last year. Each game last year we didn't know which eels side would show up, now while we aren't just there yet, the side is starting to be competitive in each game we play. You can see there are structures being put in place. But the big thing to remember and not forget last year we had:

- a fit poore
- Grothe
- Tahu
- Keating
- Inu
- Mateo

and what have we replaced them with ? yeah but that is Kearney fault because he did not seek replacements before he was even signed as the eels coach. You are seriously not looking at the whole picture. You cannot compare apples with oranges.

Put those 6 players into our current eels side, then you can compare if Kearney has improved the side.

Stop it your talking sense :lol:
 

Poupou Escobar

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Because we've gone backward from last year not forward. So while moving forward with making the decision to hire a new coach, we've moved backward performance wise because of it.

We've gone backwards because of all the players we've let go, not because of replacing the coach.

If we'd kept Grothe, Tahu, Inu and Mateo we'd be doing better on the competition ladder but we'd be in the same position we were in last year. We also wouldn't be able to afford what we've really needed for the past ten years, which is a halfback.
 

Eels Dude

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His 20 year reputation of professionalism and leadership didn't start after he retired.

His reputation as a player is only a grain of sand on beach as to what it takes to be a first grade coach. If it were that easy then we'd a have a lot of former players handing out their resumes for first grade coaching positions.
 

spartan2153

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spartan talks a lot of gibberish. Yet his overall point is relevent. If the admin admits it's made a mistake, well then state so. Otherwise how are we all to know if they actually believe they've made a mistake.

I want all the best for the club I support, but I don't think any of us deserve to be kep in the dark especially if we're investing in the club via memberships etc.

I don't talk gibberish truth hurts most of the time. If the board had the balls to tell us the truth then we would be a lot more accepting of our situation
 

Ratchy

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spartan talks a lot of gibberish. Yet his overall point is relevent. If the admin admits it's made a mistake, well then state so. Otherwise how are we all to know if they actually believe they've made a mistake.

I want all the best for the club I support, but I don't think any of us deserve to be kep in the dark especially if we're investing in the club via memberships etc.

I'll pay my membership year in year out because i'm a supporter no matter what as i have supported the club as long as i can remember.

None of us know for a fact yet whether or not whether recruitment is finished so it's too early for anyone from the club to comment. But when it is done i agree something official should be commented on about signings and why about what is planned for the future as well.
 

Eels Dude

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totally disagree, while we don't have the points to show it, we have definitely improved on last year. Each game last year we didn't know which eels side would show up, now while we aren't just there yet, the side is starting to be competitive in each game we play. You can see there are structures being put in place. But the big thing to remember and not forget last year we had:

- a fit poore
- Grothe
- Tahu
- Keating
- Inu
- Mateo

and what have we replaced them with ? yeah but that is Kearney fault because he did not seek replacements before he was even signed as the eels coach. You are seriously not looking at the whole picture. You cannot compare apples with oranges.

Put those 6 players into our current eels side, then you can compare if Kearney has improved the side.

As I said earlier you can look at it from both angles.

Last year we had a disinterested Inu and Tahu. Grothe who missed over half the season through injury. An inconsistent Mateo and Keating (who was no better than Morts I might add). Really our squad is no worse than last season if you're going down that path.

I think it's a sad fact that some people like you think just being 'competitive' is good enough. Not winning in six weeks but saying "oh it's ok we didn't lose by that much". Fair dinkum. It's light at the end of the tunnell we're not getting thrashed but it's hardly anything to get excited about.
 

Ratchy

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If we'd kept Grothe, Tahu, Inu and Mateo we'd be doing better on the competition ladder but we'd be in the same position we were in last year. We also wouldn't be able to afford what we've really needed for the past ten years, which is a halfback.

That alone imo would think appease the mass somewhat as he really he was by and away the best player for what Parra needed most.

As for having poor recruitment in general, really the players available weren't that great to choose from.
 

Eels Dude

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We've gone backwards because of all the players we've let go, not because of replacing the coach.

If we'd kept Grothe, Tahu, Inu and Mateo we'd be doing better on the competition ladder but we'd be in the same position we were in last year. We also wouldn't be able to afford what we've really needed for the past ten years, which is a halfback.


True to an extent, but do you think those players should have been let go considering the circumstances? I do personally.
 

Ratchy

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True to an extent, but do you think those players should have been let go considering the circumstances? I do personally.

Yes agree with that but surely there must be a plan in place to replace those players which their didn't seem to be.....and i don't wanna hear the 2 Coopers as examples.
 

Poupou Escobar

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U are now on record. No 8 next year I expect you to sign a petition for a new coach. Bellamy is the man

But I didn't think Anderson should have been sacked either.

In hindsight I trust the board to act in their own best interests and get the coaching staff they believe will bring the best on-field performances. Especially now there's so much money in the game.

If they sack Kearney then I trust them but I'm not going to call for his head.
 

Eels Dude

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I'll pay my membership year in year out because i'm a supporter no matter what as i have supported the club as long as i can remember.

None of us know for a fact yet whether or not whether recruitment is finished so it's too early for anyone from the club to comment. But when it is done i agree something official should be commented on about signings and why about what is planned for the future as well.


You do that. And good on you for doing that it's certainly something worth respecting. But not everyone is going to think along the same lines as you do. But there's only a handful of the 10,000 members or so who frequent this site.

If the club wants to get them to sign up again, or attract new ones they need to change their current attitude of keeping everything in the dark. There is an isolation between the Parramatta club and members/ potential members right now.
 

spartan2153

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Yes agree with that but surely there must be a plan in place to replace those players which their didn't seem to be.....and i don't wanna hear the 2 Coopers as examples.

Well that was the plan from ozzie last year. He even took cooper to dinner with hayne i recall
 

Joshuatheeel

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True to an extent, but do you think those players should have been let go considering the circumstances? I do personally.


yep agree, but that is the whole point who did we replace those players with ? there was no plan who we would replace them with, and it was not like we had premiership winning under 20's and reserve grade sides. Kearney never had the benefit of those players in his side, and while the players mentioned are hot and cold they definitely had class. Kearney instead of those players and the opportunity to improve the side with those players in side is left with;

Walker
Hicks
Whaitura
Aktins (who has been solid but not in Grothe's class)
McGuire (been good, but would Keating offer more?)
Webb ( Would Mateo offer more ?)
 

Eels Dude

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Yes agree with that but surely there must be a plan in place to replace those players which their didn't seem to be.....and i don't wanna hear the 2 Coopers as examples.

I think whatever plan there was happened to be derailed by inter clup politics and constant leaks. I don't think any recruitment strategy would have gone to plan the way the club was acting all last year.
 
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