Rumoured/Confirmed Signings 2011/2012

[CrazyEel]

You're right, who would want a nuffie coach whose only achievement is taking both NRL clubs he has previously coached to grand finals.....

Apparently no one!

 

[Eels Dude]

Which is why he served a fairly lengthy apprenticeship.

Or he was being paid an average head coaches wages despite being an assistant. It doesn't matter though anymore.

However, if Hindy had the desire to become a coach, he would be one step ahead of so many wannabes exactly because of his reputation. I dare say it would help him get an assistant's job at a big, wealthy club like Melbourne.

It could. Definately would. He's be about 2 or 3 steps ahead. But if he were handed that role it would be for the wrong reasons.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It could. Definately would. He's be about 2 or 3 steps ahead. But if he were handed that role it would be for the wrong reasons.

How would it? A bloke's strength of character should be the first thing looked at when determining if he'd make a good coach.

Note I said 'strength of character', not 'force of personality'. After that there's a lot of factors that make a good coach, but most of them can be learned.

If a bloke has captained nearly every team he was ever in I'd say he's already got all the stuff that can't be learned. And from all reports, Kearney is the kind of person who will do whatever it takes to improve himself.

 

[Eels Dude]

How would it? A bloke's strength of character should be the first thing looked at when determining if he'd make a good coach.

Note I said 'strength of character', not 'force of personality'. After that there's a lot of factors that make a good coach, but most of them can be learned.

If a bloke has captained nearly every team he was ever in I'd say he's already got all the stuff that can't be learned. And from all reports, Kearney is the kind of person who will do whatever it takes to improve himself.

No. His ability of coaching should be the first thing considered. Kearney, Hindy, let's just name names as it's irrelevent. There's a difference between coaching juniors and coaching first grade. These blokes need so much more.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Well it looks like SBW is out of the picture.

All Blacks link for SBW
As he prepares to sign for Chiefs

Richard Knowler

July 3, 2011

Sonny Bill Williams ... available for All Blacks duties.
Photo: Getty Images

SONNY BILL WILLIAMS is poised to leave the Crusaders and follow Wayne Smith to the Chiefs next year.

Williams is understood to have sealed a deal with the Chiefs and will announce his one-year tenure with the Crusaders is over after the Super finals.

The Chiefs contract, which is tied to the New Zealand Rugby Union, ensures the player will be available for the All Blacks again next year.

Williams, who will start at second five-eighth for the Crusaders against the Stormers in tomorrow morning's semi-final in Cape Town, has had a good relationship with All Blacks assistant coach Smith since moving to Christchurch from French club Toulon last year.

Smith, who will retire from his All Blacks job after the World Cup, has said he will not have a role in recruiting players but Williams will have found it difficult to resist joining his mentor in Waikato.

Last week Williams also admitted the earthquakes that continue to rock Canterbury would be factored into his decision about his future. Last weekend he donated $100,000 from his recent boxing bout in Auckland to Canterbury Red Cross.

There was speculation Williams could join the Blues so he could be close to his mother in Auckland, but with Ma'a Nonu signing with the franchise he will link with the Chiefs and play alongside All Black Richard Kahui in the midfield.

Although veteran midfielder Tana Umaga is not expected to play for the Chiefs again next year, he could still be involved with the side and remain close to his former Toulon teammate Williams.

The chief executive of the Chiefs, Gary Dawson, confirmed that the club had approached Williams but declined to comment on whether the franchise had secured his prized signature. ''We don't comment on player recruitment and signings. We can't confirm anything,'' he said.

Dawson said it was ''widely known'' Williams was looking at all his options for 2012 and ''we let it be known there was an opportunity for him here''.
He hesitated when asked if the Chiefs had held detailed discussions or negotiations with Williams or his management before saying, ''I have no comment on any discussions''.

A Crusaders spokesman said the club also did not comment on speculation.

Link: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...-for-chiefs-20110702-1gw16.html#ixzz1QxWub1Ep

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No. His ability of coaching should be the first thing considered.

It's not just one ability - 'coaching' - that makes a good coach. There are so many factors that go into it, and you'll never know straight up whether or not a player has 'coaching' ability or not because it doesn't exist on its own.

'Coaching' entails a broad range of skills, and many of them won't be apparent until the coach in question has been tested as a coach. So for a player who's never coached a team before you can only look at what he's already done in his career as a player. These are the factors that will determine if a player should be given a job on a club's coaching staff or not.

The first and most obvious one, the one that should separate the might-bes from the never-will-bes, is the player's leadership.

If the player was never a good leader then he'll never be a good coach. You can put a line through him straight away. No matter how good his tactical nous or his identification of talent, if he's not a leader then he's not head coach material.

Kearney, Hindy, let's just name names as it's irrelevent.

This is just the point, it's not irrelevant. If players are looking at a coach thinking 'who are you?' then there won't be any buy-in. This is why recently retired players, or blokes who played very little first grade struggle to win the players over.

There's a difference between coaching juniors and coaching first grade. These blokes need so much more.

Apparently all they need is 'coaching ability'.

 

[Twizzle]

Esi Tonga and Talmia Tautia both had interest from the Storm, but choose the eels.

they probably wanted to play first grade

 

[boxhead]

they probably wanted to play first grade

Tonga would likely have been a starter in that side (the current one, at least), whether on the wing or at centre.
Tautai....maybe.

By the by, if we aren't signing any more players, then surely we would attempt to re-sign Reddy now??
If we let him go then that points to us wanting to buy another outside back, that or we are happy with Hayne, Burt, Loko, Tonga, and a winger.

 

[IFR33K]

f**k me people. We have made 9000 posts in the 2011/2012 signings thread, and the eels have only officially signed 4 or 5 players.


I will have to upgrade my computer, if we were going to go on a spending spree like the dogs.:lol::lol::lol:

 

[Snoochies]

Apparently we're after Cooper Cronk again. :roll:
Maybe they were talking about our previous attempts. Anyway, an article with Cronk and Parra together.

Rabbitohs, Panthers, Dragons and Eels gearing up for bidding war over Melbourne Storm halfback Cooper Cronk

INCOMING South Sydney coach Michael Maguire intends to make a $2 million play to lure Melbourne halfback Cooper Cronk to the Rabbitohs for 2013.
The Queensland Origin utility is guaranteed to become one of the NRL's top earners when his contract with the Storm expires at the end of next season.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Cronk has been identified as Maguire's top long-term priority, with the pair sharing a close-knit bond from their time at the Storm.
The other ace in the Rabbitohs' negotiations is new assistant coach Matthew Johns, who helped transform Cronk from an emerging NRL super-sub into one of the code's best halfbacks.
Johns will take on a specialist role with the Souths halves next season to continue the strong Melbourne presence at Redfern.
Given Cronk's standing in the NRL, at least three other clubs - Penrith, St George Illawarra and Parramatta - have hatched plans to target the Storm playmaker.


After the Eels signed Rabbitohs halfback Chris Sandow on a $2 million deal for next season, the market value has been set for quality No. 7s.
Souths chief executive Shane Richardson attempted to shoot down the link to Cronk, but The Sunday Telegraph has been assured it is part of Maguire's plan to snare the Queensland star.
"Every club in the comp would be interested in Cooper Cronk, it's a ridiculous question," Richardson said. "I don't know how strong a chance we are and we certainly haven't started negotiations or anything like that.
"It's still 2011, not 2013.
"At this stage, we're going with Adam Reynolds next year and we've got every confidence in him as our halfback."
Since being appointed in May, former Storm assistant Maguire has quickly put a Melbourne stamp in the red and green burrow, recruiting Johns, centre Matt King and high-performance manager Troy Thompson.
Rep stars Michael Crocker, Greg Inglis and King have all come through the Storm's structure.
The Sunday Telegraph understands that Maguire was to create a more ruthless edge in the Redfern bunker. Signing Cronk for 2013 would provide the playmaker needed to take the Rabbitohs to the next level.
Storm chief executive Ron Gauci conceded Cronk would be a priority target for most clubs but maintained Melbourne wanted to keep him.
"It's very early at this point, but he's shown his commitment to the club and we've shown our commitment to him," Gauci said.
Melbourne coach Craig Bellamy is contracted to the Storm until the end of 2013 and could find himself competing with former assistant Maguire for Cronk's prized signature.
The champion halfback also has a get-out clause in his contract should coach Bellamy part ways with the Storm.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ack-cooper-cronk/story-e6frexnr-1226086197412

 

[Eels Dude]

Cronk will be 30 in 2013.... so LOL@50ff$

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No way are we looking at Cronk.

We have Hayne and Sandow. More marquee players than that and we're misusing the cap.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

I reckon we still have heaps of cash to spend.

We had heaps of money last year to try to get Quade. And then we lost Tahu and Grothe. The only player we've signed since is Sandow. Surely he wouldn't be getting what we would have been paying those 3.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We've also signed a handful of depth signings. Add their contracts all together and it's not a negligible amount.

On top of that, Tahu might not have been re-signed anyway if Cooper had come to the club - his re-signing might have been dependent on the amount of cash left over.

Then there's all the contract extensions front-loaded into this year, including first choice Origin prop Tim Mannah.

I don't reckon there's a lot left for next year, and if there is, we need to spend it on a few more depth signings rather than blow it all on one player.

 

[El Diablo]

I reckon we still have heaps of cash to spend.

We had heaps of money last year to try to get Quade. And then we lost Tahu and Grothe. The only player we've signed since is Sandow. Surely he wouldn't be getting what we would have been paying those 3.

we lost Mateo, Inu and Cayless too

all would have been on a bit

 

[Stagger eel]

we're definitely got more to spend, no doubt it, whether we spend it or not is another thing..

 

[Eels Dude]

we're definitely got more to spend, no doubt it, whether we spend it or not is another thing..

Why wouldn't we? It would be a bit silly to not spend up to our salary cap on purpose yet again.

 

[Twizzle]

not sure why we would want Cronk, we already got Sandow

 

[B-Tron 3000]

Why wouldn't we? It would be a bit silly to not spend up to our salary cap on purpose yet again.

If there are no players that they consider long-term prospects, and the players they try and sign to cover for one year want longer than one year deals, then they may choose not to sign them.

 

[Eels Dude]

We've also signed a handful of depth signings. Add their contracts all together and it's not a negligible amount.

On top of that, Tahu might not have been re-signed anyway if Cooper had come to the club - his re-signing might have been dependent on the amount of cash left over.

Then there's all the contract extensions front-loaded into this year, including first choice Origin prop Tim Mannah.

I don't reckon there's a lot left for next year, and if there is, we need to spend it on a few more depth signings rather than blow it all on one player.

Have we? I'd be disappointed if we were paying anything more than the bare mimimum for players like Penese, Paulo, and Tautai. Those spots have to be filled regardless if they're part of the top 25. Whether it be via recruiting or by promoting juniors.