Rumoured/Confirmed Signings and General Drivel XV

[spiderdan]

Trying to get rid of blokes who are on contract is a mug's go. We started that shit in 2009 with Finch and our cap has been f**ked ever since.

What happened in the past was under the auspice of a bunch of dickheads.
Now we have BA, DA & the SS, therefore Allgood is not needed - Gower now fills that roll adequately. Better to have Allgood play elsewhere for 1/2 the $$$$ than playing for full $$$$$ at Wenty.

ummmm Casper, you do get that DA was the guy that (right or wrong) pushed finch out, don't you?

 

[Kornstar]

ummmm Casper, you do get that DA was the guy that (right or wrong) pushed finch out, don't you?

It was the best thing he did while he was here! Never wanted Finch when Hagan signed him, was very happy to see the back of him!

 

[The Elephant In The room]

What happened in the past was under the auspice of a bunch of dickheads.
Now we have BA, DA & the SS, therefore Allgood is not needed - Gower now fills that roll adequately. Better to have Allgood play elsewhere for 1/2 the $$$$ than playing for full $$$$$ at Wenty.

Couldn't disagree more, particularly when it comes to a "lower" paid player. If we put a round figure of $200k pa on Allgood as a contract value (for arguements sake, but it wouldn't be far off IMO), you're saying that you're happy to be paying the first $100k of his salary no matter where he plays (Eels or another club), so then we'd only be paying him the second $100k extra to keep him on the books as a back up. $100k for an ok player with NRL experience is a bargain, considering it would almost cost you that much to put in an absolute rookie in his place (given a minimum salary of $80k).

 

[hindy111]

Hindy111, you need to concentrate on your sex life and getting your mileage points up instead of trying to be the Parra "expert" because Poo is the "only" certified Parra "expert" on this Forum and he has a proven track record to show for it.[/QUOTE]


Ive turned the corner, im on the straight
and narrow. She be comn rnd the mountain when she comes yeah ha cause she'll be coming rnd the mountains when she comes yeah ha:crazy:

 

[hindy111]

Wow since I posted the Sim rumour this thread has really gone uphill

shell be comn rnd the mountains when she comes yeah ha
shell be comn rnd the mountain when she comes yea ha

 

[Pazza]

Say we re sign mannah and gower for next season. Our prop depth would be:

Mannah
Lussik
Mossop
Gower
Terepo
Allgood
Jnr Paulo
Alvaro

With Pauli being able to fill in if needed.

Is this really a position that needs bolstering for 2015? Or so we wait for 2016 when Lussik, Terepo and Allgood are off contract and make a significant move?

 

[spiderdan]

It was the best thing he did while he was here! Never wanted Finch when Hagan signed him, was very happy to see the back of him!

it may well have been, even though I thought finch played ok when he wasn't the primary half.

Was just illustrating to Casper when he claimed in 09 we had dickheads making decisions (in response to pou's point about cap issues starting with finch being pushed out) that the person who made that decision was DA, because casper's post seemed to contradict his own point where he said DA was now here and as is often the case, made f**k all sense.

Casper seems to think the fall of our club is all the fault of the 3p group and seems to dwell on it, when the reality is it doesn't matter what side of our club's politics anyone was aligned with, both sides did good and did damage to the club. Most people seem to have let it go but Casper is one that wants to stay bitter about it.

 

[hindy111]

Is Gower that much better than Allgood? The fact Allgood is on contract and Gower is not means id lean towards keeping Mitch. Gower might be going a little better but Allgood has been ok so far. He has played 5 games-One he went off after 2 mins so realy 4.
Against penrith he was our best prop.
Made 90 tackles for one missed ad one error and we won 3/4 games he has played in.


Intresting MoiMoi has only made over 100 mtrs once this year and missed 13 tackles
Mannah has 6/8 times


Hoppa has missed 30 tackles this year compared too tonga - 7

 

[hindy111]

So everyone has gone off terepo now?

 

[Joely01]

All things being equal, yes, but I don't think Moa is the style of prop we need Joely (assuming Mannah stays). He's the shorter cannonball style prop.

The games I've watched of Moa this year, to me he seems like the perfect type of prop we need.
Consistently bends the line, good speed and offload

 

[Jake the snake]

So everyone has gone off terepo now?

No way still young, he has the power game!!

 

[Kornstar]

it may well have been, even though I thought finch played ok when he wasn't the primary half.

Was just illustrating to Casper when he claimed in 09 we had dickheads making decisions (in response to pou's point about cap issues starting with finch being pushed out) that the person who made that decision was DA, because casper's post seemed to contradict his own point where he said DA was now here and as is often the case, made f**k all sense.

Casper seems to think the fall of our club is all the fault of the 3p group and seems to dwell on it, when the reality is it doesn't matter what side of our club's politics anyone was aligned with, both sides did good and did damage to the club. Most people seem to have let it go but Casper is one that wants to stay bitter about it.

That wasn't an attack, i was just expressing my gratitude that he got rid of Finch, i wasn't even relating it to your post to Casper, my bad

 

[spiderdan]

That wasn't an attack, i was just expressing my gratitude that he got rid of Finch, i wasn't even relating it to your post to Casper, my bad

all good buddy, i didn't take it as an attack, was just clarifying the post. i thought letting go of finch was the right move too. unfortunately as pou pointed out, we did seem to hit a slide around then.

 

[lingard]

Say we re sign mannah and gower for next season. Our prop depth would be:

Mannah
Lussik
Mossop
Gower
Terepo
Allgood
Jnr Paulo
Alvaro

With Pauli being able to fill in if needed.

Is this really a position that needs bolstering for 2015? Or so we wait for 2016 when Lussik, Terepo and Allgood are off contract and make a significant move?

We still don't have any idea - no idea, not a clue, not even a hint or a whisper of an idea - how Lee Mossop will handle the NRL. I hope he does. But he didn't look real impressive to me during the World Cup. Could have been that injury giving him trouble. Or he could be a dud. He looked quite slow, cumbersome and awkward to me. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Eelementary]

We still don't have any idea - no idea, not a clue, not even a hint or a whisper of an idea - how Lee Mossop will handle the NRL. I hope he does. But he didn't look real impressive to me during the World Cup. Could have been that injury giving him trouble. Or he could be a dud. He looked quite slow, cumbersome and awkward to me. Hope I'm wrong.

From the games I watched in the Super League, Mossop is in the David Gower mould, only he lacks Gower's football IQ and skill.

He's a workhorse, but he is able to make good metres from runs.

He is not, however, and explosive and physical tight forward - an area in which we drastically need to improve IMO.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Having lots of props is not a substitute for having a good prop or 2. We need Mannah not to be the only starter quality prop

 

[Eelementary]

Say we re sign mannah and gower for next season. Our prop depth would be:

Mannah
Lussik
Mossop
Gower
Terepo
Allgood
Jnr Paulo
Alvaro

With Pauli being able to fill in if needed.

Is this really a position that needs bolstering for 2015? Or so we wait for 2016 when Lussik, Terepo and Allgood are off contract and make a significant move?

Mannah is our best prop by a country mile.

Lussick plays in tight and out wide.

Mossop is untested, but he is a workhorse.

Gower is doing a great job.

Terepo runs hard but is defensively average and offers nothing to vary his attack.

Allgood defends well but that's it.

Junior Paulo is the second best prop at the club IMO.

Alvaro is a beast but untested.


The Cowboys match strengthened my opinion that we need a brutal, big, physical, tough merkin to play with Mannah up front - the Cowboys belted our tight forwards and were able to keep Mannah quiet because of it.

Our current crop needs some help. I think Paulo will get there, but he is still a kid. It wouldn't hurt to sign a more experienced tough nut IMO.

This is why I think signing both Simms brothers would be a coup. Just the type of forwards we lack IMO.

Is Gower that much better than Allgood? The fact Allgood is on contract and Gower is not means id lean towards keeping Mitch. Gower might be going a little better but Allgood has been ok so far. He has played 5 games-One he went off after 2 mins so realy 4.
Against penrith he was our best prop.
Made 90 tackles for one missed ad one error and we won 3/4 games he has played in.


Intresting MoiMoi has only made over 100 mtrs once this year and missed 13 tackles
Mannah has 6/8 times


Hoppa has missed 30 tackles this year compared too tonga - 7

In my opinion, he is streets ahead. Gower defends better, makes more of a dent with every run, has good foot work, is safe as a bank and has a good feel for the game.

Allgood has a lot of promise but I am not sure whether being defensively sound and showing glimpses of promise is enough to justify keeping him TBH.

I know he's still young, so if we do keep him, I won't be unhappy - but I do think we can do better at this stage. I don't think he is doing enough to justify his place in the team.

So everyone has gone off terepo now?

No, not at all.

But he is very unidimensional, and needs to add a pass before the line, offload or step to his game.

 

[Eelementary]

Having lots of props is not a substitute for having a good prop or 2. We need Mannah not to be the only starter quality prop

I agree completely.

Moimoi is just not up to it.

 

[hindy111]

I agree gower is better.But I don't want to have a situation where we are paying half of mitchs contract to play elsewhere so we can keep Gower.

Mitch has shown enough to suggest he can make it.He just needs to put it all together. When on song and running hard he really looks apart.Problem is he goes ht and cold. I still think his performance against Penrith was one of the better ones from any of our props this season.

He needs to be more aggressive IMO. Become one of those grubby forwards that are in your face. He has the skills for it

 

[hindy111]

Lee Mossop was also chased by the dogs.He just didn't want too come, so you would think he has enough in his game to suggest he will go quite well.
Also most of ricky's signings where decent and im pretty sure Nolan had a lot to do with this one didn't he? And from what I gather Nolan is the best at spotting talent