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Chipmunk

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Who cares about second tier breaches? It's hardly a massive advantage to replace one injured nuffy with an uninjured nuffy. You only have to ask the NRL, prove there is no one else available ("We promise they're all injured") and they'll let you do it.

If I recall last year and the year before there was an issue with Penrith that once they had reached their second tier cap that the NRL was then deciding who Penrith could actually put in their team each week. I believe that it also gets to a situation where Top 25 players get priority over non Top 25 players. So for instance the NRL could inform Parramatta that someone like Peni Terepo had to play ahead of say Danny Wicks for instance.
 

Chipmunk

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Danny Wicks is Top 25 as is Richie. Only Folau and Buretta are second tier.

I'm still lost at why the NRL does not make clubs list who their current Top 25 players are at any given time. Would it not make it more transparent with this second tier cap situation?

If that's the case above though it's fair to say that these 23 are in our top 25:
Champion
De Gois
Edwards
Fa’aoso
Gower
Hopoate
Lussick
Ma’u
Mannah
Moeroa
Morgan
Norman
Pauli
Paulo
Paulo
Peats
Radradra
Robinson
Sandow
Takairangi
Terepo
Watmough
Wicks

So, who would the other two be out of??
Crooks
Matterson
Nelson
Quinlan
Toutai
Kelly
 
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yy_cheng

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Are 3rd parties payments sent to the nrl? If so all contracts are registered with the nrl and so they should already know who the top 25 are
 

Chipmunk

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Are 3rd parties payments sent to the nrl? If so all contracts are registered with the nrl and so they should already know who the top 25 are

I wouldn't have thought that third party payments would be an issue of your top 25. I'm guessing it would be your top 25 players under the salary cap.

In any case, I couldn't see too many, if any, lower players in the bottom of your top 25 getting too many third party payments.
 

oldmancraigy

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I'm still lost at why the NRL does not make clubs list who their current Top 25 players are at any given time. Would it not make it more transparent with this second tier cap situation?

If that's the case above though it's fair to say that these 23 are in our top 25:
Champion
De Gois
Edwards
Fa?aoso
Gower
Hopoate
Lussick
Ma?u
Mannah
Moeroa
Morgan
Norman
Pauli
Paulo
Paulo
Peats
Radradra
Robinson
Sandow
Takairangi
Terepo
Watmough
Wicks

So, who would the other two be out of??
Crooks
Matterson
Nelson
Quinlan
Toutai
Kelly

They actually used to make them list them about 5-10 years ago. The pre-season guides had team photos of the top 25, and those were the 'profiled players'. Some whinging about 'who are these young blokes and why aren't they listed', and they may have changed the methodology.
 

84 Baby

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I'm still lost at why the NRL does not make clubs list who their current Top 25 players are at any given time. Would it not make it more transparent with this second tier cap situation?

If that's the case above though it's fair to say that these 23 are in our top 25:
Champion
De Gois
Edwards
Fa?aoso
Gower
Hopoate
Lussick
Ma?u
Mannah
Moeroa
Morgan
Norman
Pauli
Paulo
Paulo
Peats
Radradra
Robinson
Sandow
Takairangi
Terepo
Watmough
Wicks

So, who would the other two be out of??
Crooks
Matterson
Nelson
Quinlan
Toutai
Kelly
I believe it's Finch & Mortimer
 

Poupou Escobar

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I believe that it also gets to a situation where Top 25 players get priority over non Top 25 players. So for instance the NRL could inform Parramatta that someone like Peni Terepo had to play ahead of say Danny Wicks for instance.

So they f**king should. That's the whole point of the top 25 - these are the guys you expect to play first grade, so if they're fit they should play. Asking the NRL for dispensation to bring in another second tier player when there are top 25 players available is just taking the piss. And it's not like the NRL is forcing teams to play a front rower out wide.

Anyway, how hard is it to lie about players being injured? "Yeah we would play Toutai but he's injured, so we want to use Goodall instead."
 

Joshuatheeel

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Anyway, how hard is it to lie about players being injured? "Yeah we would play Toutai but he's injured, so we want to use Goodall instead."

Probably very hard, not sure how the player will take it when they are told, your not picked and BTW your not play NSW cup either......
 

emjaycee

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Dispensation from the NRL is available only when there is no player in a particular position available due to injury.

They wont make us play Wicks on the wing before exempting Faraimo for example.
 

Chipmunk

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So they f**king should. That's the whole point of the top 25 - these are the guys you expect to play first grade, so if they're fit they should play. Asking the NRL for dispensation to bring in another second tier player when there are top 25 players available is just taking the piss. And it's not like the NRL is forcing teams to play a front rower out wide.

Anyway, how hard is it to lie about players being injured? "Yeah we would play Toutai but he's injured, so we want to use Goodall instead."

So using that argument, should there be a rule that you have to use your Top 25 players first, before using any others, irrespective of positions that people play?

As the post above says, making clubs play Danny Wicks on the wing before Faraimo gets a game. After all, it's a Top 25, not a Top 31.
 
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Chipmunk

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I reckon Crooks and Toutai.

If it was Crooks and Toutai, why would we have picked Folau and then Fariamo ahead of them (I accept Toutai was injured) and dipped into our second tier cap and effectively just swapping around 'nuffy' players.

Also...would we seriously have only two halves in a 25 man squad?
 
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