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Rumoured Signings and General Dribble XIII

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Interesting to see that our former 'signing' Pappali has managed to get himself 'robbed' within hours of arriving in Manchester. Guess he needed that signing bonus after all. Apparently he can't remember exactly what happened, but some blokes are 200 quid richer.Hopefully those blokes included a former hurdling champion.
 
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Honestly we dodged a bullet with missing out on Papalii, no integrity whatsoever. Seems to be in trouble out on the grog. Enjoy Sticky lol.
 
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Agree, though I suspect he might turn out to be a decent bloke in the long run. I think he's fairly misguided, but I don't think he's a malicious character.
 

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Interesting to see that our former 'signing' Pappali has managed to get himself 'robbed' within hours of arriving in Manchester. Guess he needed that signing bonus after all. Apparently he can't remember exactly what happened, but some blokes are 200 quid richer.Hopefully those blokes included a former hurdling champion.

maybe the aussies just getting one back on villa the gorilla?
 

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When we signed Sandow he was the form halfback in the NRL. He was worth what we offered him when he signed.

Ryan and Harrison wouldn't be on much. They were both fringe first graders when they signed (re-signed in the case of Ryan).

Sandow is overpaid for what he's done since coming here, and Hayne is overpaid in any season where he doesn't play 20+ games. Likewise Tonga on his last contract, and probably Loko too. Interest from other clubs would have him on a big enough contract that we need a lot more from him than eight games a year.

And you think Ryan and Harrison are the ones blowing our budget? lol

god you're a broken record.

As it stands, (not 2012-13 aka the past...) im only assuming that Tonga resigned cheaply to repay the eels, Hayne resign for probably a moderate amount, hes worth being the highest paid player at the club however, I have no idea about Loko's contract sorry.

Your talking about players being out injured hence wasting salary cap space, something which cannot be controlled. Im talking about overpaid plodders.

lol.
 
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With respect mate, that just doesn't make sense. There a fixed salary cap. What if we paid JH $4m a year? And tried to sign the rest of the team for the balance of the salary cap.

It's fine to talk about priceless assets, but the cap is measured in terms of $$, and there's a very simple relationship between what you spend on one player, and how much you can spend on the rest of the team. At some point, you have to say no.


I'm sorry, I don't agree. And really, 4 million dollars is just being silly.
So, what if I say that within reasonable limits Jarryd Hayne is priceless?
I think if you had someone like Cameron Smith in this years Parramatta side, with no other stars around him, he would not have anywhere near the impact of Hayne. Same for Thurston or Slater or Inglis or ....... (in my opinion only, of course.) In terms of the impact Hayne has on a team, I think he is the best player in the world. I therefor believe that whatever he is paid (within reason) is worth it. That's my reasoning.
I think Melbourne have shown that you can spend the majority of your cap on three players, and have the other positions filled with a rotation of decent players on moderate wages. I think this is one way of using the salary cap. There are other ways, of course. You can more evenly distribute the wages over a greater number of players (as Manly seem to do, and perhaps Cronulla).
 

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I don't think Hoppa could ever have the same value to the eels as Hayne does, regardless of how good he might be purely because he isn't born and bred. Haynes worth every cent for marketing purposes alone.

I agree that - over and above his talent and ability and overall influence and inspiration for the team - Jarryd Hayne's value is further increased by his marketability. In many ways he is Parramatta. He's the face of Parramatta, anyway. Much the same as Ken Thornett was.
 

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I'm sorry, I don't agree. And really, 4 million dollars is just being silly.
So, what if I say that within reasonable limits Jarryd Hayne is priceless?
I think if you had someone like Cameron Smith in this years Parramatta side, with no other stars around him, he would not have anywhere near the impact of Hayne. Same for Thurston or Slater or Inglis or ....... (in my opinion only, of course.) In terms of the impact Hayne has on a team, I think he is the best player in the world. I therefor believe that whatever he is paid (within reason) is worth it. That's my reasoning.
I think Melbourne have shown that you can spend the majority of your cap on three players, and have the other positions filled with a rotation of decent players on moderate wages. I think this is one way of using the salary cap. There are other ways, of course. You can more evenly distribute the wages over a greater number of players (as Manly seem to do, and perhaps Cronulla).

I agree. Hayne is a freak.
 

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i think the point is on an open market (no salary cap) the value of the top level players could be anything where as your plodders like those being mentioned wouldn't be far off their current values.
 
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I'm sorry, I don't agree. And really, 4 million dollars is just being silly.
So, what if I say that within reasonable limits Jarryd Hayne is priceless?
I think if you had someone like Cameron Smith in this years Parramatta side, with no other stars around him, he would not have anywhere near the impact of Hayne. Same for Thurston or Slater or Inglis or ....... (in my opinion only, of course.) In terms of the impact Hayne has on a team, I think he is the best player in the world. I therefor believe that whatever he is paid (within reason) is worth it. That's my reasoning.
I think Melbourne have shown that you can spend the majority of your cap on three players, and have the other positions filled with a rotation of decent players on moderate wages. I think this is one way of using the salary cap. There are other ways, of course. You can more evenly distribute the wages over a greater number of players (as Manly seem to do, and perhaps Cronulla).

Agree entirely that key players can have an enormous value, and can be worth spending a lot of your cap keeping than appears to be justified by their individual impact on the field (as they can help attract other players etc). I was responding specifically to the assertion that such a player is truly priceless. They might be very valuable......but they ain't priceless....and eventually you have to make a decision. Not saying JH isn't worth whatever we're paying him. I agree very much with your 'within reason' qualification....that was my point.
 

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Jarryd Hayne is worth whatever the hell he wants, the influence he has on our side is amazing. We're probably one of the only clubs who'd ever entertain the thought that it's not worth keeping our best player.
 
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Jarryd Hayne is worth whatever the hell he wants, the influence he has on our side is amazing. We're probably one of the only clubs who'd ever entertain the thought that it's not worth keeping our best player.

And this is why I made the original post....what if 'whatever he wants' is a truly ludicrous figure, that means we have no cap space left to sign anyone else of quality.
 

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And this is why I made the original post....what if 'whatever he wants' is a truly ludicrous figure, that means we have no cap space left to sign anyone else of quality.

Exactly. What if some other code offered him $2M? We'd be mad to match it under the current salary cap.

And if he spends the next two years as injured as the last two then we'd be mad to even offer him the money he's currently on.
 

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And this is why I made the original post....what if 'whatever he wants' is a truly ludicrous figure, that means we have no cap space left to sign anyone else of quality.

Yes, but being realistic no player is ever going to ask for that much. If Hayne wanted $1,000,000 then we give him $1,000,000. While we're doing that, we also get rid of the inept people running out club, and get in someone who knows what they're doing. If the roosters can have SBW, or the Cowboys can have Thurston, while still having quality players in other positions, there is no reason we can't have Hayne while giving him a quality support act.
 
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