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Rumoured Targets 3

NK Arsenal

Juniors
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My ideal situation is something like this

1. KP
6. Pryce
7. ???
9. Phoenix

14. Gamble

I think if we get a halfback who is able to take the bulls of the horn then that isn’t looking too bad. My biggest issue with Hastings is that he doesn’t take control of this team.
A good halfback should play both sides of the field and he prefers to stick to one side from my perspective.
 

Yosh

Coach
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My ideal situation is something like this

1. KP
6. Pryce
7. ???
9. Phoenix

14. Gamble

I think if we get a halfback who is able to take the bulls of the horn then that isn’t looking too bad. My biggest issue with Hastings is that he doesn’t take control of this team.
A good halfback should play both sides of the field and he prefers to stick to one side from my perspective.
Would rather

1. Ponga
6. Pryce
7. Gamble
9. New 9
14. Crossland

Any good nines around to sign?
 

Knight Tales

Bench
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2,954
Would rather

1. Ponga
6. Pryce
7. Gamble
9. New 9
14. Crossland

Any good nines around to sign?
Perhaps we will have a crack at Reece Robson who is able to go to market in November (for 2026) . I hope so. Cows will no doubt be keen to lock him down.
 
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aqua_duck

Coach
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18,606
Hynes is a fullback playing at 7 and would probably command serious $$$. Not going to happen nor should it.
Watched a few sharks games lately and Hynes just isn’t it. Hynes probably touches the ball more than any other half in the comp but it’s more quantity than quality for me and his kicking game is average at best. I think his greatest attribute is that he doesn’t shirk his responsibility and will keep demanding the ball, this sheer will can often be enough to beat below average teams but if you actually want to be contenders it’s about icing the opportunities which he’s shown a clear inability to
 

Apey

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Watched a few sharks games lately and Hynes just isn’t it. Hynes probably touches the ball more than any other half in the comp but it’s more quantity than quality for me and his kicking game is average at best. I think his greatest attribute is that he doesn’t shirk his responsibility and will keep demanding the ball, this sheer will can often be enough to beat below average teams but if you actually want to be contenders it’s about icing the opportunities which he’s shown a clear inability to
His best form was 2021 for the Storm at fullback, even though he won a Dally M as half.

But yeah he made some dud plays tonight like the 4th tackle kick to nobody when down by 4 and not long to go.
 

Rod

Bench
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His best form was 2021 for the Storm at fullback, even though he won a Dally M as half.

But yeah he made some dud plays tonight like the 4th tackle kick to nobody when down by 4 and not long to go.
At the end of the the first half tonight, on the 4th tackle with 40 seconds left, he just put a harmless little chip into the corner rather than play for another tackle or put on any sort of attacking play/kick.

I don't normally buy into the 'player x is broken' talk whenever it does the rounds, but he really has looked lost lately.
 

aqua_duck

Coach
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18,606
At the end of the the first half tonight, on the 4th tackle with 40 seconds left, he just put a harmless little chip into the corner rather than play for another tackle or put on any sort of attacking play/kick.

I don't normally buy into the 'player x is broken' talk whenever it does the rounds, but he really has looked lost lately.
He’s definitely more of a confidence player than someone who’s got supreme natural ability, his confidence is definitely shot at present but that aside I just don’t think he’s got that extra gear that the elite playmakers do
 

PhilGould

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St George Illawarra have emerged as the frontrunners to sign former NSW prop Daniel Saifiti as the Newcastle Knights reshape their roster in their quest to end a 23-year premiership drought.

Amid claims that the Knights are plotting yet another roster overhaul, Newcastle officials privately insist there are no plans for a sweeping clean-out, having already undergone the third-highest roster change in the NRL over the past two seasons.

Newcastle have bought and sold 18 players across the past two seasons – only the Bulldogs (25) and Tigers (21) have had a greater turnover over the past 24 months.

However, one player that has been given permission to explore the open market is Saifiti.

The powerful Knights forward has two years remaining on a deal that is slated to pay him in excess of $850,000 a year and is believed to have met Dragons coach Shane Flanagan in the last few days.

The Knights have ramped up an attack on their salary cap since recruitment boss Peter O’Sullivan stepped into the job a fortnight ago and began to take a look under the bonnet.

Saifiti is likely to be the highest-profile departure but others are expected to follow as Newcastle look to create some room to strengthen their squad and make a run at a third title.

One player who won’t be leaving is five-eighth Tyson Gamble, whose retention on a two-year deal was confirmed on Friday.

“Tyson has been a major contributor since his arrival at the Knights,” Newcastle head of football Peter Parr said.

“His energy and enthusiasm are contagious for everyone around him, he plays with a toughness that has earned the respect of his teammates and this community.

“This selfless attitude Tyson brings to our club has meant extending his contract was an easy decision, we are delighted he will remain a Newcastle Knight.”

DANIEL THE DRAGON?

Saifiti is believed to be on a deal that pays him in excess of $850,000 next season.

St George-Illawarra are counting on Newcastle paying a large portion of that figure in order for the Dragons to sign the towering prop.

At the time he signed his huge contract, Saifiti was a State of Origin player and it could be argued the deal was par for the course.

This masthead recently revealed the benchmark figures for front rowers across the NRL and the top five props in the game are paid an average of $1.05 million this year.

Saifiti isn’t one of them but he is one of the game’s elite front rowers and has been an integral piece of the puzzle at Newcastle. Since he last played Origin, however, the likes of Leo Thompson have emerged.

Brother Jacob has also played Origin over the past two seasons while the Knights also have high hopes for NSW under-19s second rower Cody Hopwood, who is still at school and finished at No.2 on this masthead’s list of the best schoolboy rugby league players in the country.

Hopwood has been upgraded to a top 30 deal in recent weeks and is in line to play first grade as soon as next season.

There is a view that Tyson Frizell’s days as an edge back rower could also be coming to an end, meaning he could be destined for a permanent shift to the middle.

Saifiti’s contract and the surfeit of middle forwards at the club means he is a luxury item that the Knights can no longer afford. He is also a proven player who has begun to attract interest from elsewhere.

Rival clubs likely won’t take his entire contract, but they’ll chew up a fair chunk of it which should give the Knights room to manoeuvre with other parts of their roster.

LEAPING LEO

The Knights’ cap is tight but that doesn’t mean they don’t have some cracking deals in their favour. At the top of the list is prop Leo Thompson, who was emerged as one of the better front rowers in the NRL since joining the Knights.

Thompson was signed by Newcastle from Canberra’s Jersey Flegg team in the lead-up to the 2022 season and the Knights quickly extended his contract until the end of 2025.

At the time, he was a relative unknown and it is understood his deal pays him less than $300,000 this season, well below the benchmark for a front-rower of his class.

Next year, it goes up but not by a significant amount. Newcastle know they have a bargain in their ranks – Thompson made his Test debut for New Zealand last season – but they also know their hands are tied by their cap constraints.

They would no doubt love to give Thompson an upgrade next year as part of a long-term extension that would keep him at the club for the foreseeable future.

They just don’t have the wriggle room to do it and rival clubs are watching with genuine interest as they plot an attack on the Newcastle roster, targeting arguably their best front rower.

Newcastle can ill afford to lose him, particularly if they allow Saifiti to leave ahead of schedule. They also know their chances of keeping him will slip dramatically unless they can find a way to upgrade him at some point before November 1.

MORE PLAYERS TO COME?

Jayden Brailey and Jack Hetherington are the two players who are reportedly free to leave at the end of the season, although it is understood neither player nor their management have received anything in writing.

Both players have another year remaining on their deals and are likely to be told that they can go if they can find a longer-term contract elsewhere.

In Brailey’s case, it will be with reluctance.

He is a favourite of teammates and coaches alike but again, the Knights are blessed at hooker with the Phoenix Crossland showing last season that he is more than equipped to fill the role.

There are also some within the club who believed that Jackson Hastings has the potential to be a quality No.9, although that could mean the Knights need to find another half.

It is understood in the lead-up to Sunday’s game against Canberra that Hastings has even spent some time training at hooker in case Brailey is injured or needs a rest.

Fletcher Sharpe, who has been so impressive at fullback in the absence of Kalyn Ponga, could then come on and play in the halves.

Hetherington simply hasn’t been value for money and the Knights are unlikely to offer him an extension, which means they may be willing to let him go if he comes to them with a better offer.

THE DROUGHT

The Knights last won a premiership in 2001 but there have been some green shoots in recent years under coach Adam O’Brien, most notably the they qualified for the finals last year.

Surprisingly given their salary cap concerns, the one player they don’t have any issues with is captain Kalyn Ponga. The Knights had to break the bank to keep him out off the clutches of The Dolphins – and their then recruitment boss O’Sullivan – but the superstar fullback has been at the heart of their revival.

His absence this season has been hard felt and there is a belief that if they can keep him on the park for the reminder of the year, the club can make a charge at the finals.

The impending roster changes aren’t necessarily about the now. They are more about the future and the need to keep improving the squad so they can threaten for a premiership.

 

Knight Tales

Bench
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Hastings to 9 is probably the best option for his career going forward. No kicking required to stress his bad leg. Can pick his running game. I could see it working.
 

Yosh

Coach
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Didn't he leave the Tigers because he wanted to play halfback and not 13? Does he even want to play hooker?
 

Nuke

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Staff member
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If he chooses to have a sook and leave because he's not playing halfback ... then he should consider this: Who is going to recruit him to play halfback in their team?
His options would have to be England or... park footy?

Seemingly gone are the days where players would play anywhere they are needed to, to do what's best for their team and their coach and teammates.
 

Old dog

Bench
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2,652
Putting the next round or two past us and looking at our strongest side, 17, for the run home to qualifying for top 4 or 8 I have come up with my selection of best side, assuming Tuala is out injured, Gamble is back and our SOO players return uninjured. Where we will likely finish, top 4 or 8 will be dependant on a win or two along with the bye over the next 3 weeks.
1 Pong, 2 Gagai, 3 Lucas, 4 Best, 5 Marzhew, 6 Gamble/Pryce, 7 Hastings, 8 JSaf, 9 Crosslands, 10 Thompson, 11 Frizell, 12 KPP, 13 Elliott/Croker, 14 Brailey, 15 DSaf, 16 Croker/Elliott, 17 Jones B.
Gagai to wing as we have no other suitable, Lucas is a better centre than any others at wing. Gamble/Pryce depends on Gambles fitness and Pryces process, Crosslands enthusiasm outplays Brailey but his experience is essential. 50-50 Elliott and Croker. Jones B deserves his spot, effort, better than Hetherington, safer.
 

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