Yes it's been reported everywhere that he's signed with Souths, Roosters and Storm. I believe them.
A week or so ago I was in your camp mate. The Souths mail seems pretty strong.
Hope you are right.
Yes it's been reported everywhere that he's signed with Souths, Roosters and Storm. I believe them.
My point is not about the cap, it's about timing. If we wait until Cronk makes a decision, we might find other halves have already sorted out their futures. Look how fast the market has been moving lately. After Origin is a long time away.
I'm not convinced we will be making offers and getting a deal done with any half until we know where we stand with Cronk. If I'm wrong, great. I want to be wrong.
I think Gagai is a must keep. We can't afford to lose him. It's not as if we don't have the space to make him atleast a competitive offer.
The problem isn't Gagai's value in a vacuum, or even on the open market. If we lose him, we struggle to even get plodders to sign here. We'll struggle to get juniors to sign up ffs.
People have not paid my whinging about our unpopularity overly much concern over the years, but I reckon you can pull up threads from 7 or 8 years ago talking about how unfashionable Newcastle is to the outside world, or even to what feels like a majority of Novocastrians. Bennett and Tinkler temporarily thwarted that perception with reputation and cold hard cash, but now we've added years of sustained total failure to that perception and are constantly being knocked back by anyone we chase.
We need to keep Gags, we need the good news story. The fact that a story that would be considered a standard traffic bulletin to most supporters might be the best news we hear all year is f**king sad, but that's where we are at.
We won't convince a single player on the open market that we're headed in the right direction if we don't keep him, which restricts us to players who care about money over winning, which isn't where we want to be. It could add years to the "rebuild". We NEED something to go out way, to put one foot in front of the other, because we are not moving forward at the moment. We've got the biggest wallet of any club at the moment and yet we are dead in the water.
It's unfathomable to think that we haven't yet reached rock bottom. Losing Gagai would somehow take us deeper.
So at what figure do you stop for Gagai?
Personally, I'd feel sick offering him too much more than the option he currently has on the table with us.
To answer your question I would be easily comfortable giving him an upgrade to his current contract. Cap is going up, he has been extremely loyal and we can't afford to lose him. Obviously I don't know what Rabbits are offering but I would be comfortable with paying him 600 or even more.
We can if Souths are offering more. Whatever they're offering, that's the number unfortunately, and we have to match it. If he leaves for Souths for the same or less money, then you can be filthy at Gags all you like. I wouldn't blame him personally, he wants to win football matches and just about anyone is a better chance at that than us.And that's the offer on the table from us so if he leaves we can't whinge and whine about Brown and Mooney failing to offer him more than enough coin.
No one single thing does, it's a continued accumulation of bad news that keeps the stink about. I've lost count of the number of times I've had someone say to me "x, y or z isn't going to stop us getting better!" - the point is that we just continue to let this shit happen and go oh well, that situation didn't perfectly fit into our neat little rigid plan, I guess it wasn't meant to be. Suppose we'll wait another few years for something good to happen.Gagai leaving isnt going to stop players signing with us. That's ridiculous.
Nah it's fantastic. We'll replace him with some 18 year old that probably could have had a career elsewhere, or a journeyman that doesn't give a stuff, or even worse - another Mata'utia will end up there. Or we'll go out and sign someone as great as SKD. Sweet. Then we'll have another $400k to spend on no-one.Gagai leaving isn't exactly bad news