Rumoured Targets 3

[Loose Cannon]

Nah the cap is fine and it's just journos making up stories.

What number rebuild are we up to now, I've lost count.

Gotta be the threebuild, at least.

 

[mozza91]

I must be one of the few fans who actually value Elliot. He's not a world beater but given the cap position I think he's on solid fger money and offers that on the pitch

He’s a good player. Good link man in attack and excellent defensively. Will be missed if he moves on.

 

[Knight Tales]

The earlier comments about the expansion teams may have some merit in all of this. O’Sullivan has already been there and done it. He knows the threat to the club. KP was born in Port Headland. You can pretty much guarantee he will be their number 1 target. It is just how it is in the NRL until they get real with a player window where huge fines and comp points deductions occur if tampering is proven. And he can make a lot of money there in third parties. His father is a miner as we know. So they have plenty to sell.

The Bears in reality could be a powerhouse with all the mining money over there. Dwarf anything on this coast. So there is great sense of urgency about all of this I can appreciate. It will never be admitted to but O’Sullivan would have told them he has to do it his way.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

For an insight - FOX stats have both Lucas and Elliot in statistics for lock forwards

For anyone suggesting he's the key link in our attack - we are coming last
For anyone suggesting you may miss him - you won't miss not being competitive.

Lucas - 18 games (salary pie and a coke)
Runs- 2,073 (9th)
Line Breaks 6
Tackle Breaks - 53 (2nd)

Elliot - 20 games ( salary 500K + )
Runs 1,383 (26th)
Line Breaks 3
Tackle Breaks 34

 

[Rod]

I must be one of the few fans who actually value Elliot. He's not a world beater but given the cap position I think he's on solid fger money and offers that on the pitch

We did the Elliott argument to death a couple of months ago, but I think he's mostly fine. Had a shocker on the weekend but is normally solid and sometimes better than that, is a good link man for our backline moves (when we actually do them) tries his hardest and is rarely injured.

If he's on 475k then that's a fair wage IMO. That's not even 100k above an average top 30 salary.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

The earlier comments about the expansion teams may have some merit in all of this. O’Sullivan has already been there and done it. He knows the threat to the club. KP was born in Port Headland. You can pretty much guarantee he will be their number 1 target. It is just how it is in the NRL until they get real with a player window where huge fines and comp points deductions occur if tampering is proven. And he can make a lot of money there in third parties. His father is a miner as we know. So they have plenty to sell.

The Bears in reality could be a powerhouse with all the mining money over there. Dwarf anything on this coast. So there is great sense of urgency about all of this I can appreciate. It will never be admitted to but O’Sullivan would have told them he has to do it his way.

that's a good point, I'll have a guess and say Pong wants a Premiership before he retires. Teddy retiring soon . He'll be a Rooster

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

Brailey is all class. Easy to see why they nominated him Captain and not someone like Dsaf

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...64907f49183ba532c7efcab089?recommendedCount=0

 

[Rod]

For an insight - FOX stats have both Lucas and Elliot in statistics for lock forwards

For anyone suggesting he's the key link in our attack - we are coming last
For anyone suggesting you may miss him - you won't miss not being competitive.

Lucas - 18 games (salary pie and a coke)
Runs- 2,073 (9th)
Line Breaks 6
Tackle Breaks - 53 (2nd)

Elliot - 20 games ( salary 500K + )
Runs 1,383 (26th)
Line Breaks 3
Tackle Breaks 34

I don't think Lucas has played a minute of lock in first grade. This is not a fair comparison.

 

[Woody90]

For an insight - FOX stats have both Lucas and Elliot in statistics for lock forwards

For anyone suggesting he's the key link in our attack - we are coming last
For anyone suggesting you may miss him - you won't miss not being competitive.

Lucas - 18 games (salary pie and a coke)
Runs- 2,073 (9th)
Line Breaks 6
Tackle Breaks - 53 (2nd)

Elliot - 20 games ( salary 500K + )
Runs 1,383 (26th)
Line Breaks 3
Tackle Breaks 34

Why are you comparing an edge player/centre and a middle?

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

I don't think Lucas has played a minute of lock in first grade. This is not a fair comparison.

I said it a while back and if reports are true then someone in charge of the roster agrees

Have a peak at where Elliot is in lock forward stats - below average.

A rookie on a pie and coke is better value to the overall roster and cap health.

Why are you comparing an edge player/centre and a middle?

to illustrate what a pie and coke salary is providing for the money compared to a guy on half a mill.

Have a peak at where Elliot is in lock forward stats - below average.

I haven't check his FANTASY POINTS - my bad

 

[Woody90]

I must be one of the few fans who actually value Elliot. He's not a world beater but given the cap position I think he's on solid fger money and offers that on the pitch

There was a long arguement about Elliott in here recently and most people rate him the way you do. Culminating his stats he sits just in the top 8 of locks which I think is fair for his pay packet.

He’s nowhere close to one of my favourite players so I don’t care too much if he leaves but my concern is that he’s now been tapped because we can’t get rid of others and we’ll end up with someone that offers less than Elliott because we have no cap space.

Bloke in a Bar pod had a good analysis on Elliott on Monday’s ep. Talked about how they see him as a really good footballer but he gets so into the physical side of the game he makes errors by trying to do too much which is his downfall.

 

[PhilGould]

I said it a while back and if reports are true then someone in charge of the roster agrees

Have a peak at where Elliot is in lock forward stats - below average.

A rookie on a pie and coke is better value to the overall roster and cap health.


to illustrate what a pie and coke salary is providing for the money compared to a guy on half a mill.

Have a peak at where Elliot is in lock forward stats - below average.

I haven't check his FANTASY POINTS - my bad

Once again, fantasy points are the exact same stats that you're using to base your arguments off - just calculated together into one single score. There's no magic dust added. It's still not a good argument for ranking players but it's as reliable as you cherry picking a few stats to support your stance.

 

[Woody90]

I said it a while back and if reports are true then someone in charge of the roster agrees

Have a peak at where Elliot is in lock forward stats - below average.

A rookie on a pie and coke is better value to the overall roster and cap health.


to illustrate what a pie and coke salary is providing for the money compared to a guy on half a mill.

Have a peak at where Elliot is in lock forward stats - below average.

I haven't check his FANTASY POINTS - my bad

It’s been explained to you like 5 times now mate and you still don’t seem to understand what they base fantasy points on. It’s a culmination of all of a players stats. FTR I don’t like using stats as a basis to rate players alone but since you seem obsessed with them I’m happy to speak your language.

 

[Rod]

I said it a while back and if reports are true then someone in charge of the roster agrees

Have a peak at where Elliot is in lock forward stats - below average.

A rookie on a pie and coke is better value to the overall roster and cap health.

Agrees with what?

Lucas is a gun but plays a different position and is a rare case - it's impossible to fill a team with Lucases. Some players you actually have to pay them what they're worth.

 

[macavity]

Elliott is so so far from the issue with the team, talk about getting in the weeds.

We need a 6,7,9, and Phoen the Peen to the bench.

 

[Woody90]

Agrees with what?

Lucas is a gun but plays a different position and is a rare case - it's impossible to fill a team with Lucases. Some players you actually have to pay them what they're worth.

We also can’t assume that Lucas will be on a pie and coke (if that’s even what he’s on - knowing us he’s probably on a lot) beyond his current contract. That’s just the way it works. Unless they’re some kind of in demand gun like Ponga, rookies are always typically on nothing for their first FG contract and then they get upgraded significantly.

 

[TooheysNew]

I wish I lived in a world where 400k was a pie and a coke salary.

 

[Rod]

We also can’t assume that Lucas will be on a pie and coke (if that’s even what he’s on - knowing us he’s probably on a lot) beyond his current contract. That’s just the way it works. Unless they’re some kind of in demand gun like Ponga, rookies are always typically on nothing for their first FG contract and then they get upgraded significantly.

Agreed, that's what I meant by rare case. He'll get a significant upgrade soon, as he should.

 

[mozza91]

A centre makes more breaks and tackle breaks than a lock forward. That’s how you definitively claim that Elliott is a waste of money?

You need to move on Lich, everyone else has.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

Once again, fantasy points are the exact same stats that you're using to base your arguments off - just calculated together into one single score. There's no magic dust added. It's still not a good argument for ranking players but it's as reliable as you cherry picking a few stats to support your stance.

lol pass the info on to the coaches buddy. There's a soft cap saver right there - just go straight for the fantasy points hahaha ffs