Rumours and Stuff

[I'm a loser baby...]

No

Ha.

Although you are when team lists are announced.

 

[hineyrulz]

Mate, Smith was an ok centre before he did his knees, but nothing special. After he did his knees he was terrible, could hardly even run.
Fensom at his best had a great running game and has always been a terrific defender, often making over 40 tackles a game and it was not unusual to see him notch up over 50. The Qld origin camp said a number of times over the years if Fenson was a Queenslander they'd pick him for their team. And they've been pretty successful over the past 11 odd years.
These days Fensom looks tired and word down. That's not to say with a change of club and new coaching he might not find some of his best form.
But he was and still is a much better player than Smith who was ok at best with a pretty small work rate.

You must have missed the 2005 season when he was outstanding for us. Sure after his injury he was never the same but for a while there he did serviceable job in the backrow. In his last few years he was an absolute plodder but we can thank Hages for signing him on a four year deal.

Who cares what QLD think, they also reckon Daley should keep his job, Fensom was only ever average and it now an absolute plodder.

 

[Gary Gutful]

No

Glad we cleared that up.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Fensom was only ever average and it now an absolute plodder.

Plodsom

 

[strider]

But it hasn't.

Pffft, even MORE shit greenburg has got wrong ... the guy has no idea

 

[Parra47]

You must have missed the 2005 season when he was outstanding for us. Sure after his injury he was never the same but for a while there he did serviceable job in the backrow. In his last few years he was an absolute plodder but we can thank Hages for signing him on a four year deal.

Who cares what QLD think, they also reckon Daley should keep his job, Fensom was only ever average and it now an absolute plodder.

Yes 2005 was his best season, however he was surrounded by quality players that helped lift him.
Fensom's work game stats crap all over Smith, much better runner of the ball, a meter eater (especially at his best), a bucket load more tackles, more work off the ball with support runs, quality second phase off loads. And yeah Qld have been successful for a reason so anyone who wants to be successful would look at what they do and listen to what they think. Fensom is a no nonsense, get the job done type player who had many good seasons of top quality work and was Canberra's best of close to it for a few years. Ben Smith never achieved anything close to that for us.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[hineyrulz]

Yes 2005 was his best season, however he was surrounded by quality players that helped lift him.
Fensom's work game stats crap all over Smith, much better runner of the ball, a meter eater (especially at his best), a bucket load more tackles, more work off the ball with support runs, quality second phase off loads. And yeah Qld have been successful for a reason so anyone who wants to be successful would look at what they do and listen to what they think. Fensom is a no nonsense, get the job done type player who had many good seasons of top quality work and was Canberra's best of close to it for a few years. Ben Smith never achieved anything close to that for us.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

Of course Fensoms stats crapped all over Smith, Smith was a centre then an edge back rower with no knee Cartlidge, Fensom is just another stats padder.

 

[Parra47]

Of course Fensoms stats crapped all over Smith, Smith was a centre then an edge back rower with no knee Cartlidge, Fensom is just another stats padder.

As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Are we allowed to do that?

 

[hineyrulz]

Are we allowed to do that?

Not until Pou says uncle.

 

[phantom eel]

I think we need to find a good hooker along with someone to play in the halves and a top line front rower.
If Gutherson went into the halves and Bevan to fullback we could go that way and find someone on the wing.

Yep.

And chasing Hayne next after Norman won't fix any of those squad priority areas - hooker, halfback (or winger), and front rower.

 

[ash411]

Yep.

And chasing Hayne next after Norman won't fix any of those squad priority areas - hooker, halfback (or winger), and front rower.

If we can get a half, a hooker and a prop for the price that Hayne allegedly is after (which is possible) the choice seems obviously easy to me..

3 Players > 1 Player no matter who that 1 player is.

 

[jk13]

if u r paying more than 250k for fensom u got rocks in your head.
hayne >>>> 3 fensoms

 

[Avenger]

Everyone was more than happy to pay a pill popping, gambling, depressed half with no kicking game $1.2m yet if it's Hayne it's not on.

 

[Noise]

If we can get a half, a hooker and a prop for the price that Hayne allegedly is after (which is possible) the choice seems obviously easy to me..

3 Players > 1 Player no matter who that 1 player is.

You still get the 3 players if we sign Hayne, it's just the other 2 will be of less value. Seems like Vave is a done deal. If we end up with Hayne, Norman and Vave and Pritchard becomes our 9 I'd be pretty happy with that.

 

[ash411]

Everyone was more than happy to pay a pill popping, gambling, depressed half with no kicking game $1.2m yet if it's Hayne it's not on.

Yep, exactly.

 

[ash411]

You still get the 3 players if we sign Hayne, it's just the other 2 will be of less value. Seems like Vave is a done deal. If we end up with Hayne, Norman and Vave and Pritchard becomes our 9 I'd be pretty happy with that.

Depends on where Hayne is going to play.

I've been saying that I wouldn't mind trying him at 6, with Norman at 7, But I don't think we should be paying 7 figures for him. When you take 2/3 years off there has to be some drop off in your value.

I'm not saying we shouldn't sign him as such, but if it costs us signings in key positions that we NEED, then I don't think it's a good idea.

 

[Noise]

Depends on where Hayne is going to play.

I've been saying that I wouldn't mind trying him at 6, with Norman at 7, But I don't think we should be paying 7 figures for him. When you take 2/3 years off there has to be some drop off in your value.

I'm not saying we shouldn't sign him as such, but if it costs us signings in key positions that we NEED, then I don't think it's a good idea.

If he plays in the halves then our spine is sorted as it seems BA has a thing for Pritchard and sees him as our long term 9 with either French or Gutherson at 1. With Vave we have a replacement for Junior. I don't see where we will lose out on any positions that are NEEDED.

 

[jk13]

the only thing I don't like about hayne is the way he converses with the refs. if he fixes that, he's worth every cent in skill and marketability. on a side note, dugan has been a sour puss ever since he left, is needs someone in the game that is better than him so he has an unachievable goal to reach

 

[Noise]

the only thing I don't like about hayne is the way he converses with the refs. if he fixes that, he's worth every cent in skill and marketability. on a side note, dugan has been a sour puss ever since he left, is needs someone in the game that is better than him so he has an unachievable goal to reach

I reckon Scott might stay as captain and do the ref chats