Rumours and Stuff

[Bazal]

Baz has backtracked, so yes it seems he is now not saying Hayne was awarded for his playmaking.


A comma would have helped Baz's original claims out immensely. I have addressed the playmaking ability separately to the award claims in a recent reply directed at Bazal.

I haven't backtracked you absolute walnut! I have pointed out that the words you attempted to put in my mouth were utterly incorrect and not at all what I said. But keep shifting the goal posts, because we're all well aware you haven't actually got anything to back up your contempt for Hayne

 

[BoneyBlake17]

Apparently our media department have been punted today

 

[Chipmunk]

Is that a new Dally M category I missed? I thought Hayne won for Player of the Year and Fullback of the Year, not "playmaker"?

Gavin Miller twice won Dally M Player of the Year, but it didn't automatically make him a "playmaker".

Huh? One of your best Bazal - a Dally M Player of the Year is proof enough that someone would be a successful 6, even though he was a successful 6 already - even though he actually wasn't? Lol.

Are you sure Pou didn't hack your log in for a minute there?

You obviously didn't watch a lot of Gavin Miller if you don't think he was a playmaker.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Apparently our media department have been punted today

Good. They are f**king amateurs.

We need Hadley doing the interviews at training and after games.

 

[ash411]

Good. They are f**king amateurs.

We need Hadley doing the interviews at training and after games.

Or better yet, we could get Paul Kent to do them? He's a top notch journalist...

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Is he Max's mate though?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And already familiar with the number 7 curse.

 

[emjaycee]

Apparently our media department have been punted today

Have you got a source for this one?

 

[phantom eel]

Fine, so you are alleging that being our leading performer for the stats by which playmakers are assessed was irrelevant to his Dally M wins.

To be frank, you are an idiot and you are wrong.

Wait a minute, are you now trying to argue Hayne won playmaking awards again? Rather than just playing awards, of which one aspect was his playmaking abilities..

Why does his "awarded" status as a playmaker mean so much to you Baz? Is it because it's a central reason why you think he should be re-signed to play (make) - something Hayne has never done before?

Michael Morgan plays exactly that same role and he wears 6. Shaun Johnson plays a very similar role and he wears 7.

With Norman as the number one half, why can Hayne not play the exact same role and wear 6 instead of 1? I presume the answer will be because Phantom Bart doesn't like the guy?

So are you suggesting Arthur change his structure to a primary and secondary playmaker at 6 and 7, to accomodate Hayne as the secondary playmaker next year? Even though Hayne is untested in 80min frontline defence, and even though Hayne would be earning more than our primary playmaker?

I've never met the guy so I don't not like Hayne, I just don't think he is a good value footballer and I don't think we should sign him and expect his to be anything like he was (from fullback) in those two highpoint seasons.

Once again, you are basically saying that the quality of players around Hayne at that time was irrelevant, which is clearly not true. As to your question, what part of being our leading playmaker for several years disqualifies him as a frontline playmaker in your eyes?

Wait, so now he's our leading playmaker again, instead of being "one of" our playmakers? And was our leading playmaker for several years at fullback and gets credit for that success, but when he was a playmaker in the halves for a time in the seasons inbetween the lack of success was due to those around him... confusing.

And you're seriously asking what's different to being a playmaker from fullback compared to being a playmaker in the halves? Well Baz, as previously stated that difference would be needing to do 80mins of front line defence in the halves as well as full time hands on the ball playmaking as a 6 or 7, compared to only needing to do "best effort" defence from fullback, and "choose when you chime in" playmaking from fullback.

When you've finished arguing with me about how much of a fan of Jaryd you are Baz, just let me know when you want to discuss the merits of Tim Smith too..

 

[El Diablo]

Apparently our media department have been punted today

 

[Happy MEel]

I agree DCE i a poor half, and nowhere in the class of the others. I was glad we chased Foran rathern than him. DCE got himself a good contract, but is poor - something I'd like us to avaoid by not signing Hayne as a half.

So in regards to my second point, can you think of any teams that Cronk, Thurston or Johns played in that were rubbish? The only one I can think of in comparison to the opposition is Cronk in the 2014 kangaroos team during the four nations. We were belted in the forwards by the Kiwis and Cronk was non-existent.

 

[phantom eel]

Have you got a source for this one?

Sass's twitter...

 

[El Diablo]

 

[Obscene Assassin]

here's another link

 

[phantom eel]

So in regards to my second point, can you think of any teams that Cronk, Thurston or Johns played in that were rubbish? The only one I can think of in comparison to the opposition is Cronk in the 2014 kangaroos team during the four nations. We were belted in the forwards by the Kiwis and Cronk was non-existent.

Well at club level some of the Newcastle teams Joey fronted were rubbish - including one memorable game at Parra stadium where we gave it to them and Joey was very frustrated. But in those games he still put in like an elite money playmaker, for the whole 80mins, just like Jarryd would have to if we sign him for that halves role on elite playmaker money.

Difference being I don't think Jarryd is or has ever been capable of 80min playmaking performance if the chips are down.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why do gay men always hang out with women with huge boobs?

 

[ash411]

So, what was his job? and why was he punted do you reckon?

 

[emjaycee]

Why do gay men always hang out with women with huge boobs?

Don't be too sure anyone in that twitter pic is gay mate.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

So in regards to my second point, can you think of any teams that Cronk, Thurston or Johns played in that were rubbish? The only one I can think of in comparison to the opposition is Cronk in the 2014 kangaroos team during the four nations. We were belted in the forwards by the Kiwis and Cronk was non-existent.

Johnathan Thurston's 2010 cowboys had the most losses that year.

 

[emjaycee]

Hugh was the Media Manager - responsible for media liaison, etc.
Sass was responsible for Digital content.

Apparently there was a restructure.