Rumours and Stuff

[Happy MEel]

No I don't. Hayne's a reportedly lazy trainer who tries to get by on raw ability and runs away at the sign of needing to do hard work (e.g. 2nd season 49ers, Rugby 7s).

Not according to Ben Ryan, his most recent coach. He says the following in the article link below:

"He also added hugely to the squad with his attitude off and on the field and I have no doubt this has improved everyone’s performance levels and helped the team in their pursuit of Olympic success.”

So not only does he have a good attitude on and off the field, it would seem he also improves the players around him.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/olympic...s/news-story/95a0c531820b3e369de366c00f3b595a

 

[phantom eel]

He never said it before. He called hayne "a Dally M winning playmaker" the statement is sound as is.

That makes as much sense as saying Hayne is a Dally M winning chip kicker! Sure, it's one of the things he does, but it's hardly the whole package that wins him an award, lol.

 

[El Diablo]

Hugh was the Media Manager - responsible for media liaison, etc.
Sass was responsible for Digital content.

Apparently there was a restructure.

and that Ben guy was the digital exec

 

[phantom eel]

I haven't backtracked you absolute walnut! I have pointed out that the words you attempted to put in my mouth were utterly incorrect and not at all what I said. But keep shifting the goal posts, because we're all well aware you haven't actually got anything to back up your contempt for Hayne

Lol, I didn't attempt to put anything in your mouth Baz... you must be getting confused with a night out.

Are you ready to accept that playing fullback is different to playing in the halves yet, despite any awards someone has won and hwat they might be for?

 

[TheRam]

Hugh was the Media Manager - responsible for media liaison, etc.
Sass was responsible for Digital content.

Apparently there was a restructure.

That tells us nothing.

 

[Bazal]

Wait a minute, are you now trying to argue Hayne won playmaking awards again? Rather than just playing awards, of which one aspect was his playmaking abilities..

Why does his "awarded" status as a playmaker mean so much to you Baz? Is it because it's a central reason why you think he should be re-signed to play (make) - something Hayne has never done before?

You're the one claiming he has never played as a playmaker before, despite acknowledging that his Dally M awards came whilst playing a playmaking role. Or will you change your tune again? Obfuscate!

So are you suggesting Arthur change his structure to a primary and secondary playmaker at 6 and 7, to accomodate Hayne as the secondary playmaker next year? Even though Hayne is untested in 80min frontline defence, and even though Hayne would be earning more than our primary playmaker?

Um, we do play with a primary and secondary playmaker....

Wait, so now he's our leading playmaker again, instead of being "one of" our playmakers? And was our leading playmaker for several years at fullback and gets credit for that success, but when he was a playmaker in the halves for a time in the seasons inbetween the lack of success was due to those around him... confusing.

What part of him being the leader of the key playmaking statistics for many of the years he was at Parramatta confuses you? The part where it flies in the face of your claims to the contrary?

And you're seriously asking what's different to being a playmaker from fullback compared to being a playmaker in the halves? Well Baz, as previously stated that difference would be needing to do 80mins of front line defence in the halves as well as full time hands on the ball playmaking as a 6 or 7, compared to only needing to do "best effort" defence from fullback, and "choose when you chime in" playmaking from fullback.

No, I'm asking what part of being the leader of the key playmaking stats for much of his time at Parramatta disqualifies him from being a frontline playmaker, something you have yet to answer. What a surprise

When you've finished arguing with me about how much of a fan of Jaryd you are Baz, just let me know when you want to discuss the merits of Tim Smith too..

OBFUSCATE! QUICK!

 

[phantom eel]

Not according to Ben Ryan, his most recent coach. He says the following in the article link below:

"He also added hugely to the squad with his attitude off and on the field and I have no doubt this has improved everyone’s performance levels and helped the team in their pursuit of Olympic success.”

So not only does he have a good attitude on and off the field, it would seem he also improves the players around him.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/olympic...s/news-story/95a0c531820b3e369de366c00f3b595a

Hmmm, possibly.

I suggest you look into the link between Hayne's appearance with the Fiji 7s side, his sponsorship arrangement with Fiji Air, and Ben Ryan's links between the two...

 

[Bazal]

Lol, I didn't attempt to put anything in your mouth Baz... you must be getting confused with a night out.

Lol, you can't even sling an insult very well. So you didn't claim I said that Jarryd Hayne was the Dally M Playmaker of the Year, now? Righto.

Are you ready to accept that playing fullback is different to playing in the halves yet, despite any awards someone has won and hwat they might be for?

I've never said otherwise. You are one of those who can't accept that a player can be a frontline playmaker from fullback, and that the simple truth of the matter is Hayne was a two time Dally M Player of the year in a playmaking role.....wait a minute, OBFUSCATE!

 

[hineyrulz]

lol

 

[phantom eel]

You're the one claiming he has never played as a playmaker before, despite acknowledging that his Dally M awards came whilst playing a playmaking role. Or will you change your tune again? Obfuscate!

Nonsense, I've consistently said Hayne has never successfully played in a front line playmaker role, i.e. one at 6 or 7 that also requires 80min front line defence, i.e. the exact role you are saying we should sign Hayne for.

Um, we do play with a primary and secondary playmaker....

Well, not by design, and only since Foran went down. Point is it's not Arthur's preferred structure.

What part of him being the leader of the key playmaking statistics for many of the years he was at Parramatta confuses you? The part where it flies in the face of your claims to the contrary?

You're talking selected statistics, I'm talking the difference in position - and how one's previous playmaking ability is effected when you soak up 80mins in the front line.

Do you have any stats on how Jarryd's playmakingsucceeds when he's playing defence in the front line at 6 or 7 - the positions for which you are sying we should sign him? Didn't think so...

No, I'm asking what part of being the leader of the key playmaking stats for much of his time at Parramatta disqualifies him from being a frontline playmaker, something you have yet to answer. What a surprise

Backtracking to talk about fullback stats again, instead of owning up to the reality that Hayne has been tested as a fnt line playmaking 6 at a club level and failed? C'mon Baz, I expected better than that from you...

OBFUSCATE! QUICK!

lol, meltdown and sook, quick!

 

[Bazal]

Nonsense, I've consistently said Hayne has never successfully played in a front line playmaker role, i.e. one at 6 or 7 that also requires 80min front line defence, i.e. the exact role you are saying we should sign Hayne for.


Well, not by design, and only since Foran went down. Point is it's not Arthur's preferred structure.


You're talking selected statistics, I'm talking the difference in position - and how one's previous playmaking ability is effected when you soak up 80mins in the front line.

Do you have any stats on how Jarryd's playmakingsucceeds when he's playing defence in the front line at 6 or 7 - the positions for which you are sying we should sign him? Didn't think so...


Backtracking to talk about fullback stats again, instead of owning up to the reality that Hayne has been tested as a fnt line playmaking 6 at a club level and failed? C'mon Baz, I expected better than that from you...


lol, meltdown and sook, quick!

You're just going to keep deflecting and obfuscating, aren't you? It's unbecoming, but not surprising

 

[phantom eel]

Lol, you can't even sling an insult very well. So you didn't claim I said that Jarryd Hayne was the Dally M Playmaker of the Year, now? Righto.

Not since you backtracked and added a few words of clairty to your original claim, no. I'm a fir man...

I've never said otherwise. You are one of those who can't accept that a player can be a frontline playmaker from fullback, and that the simple truth of the matter is Hayne was a two time Dally M Player of the year in a playmaking role.....wait a minute, OBFUSCATE!

Lol. Being a "frontline playmaker from fullback" conveniently neglects the apsect and impact of frontline defence - and this is important because you (and others) are advocating signing the guy for a playmaking role in 6 or 7 that includes front line defence.

Just be honest Baz, call Hayne a (secondary, non-chief, non-main) playmaker from fullback - and you'll have no argument. But trying to dishonestly intimate frontline defensive capabilities into Hayne's previous performances for us - and arguing there is already "frontline" eveidence that Hayne would succeeed and therefore we should sign him as a 6 - is simply Pou-worthy argumentativism.

 

[phantom eel]

You're just going to keep deflecting and obfuscating, aren't you? It's unbecoming, but not surprising

Until you pull your head in, and admit you're talking shit about Hayne's success as a frontline defender - in the role you are hoping he is signed for as a frontline 6 or 7 playmaker - then I just I will keep showing you up Baz.

Though Baz I guess we can both always hope that Hayne shines in the halves as much as that star of yesteryear Tim Smith once did....

 

[Noise]

Parra47, If we sign Hayne and BA plays him at 6 next year does that mean:

a) BA also has no idea about rugby league or
b) He just has more copies of rugby league week than you?

 

[phantom eel]

Hugh was the Media Manager - responsible for media liaison, etc.
Sass was responsible for Digital content.

Apparently there was a restructure.

Sounds like code for apparently we have to save some money/costs from our non-cap operations?

Sucks for the staff involved - I thought they did a great job and our membership numbers (and hence income) have grown steadily via fan engagement etc.

(Though I guess if we're signing Hayne then we won't need any other future media...)

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Don't be too sure anyone in that twitter pic is gay mate.

No I meant bart

 

[emjaycee]

Sounds like code for apparently we have to save some money/costs from our non-cap operations?

Sucks for the staff involved - I thought they did a great job and our membership numbers (and hence income) have grown steadily via fan engagement etc.

(Though I guess if we're signing Hayne then we won't need any other future media...)

Or it sounds like the current structure in the media department wasn't providing the optimal output required and the exec in charge of that area decided to update the structure. In the process they decided the incumbents were not suitable for the changed roles required and hence they were made redundant.

 

[jk13]

Some of you gurus need to wake up. We've known for years that Hayne doesn't have the strength in his knees to play 6. Or was it 1, I forget....

 

[phantom eel]

No I meant bart

 

[IFR33K]

You guys are f**king funny. Arguing over a player that hasn't played at our club in almost two years.

Arguing over his potential signing for next year, in a position he may or may not play in, for a club he may or may not play for (eels) in a code he may or may not have any interest in (rugby league).


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