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Obscene Assassin

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Marata Niukore. A surprise in the fact that once he's in first grade he won't ever not be in first grade. Will get the same treatment that Daniel Alvaro received in that for his first month or so of footy he'll only play about 40 minutes, at best, off the bench.
 

Noise

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Marata Niukore. A surprise in the fact that once he's in first grade he won't ever not be in first grade. Will get the same treatment that Daniel Alvaro received in that for his first month or so of footy he'll only play about 40 minutes, at best, off the bench.

Do you think he’ll force his way in or only play in an injury crisis? Who do you think will make way for him?
 

strider

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Do you think he’ll force his way in or only play in an injury crisis? Who do you think will make way for him?
Was thinking the same

Only way really (apart from injuries) is if Tep moves into the middle permenantly
 

El Diablo

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...k=ed18269e09bfd453f424e2f8b0ba1468-1516708101

NRL lifeline: Why Parramatta coach Brad Arthur saved Tony Williams from extinction
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership

BRAD Arthur had never met Tony Williams before they sat down for a coffee in October.

While Williams started his career with Parramatta, their paths had never intersected.

Yet despite a horror run with injury and years of lacklustre form, Arthur was willing to meet with the man nicknamed ‘T-Rex’.

The truth is, in recent seasons Williams has been less of a monster and more of a man facing NRL extinction.

After one season with Cronulla where he tore his ACL, he wasn’t offered a new contract from the club.

Still, Arthur wanted to hear what the giant had to say.

With no preconceived ideas of who Williams was or what he was about, the Eels mentor listened.

It took 60 seconds before Arthur knew he was going to offer him a contract.

“Once the season finished I met with him,” Arthur told foxsports.com.au.

“I could see he was determined and he knew it was make or break for him.

“He felt like he had more than one year left in him and you can tell he needs to make a real go of it and knew what he has to do to get himself right physically.

“It’s not football. You don’t forget how to play football. Physically with his knee and weight and fitness he knows what he has to do to play well.

“I could see determination in him.

“He didn’t want to go and finish his career overseas. He wants to play for many more years to come. He’s not ready to give it up yet.”

It’s a low risk play for the Eels coach.

On his best day, the backrower is one of the most damaging ball runners in the game.

A former Test and Origin star, Williams is till only 29.

He’s also leaner than ever before.

In fact, the last time he was this trim, he was playing on the wing.

Offered a bottom dollar wage, Williams has everything to play for.

While the bigger money option would’ve been to move to England, Arthur said Williams didn’t want to entertain the idea of leaving the NRL.

In fact, the player himself believes he has another couple of years to mix it in the premier competition and it’s that kind of self-belief which excites Arthur.

“He’s going well. His attitude is excellent. He’s one of the first blokes to training all the time,” he said.

“He’s doing extras. He still hasn’t joined the main group but he’s 122 kilos. He’s skinner than he’s been since he’s 19.

“He’s got a real determination about him. He knows he needs to make a go of it.”

The addition of the experienced Williams has helped soften the void left by the retirement of veteran Frank Pritchard.

Blessed for choice in the backrow, including the possible switch of Brad Takairangi from centre to backrow to accommodate for the arrival of Jarryd Hayne, competition for spots are at a premium.

While injuries will inevitably force change, Arthur hasn’t promised any single position, stressing that training and trial form will determine his team for the season opener against Penrith on March 11.

“They’re all looking around,” Arthur said.

“They know there’s competition for spots. That creates a healthy competitive environment. The team picks itself. If they want to be in the team, they’ll be in the team.”
 

Obscene Assassin

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Do you think he’ll force his way in or only play in an injury crisis? Who do you think will make way for him?

Depends what you mean by crisis, if there's an injury or 2 in the pack. Big enough to play in the middle but also has the defensive capability to play on the edge.
 

hindy111

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But he also cost us a lot of possession and made a lot of poor defensive reads. As fans it probably won't be as exciting to watch but from a coach's perspective or possibly from a win percentage I don't think we'll be much worse without him.

Wingers will always get chances to create excitement. Auvua did a few great things.
None will be able to do what Semi does as far as 100mtr tries but how many of those are scored? Semi also great under high ball.
90% of his tries any winger scores. But he was special.And will be a loss no matter how you try and paint it.
 

strider

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Semi is a massive loss ... i would go so far as to say we would rise 2 spots on the power rankings if he was still here
 

Poupou Escobar

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Wingers will always get chances to create excitement. Auvua did a few great things.
None will be able to do what Semi does as far as 100mtr tries but how many of those are scored? Semi also great under high ball.
90% of his tries any winger scores. But he was special.And will be a loss no matter how you try and paint it.
So do you think it's possible we win more games without him? How about just scoring more tries?
 

Stevie

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Wingers will always get chances to create excitement. Auvua did a few great things.
None will be able to do what Semi does as far as 100mtr tries but how many of those are scored? Semi also great under high ball.
90% of his tries any winger scores. But he was special.And will be a loss no matter how you try and paint it.

You are dead set kidding if you think “90% of his tries most wingers scored”!!

That was the exact think I thought watching the highlights “f**k me no one else does that”.

The length of the field tries after catching the ball on the goal line, catching facing the other tryline spin and get the ball down carrying 3 defenders, flick passes to his inside man.
Hahaha. You are off your head if you genuinely think that.
 

hineyrulz

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We might score less tries without Semi but we will let in less. As good as he was his defence left a lot to be desired at times.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Third most errors in the NRL too. Let's look at the positives around him leaving. We're also not using the cap space we would've had to devote to him.
 

Obscene Assassin

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Third most errors in the NRL too. Let's look at the positives around him leaving. We're also not using the cap space we would've had to devote to him.

3rd most errors but you can also factor in how many times a player touches the ball. Semi seemed to touch the ball a lot more than other wingers but more than likely not as much as your spine players. So percentage wise he could've been costing us a lot more than it seems.

Also with Semi leaving it means we have to change our attacking structures so we're not having to give the ball out to the left edge. We may score more tries through the middle third of the field which makes it easier for our goal-kickers. And it makes our attack incredibly hard to predict with the way we play our halves and having 2 very good centres we don't have to have a set play where we involve our winger, we didn't have to before but with how good Semi was at running the ball why wouldn't you?
 

Poupou Escobar

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That's right. With such a good outside back you need to use him, which means you use other parts of your attack less. Anyway, I'm sure we'll run a few plays just to get Hayne more involved as well.
 

84 Baby

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Hopefully between Hayne, Gunco returning quickly to the form he had pre-injury and Bevo hopefully improving we can more than cover Semi. Semi's linebreaking (which with Semi generally meant a try) particularly from own half is what we'll really miss. That said there are only a small handful of wingers who can also do that. The test will be on BA to instill a different attacking plan from one we've used for number of years
 

Chipmunk

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The biggest thing we will miss from Semi is bringing the ball back from a kick return or the play after, particularly if French finds himself back on the wing.
 

84 Baby

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The biggest thing we will miss from Semi is bringing the ball back from a kick return or the play after, particularly if French finds himself back on the wing.
Yeah but barring Semi breaking line his average kick returns weren't significantly better in quality than what Auvaa, Gunco or perhaps Hayne can do
 

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