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TheRam

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Good summary Ram but the usual suspects will disagree for the sake of it. We think very much alike and I've already stated those 2 players are the ones we should go after. I'd throw the bank at TPJ as he is a monster already and will only get better and is the future. Klemmer would be an ok signing but has his limitations and doubt his mind would really be in it leaving the dogs. I'd like us to approach them for Fritata-Mariner? if we have money left over from 3 new middle forwards and a decent dummy half.

Exactly, Raymond Faitala-Mariner would also be a great buy and I have mentioned here before the way to approach him and the Dogs to get him and them to break his contract early. Not rocket science, and very doable for good capable operators.

Imagine the following signings.

Junior
Lodge
TPJ
RFM
Api

What a transformation to our team. Title contenders or what?
 

TheRam

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If only we had you at the helm.

That's what I and everybody else keeps saying. I'm the Phil Gould of supporters. Just give me one year and I would fix this club for good. Just one year baby, just give me one year we will be transformed.

Powerhouse!!!
 

Gronk

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That's what I and everybody else keeps saying. I'm the Phil Gould of supporters. Just give me one year and I would fix this club for good. Just one year baby, just give me one year we will be transformed.

Powerhouse!!!

And as you are the Phil Gould of supporters, you'd do it for free !

 

TheRam

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On a serious note. How do you pay for all these top notch recruits I hear you say? Well for starters I wouldn't be re-signing anyone that is off contract for next year. Question, what player currently in our roster, would you rather have here, then any of the new recruits that I just mentioned. I say none.

Even Hayne, unless he shows some brilliant form when he comes back, I would not be fussed if we didn't re-sign him.

So therefore we would have, I think, enough in the kitty to have a decent crack at the players I have judiciously chosen.
 

I bleed blue & gold

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He's not great, but he's playing ok for the Tigers at the moment.

I think when the he left the Eels, nobody lost any sleep over it.

He actually is playing better than I ever thought he would. He was terrible for us in NYC. But, I don’t think he would make FG at any other club.

Most of the Tigers squad is pretty shit but Cleary has got them playing beyond their means, hats off to him and them.
 
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Exactly, Raymond Faitala-Mariner would also be a great buy and I have mentioned here before the way to approach him and the Dogs to get him and them to break his contract early. Not rocket science, and very doable for good capable operators.

Imagine the following signings.

Junior
Lodge
TPJ
RFM
Api

What a transformation to our team. Title contenders or what?

I ask again, why on earth would the Dogs let a bloke go who is not on big coin and recently re-signed for 3 or so years? It won't help their cap problems. They'll just let the Morris boys go, and try to move on a big $$ player. Getting rid of a bloke who is providing value would be their last option.
 

TheRam

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He actually is playing better than I ever thought he would. He was terrible for us in NYC. But, I don’t think he would make FG at any other club.

Most of the Tigers squad is pretty shit but Cleary has got them playing beyond their means, hats off to him and them.


That's why I think he is the pick of the younger coaches. He makes average rosters play well. He has had to rebuild at every club that he has gone to and done brilliantly ever time. I he ever gets the chance to stay at a club long enough when they actually have a great roster, I think he is the kind of coach that can win multiple premierships.
 

TheRam

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I ask again, why on earth would the Dogs let a bloke go who is not on big coin and recently re-signed for 3 or so years? It won't help their cap problems. They'll just let the Morris boys go, and try to move on a big $$ player. Getting rid of a bloke who is providing value would be their last option.

Didn't I already re-post my explanation on this for you? I couldn't b F'ed doing it a third time. Look up my previous posts if you are that interested, from around 3 weeks ago I think by now.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Exactly, Raymond Faitala-Mariner would also be a great buy and I have mentioned here before the way to approach him and the Dogs to get him and them to break his contract early. Not rocket science, and very doable for good capable operators.

Imagine the following signings.

Junior
Lodge
TPJ
RFM
Api

What a transformation to our team. Title contenders or what?
Until we got done for rorting the salary cap and docked all our points.
 

TheRam

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I ask again, why on earth would the Dogs let a bloke go who is not on big coin and recently re-signed for 3 or so years? It won't help their cap problems. They'll just let the Morris boys go, and try to move on a big $$ player. Getting rid of a bloke who is providing value would be their last option.


Ok Barry, found it. Below is what I have previously posted on the subject. -

Yes exactly. Perfect in fact. If for arguments sake, he is on 200k and we offer him 350-400k for example, which he is well worth it and on form is playing closer to a 500k player, then that would be very very tempting for a player like him. To increase your earnings by around 100% at this point of his career he and his manager would be mad not to seriously look at making the move.

On the other hand, the Dogs are in a very difficult position to try and match our offer. Then even if they obviously wouldn't want to let him go, if he got a bee in his bonnet about it, voila, they may have very little choice in the matter. To keep a player that is very unhappy in a team that isn't travelling to well can be an even bigger cancer.

BA can throw even more kindling onto the fire and court him with love and uber praise and respect and outline the wonderful things he could add to his game in a team with great halves and better finishers...e.t.c.

We have seen players and managers do this a million times. The difference is usually arsehole teams are the beneficiaries. It is about time we turned the tables on them while they are vulnerable I say.

Not rocket science, just good smart strong management. Stuff Peter Bullfrog Moore would be proud of.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Ok Barry, found it. Below is what I have previously posted on the subject. -

Yes exactly. Perfect in fact. If for arguments sake, he is on 200k and we offer him 350-400k for example, which he is well worth it and on form is playing closer to a 500k player, then that would be very very tempting for a player like him. To increase your earnings by around 100% at this point of his career he and his manager would be mad not to seriously look at making the move.

On the other hand, the Dogs are in a very difficult position to try and match our offer. Then even if they obviously wouldn't want to let him go, if he got a bee in his bonnet about it, voila, they may have very little choice in the matter. To keep a player that is very unhappy in a team that isn't travelling to well can be an even bigger cancer.

BA can throw even more kindling onto the fire and court him with love and uber praise and respect and outline the wonderful things he could add to his game in a team with great halves and better finishers...e.t.c.

We have seen players and managers do this a million times. The difference is usually arsehole teams are the beneficiaries. It is about time we turned the tables on them while they are vulnerable I say.

Not rocket science, just good smart strong management. Stuff Peter Bullfrog Moore would be proud of.

Ask Maloney or walker what the club can say if you ask for a pay rise!!

Additionally we can’t make an offer to him
unless the dogs say he can negotiate with other clubs. BA can’t even talk to him about leaving!!

While why wouId the dogs release him, he is under contract so no matter what happens they don’t have to release him. Contracts can’t be broken unless both party’s agree.

I don’t think it will be as simple as you have suggested.
 
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Ok Barry, found it. Below is what I have previously posted on the subject. -

Yes exactly. Perfect in fact. If for arguments sake, he is on 200k and we offer him 350-400k for example, which he is well worth it and on form is playing closer to a 500k player, then that would be very very tempting for a player like him. To increase your earnings by around 100% at this point of his career he and his manager would be mad not to seriously look at making the move.

On the other hand, the Dogs are in a very difficult position to try and match our offer. Then even if they obviously wouldn't want to let him go, if he got a bee in his bonnet about it, voila, they may have very little choice in the matter. To keep a player that is very unhappy in a team that isn't travelling to well can be an even bigger cancer.

BA can throw even more kindling onto the fire and court him with love and uber praise and respect and outline the wonderful things he could add to his game in a team with great halves and better finishers...e.t.c.

We have seen players and managers do this a million times. The difference is usually arsehole teams are the beneficiaries. It is about time we turned the tables on them while they are vulnerable I say.

Not rocket science, just good smart strong management. Stuff Peter Bullfrog Moore would be proud of.

As per the conversation a couple of weeks ago, clubs will have a lot more leverage with respect to Klemmer, Mbye, Woods, Foran et al. If I were running the Dogs, RFM would be one of the last players I'd consider letting go mid-contract.
 

Bazal

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As per the conversation a couple of weeks ago, clubs will have a lot more leverage with respect to Klemmer, Mbye, Woods, Foran et al. If I were running the Dogs, RFM would be one of the last players I'd consider letting go mid-contract.

Depending what he was on, I'd let go of RFM in a heartbeat.

Because he's a plodder.
 

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