Rumours and Stuff

[Noise]

Additionally generally only Jennings / Evans / Norman are consistently mentioned by some as players that should be let go - and 2 of these 3 are off contract next year.

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I'm pretty sure they are all contracted for next year (assuming you are talking about Michael not George)

 

[84 Baby]

Spot on. That is why I initially I said it would be a great signing if we could pull it off. But unfortunately we are dogged by a mongrel of a season AGAIN and a coach that is quickly becoming a muppet in the eyes of other players in the NRL.

Also our CEO has been copping it too, so we are in the tank right across the board...AGAIN.

I can see this shit going on for at least 2 or 3 more years with this lot. Lost all confidence now.

Yes this season has killed our chances of bringing any player here for anything like their real value. We'll have to pay overs again as we've done for years. And look at the poor squad we've built under BA. Really the projector needs to be dusted off as we need a complete cleanout. However, beyond a handful of players who are worthwhile keeping, very few could be offloaded to other clubs. As Spud Carroll says we have midgets for forwards and our playing style is boring and predictable. BA needs to be tapped on the shoulder to leave and bring in a decent coach.

Bennett now knows the Broncs don't want him so surely he'll not go around with them next year. Maybe the challenge of turning Parra around may appeal to him, it did to Gibson. If not him what about Walters? If Qld get slaughtered in SOO (wishful thinking there) he may be willing to come here. Regardless, unless we can get a coach that players generally want to play under, we'll never get a decent squad unless we consistently make the finals. And therein lies our problem. Would a decent coach come here in the first place? That is our first and only imperative atm.

"Aaron Woods reportedly moving to Sharks" = we are shit and BA is shitter and I'll even throw Gurr in there as being shit too.
Ladies and gentlemen, leave your logic at the door

 

[84 Baby]

Spot on. That is why I initially I said it would be a great signing if we could pull it off. But unfortunately we are dogged by a mongrel of a season AGAIN and a coach that is quickly becoming a muppet in the eyes of other players in the NRL.

Also our CEO has been copping it too, so we are in the tank right across the board...AGAIN.

I can see this shit going on for at least 2 or 3 more years with this lot. Lost all confidence now.

Yes this season has killed our chances of bringing any player here for anything like their real value. We'll have to pay overs again as we've done for years. And look at the poor squad we've built under BA. Really the projector needs to be dusted off as we need a complete cleanout. However, beyond a handful of players who are worthwhile keeping, very few could be offloaded to other clubs. As Spud Carroll says we have midgets for forwards and our playing style is boring and predictable. BA needs to be tapped on the shoulder to leave and bring in a decent coach.

Bennett now knows the Broncs don't want him so surely he'll not go around with them next year. Maybe the challenge of turning Parra around may appeal to him, it did to Gibson. If not him what about Walters? If Qld get slaughtered in SOO (wishful thinking there) he may be willing to come here. Regardless, unless we can get a coach that players generally want to play under, we'll never get a decent squad unless we consistently make the finals. And therein lies our problem. Would a decent coach come here in the first place? That is our first and only imperative atm.

"Aaron Woods reportedly moving to Sharks" = we are shit and BA is shitter and I'll even throw Gurr in there as being shit too.
Ladies and gentlemen, leave your logic at the door

 

[JokerEel]

Yes this season has killed our chances of bringing any player here for anything like their real value. We'll have to pay overs again as we've done for years. And look at the poor squad we've built under BA. Really the projector needs to be dusted off as we need a complete cleanout. However, beyond a handful of players who are worthwhile keeping, very few could be offloaded to other clubs. As Spud Carroll says we have midgets for forwards and our playing style is boring and predictable. BA needs to be tapped on the shoulder to leave and bring in a decent coach.

Bennett now knows the Broncs don't want him so surely he'll not go around with them next year. Maybe the challenge of turning Parra around may appeal to him, it did to Gibson. If not him what about Walters? If Qld get slaughtered in SOO (wishful thinking there) he may be willing to come here. Regardless, unless we can get a coach that players generally want to play under, we'll never get a decent squad unless we consistently make the finals. And therein lies our problem. Would a decent coach come here in the first place? That is our first and only imperative atm.

You did notice the state he left the Broncos/Dragons/knights in when he left them??

 

[JokerEel]

Yes this season has killed our chances of bringing any player here for anything like their real value. We'll have to pay overs again as we've done for years. And look at the poor squad we've built under BA. Really the projector needs to be dusted off as we need a complete cleanout. However, beyond a handful of players who are worthwhile keeping, very few could be offloaded to other clubs. As Spud Carroll says we have midgets for forwards and our playing style is boring and predictable. BA needs to be tapped on the shoulder to leave and bring in a decent coach.

Bennett now knows the Broncs don't want him so surely he'll not go around with them next year. Maybe the challenge of turning Parra around may appeal to him, it did to Gibson. If not him what about Walters? If Qld get slaughtered in SOO (wishful thinking there) he may be willing to come here. Regardless, unless we can get a coach that players generally want to play under, we'll never get a decent squad unless we consistently make the finals. And therein lies our problem. Would a decent coach come here in the first place? That is our first and only imperative atm.

You did notice the state he left the Broncos/Dragons/knights in when he left them??

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I'm pretty sure they are all contracted for next year (assuming you are talking about Michael not George)

Yes they are - my point was we only have one more year with Norman / Jennings. Thus apart from the amount of players we currently have of contract, we can also make some substantial more changes next year for 2020.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

You liked your own post that much you had to post it twice.

Phone or site seems to be playing up. Sorry

 

[oldmancraigy]

Not quite. In this circumstance it's most likely that Dogs initiated the release (disclaimer - has any of this actually happened yet?) and Woods is within his right to say "you signed, you pay" so onus is on Dogs to appease Woods. Someone would put feelers out if any club is willing to take the contract of Woods, then the Dogs have to check with Woods if that club is agreeable with him. So Woods has 100% choice from those available clubs (or 0% if Dogs can't come to an adequate deal), and there could be a plethora of reasons of choosing Sharks over anyone else. Either way Woods is still getting paid what he signed for, so it's up to Dogs to negotiate with Sharks on how much each club pays to that amount. Now Ram may be correct because of course the Sharks would try to lowball the Dogs, but at what stage do Dogs back out because moving him on hurts them more than keeping him? Especially when they have other options that they could move on e.g. Klemmer, that could move it more from a buyers markets/firesale.

The only way I could see Sharks paying half, besides Dogs losing their minds, is if Dogs are paying fully this and next, effectively writing off both seasons. Not so much an issue this season but I'd have to look into when their board are up for reelection to see if they'd willingly play for $800/$900/$whatever under the cap and likely having another bad season

I wasn't pretending to know what is going on. I was just putting as scenario forward to indicate how the thing worked!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Like Gould said on tele about this whole saga, it's a process and it will come down to which club will pay the most. But he also said, don't kid yourself, the clubs will be low balling the dogs for sure. There is no way that any club will be paying them anywhere near the original contract value.

That's what happens in situations like this, and this is no different.

The clubs might be lowballing the Dogs but they are still competing with each other to pay the most for Woods. That will drive up the amount they pay and reduce the amount the Dogs need to top up.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes it's a fire sale and especially so if the Sharks can take him this year. It makes it even more desirable.

The sticking point though could be that a better offer may come in that the Dogs would prefer. But then again if it were say from the Eels, and Sharon balked at joining such a shit club, then it could torpedo the whole deal for both the Eels and the Sharks, unless the Dogs were/are willing to take the lower of the two offers.

And therein lies our problem. Under this shit coach and his shit recruitment, who the "F" would want to come to our club unless on massive overs?

Good one BA.

Woods has already proven he is all about the money. Don't kid yourself that he gives a f**k about going to a 'good club'.

 

[hineyrulz]

Woods has already proven he is all about the money. Don't kid yourself that he gives a f**k about going to a 'good club'.

He was offered the same to play at the Tigers, he only went to the Dogs because his best bud Klemmer is there.

 

[Bazal]

You did notice the state he left the Broncos/Dragons/knights in when he left them??

Dragons not so bad, but yeah ask a Knights fan what they think of Bennett. And be prepared for a few hours of swearing...

Wouldn't want Bennett anywhere near the joint in terms of head coaching gigs these days.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I applaud your loyalty, but I am sorry, I go by results and thus far the guy has run this clubs performances into the ground with his recruitment strategy.

The guy showed great strength during our salary cap drama period for sure. But really some of his decisions in recruitment over the 5 years has been outrageously bad.

What decisions? Buying players we could afford instead of spending $1M on an Origin level front rower and weakening the rest of the team? The Bulldogs spent all their money on front rowers and look at them now. You need a balanced squad. We proved that last year. This year there are other problems but the strength of the squad isn't one of them. That's why everyone who has a clue is surprised by our results.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well we're probably paying Evans that to play in reserves. Would swap Sharon for him in a heartbeat.

Why would Evans be so expensive, especially if he's as shit as you say?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He was offered the same to play at the Tigers, he only went to the Dogs because his best bud Klemmer is there.

We don't know how much he was offered by either club, but the fact is he left the Tigers and they improved while the Dogs went backwards. And Woods would still have plenty of 'best buds' at the Tigers.

 

[hineyrulz]

We don't know how much he was offered by either club, but the fact is he left the Tigers and they improved while the Dogs went backwards. And Woods would still have plenty of 'best buds' at the Tigers.

If anyone has been a bust at the Dogs it’s been Foran.

Woods has been average for his pay check but still solid Foran has been one of the worst starting halves in the comp.

 

[yy_cheng]

Did Boyd goto fb if we get Bennett?

 

[Gronk]

Did Boyd goto fb if we get Bennett?

Will Darius retire when pop retires ?

 

[TheRam]

You liked your own post that much you had to post it twice.

Woods has already proven he is all about the money. Don't kid yourself that he gives a f**k about going to a 'good club'.

You know that he is guaranteed his Dogs money no matter what the club he goes to end up paying him, so stop obfuscating Pou you wanker.

 

[TheRam]

What decisions? Buying players we could afford instead of spending $1M on an Origin level front rower and weakening the rest of the team? The Bulldogs spent all their money on front rowers and look at them now. You need a balanced squad. We proved that last year. This year there are other problems but the strength of the squad isn't one of them. That's why everyone who has a clue is surprised by our results.

More obfuscating as Pou steps into a rake again.