Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

You liked your own post that much you had to post it twice.

Yoy said this before as well.

You know that he is guaranteed his Dogs money no matter what the club he goes to end up paying him, so stop obfuscating Pou you wanker.

If he doesn’t accept a good enough offer the Dogs can refuse to release him. Remember their goal is to free up enough cap space (however much that is), not to get rid of him at any cost.

 

[hindy111]

Woods has 3 yrs left... Using 800k a a likely figure.

Yr 1 - 250k - costs 550k
Yr 2 - 150k - costs 650k
Yr 3 - 50k - costs 750k


My guess would be figures like this. The Dogs happy to chcuk in for 2019 a lareg amount as years ruined. By 2020/2010 I doubt they want to be paying put a lot at all.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

OR

Do they have f**k all cap space for 2019 but heaps for 2021 (because they only have a couple of merkins on contract) so they agree to pay more in later years for the cap relief they need next year?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

OR

Do they have f**k all cap space for 2019 but heaps for 2021 (because they only have a couple of merkins on contract) so they agree to pay more in later years for the cap relief they need next year?

Isn't that exactly what Hindy111 i saying?

 

[TheRam]

Yoy said this before as well.

If he doesn’t accept a good enough offer the Dogs can refuse to release him. Remember their goal is to free up enough cap space (however much that is), not to get rid of him at any cost.

Yeah, Obvs.

 

[TheRam]

Isn't that exactly what Hindy111 i saying?

No, Hindy is saying the exact opposite. Which means we have know freakin idea which way this will go other then the Sharks are going to get a damn fine player, at a very decent price, while we get flogged for the next couple of years paying similar money for average players.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Isn't that exactly what Hindy111 i saying?

No he’s saying the Dogs would prefer to pay him more next year and less in later years.

 

[El Diablo]

we have know freakin idea which way this will go other then the Sharks

try English you moaning dumbarse

 

[Glenneel]

FFS, we have:
Pritchard
King
Gennings
Davis
Edwards
Peni
Gower
KA
NK
T. rex
Hayne
Vave
Matagi
Scott

All off contract, so what makes you think we can’t made some substantial changes to the roster?

Yeah fair enough our form has been poor but the side has plenty of genuine first graders.

Additionally generally only Jennings / Evans / Norman are consistently mentioned by some as players that should be let go - and 2 of these 3 are off contract next year.

Won’t be hard to make changes to the roster!!

Also we have a core of rookies starting to get close to NRL debuts ( NK / Mahoney already with Stone / Salmon getting close)

You, and a few others who like your post, completely miss the point. No one wants to come here unless we PAY OVERS and no one of QUALITY will even touch this place. Unless we get a decent coach people want to play under we'll never attract the right talent to win a premiership. Been the same story for 32 years now and likely to last another 32.

BA has proved he is not the right coach so needs to go. The squad he has assembled has proved to be poor and his tactics even poorer. A poor relationship has developed between himself and Norman and Norman's performance is reflected in that. That is just some of the reasons why BA has to go.

 

[Glenneel]

"Aaron Woods reportedly moving to Sharks" = we are shit and BA is shitter and I'll even throw Gurr in there as being shit too.
Ladies and gentlemen, leave your logic at the door

Another one who likes his post so much he has to post it twice.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You, and a few others who like your post, completely miss the point. No one wants to come here unless we PAY OVERS and no one of QUALITY will even touch this place. Unless we get a decent coach people want to play under we'll never attract the right talent to win a premiership. Been the same story for 32 years now and likely to last another 32.

BA has proved he is not the right coach so needs to go. The squad he has assembled has proved to be poor and his tactics even poorer. A poor relationship has developed between himself and Norman and Norman's performance is reflected in that. That is just some of the reasons why BA has to go.

Why would a decent coach want to come here?

 

[Glenneel]

You did notice the state he left the Broncos/Dragons/knights in when he left them??

Except for the Knights, who Tinkler f**ked, none won the spoon when he left, but it looks like we'll win it this year. I'd like us to consistently play in the finals, and BA has proved he can't do that, one finals appearance in 5 years for zero wins. At least Bennett gets his teams into the finals most years.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

You, and a few others who like your post, completely miss the point. No one wants to come here unless we PAY OVERS and no one of QUALITY will even touch this place. Unless we get a decent coach people want to play under we'll never attract the right talent to win a premiership. Been the same story for 32 years now and likely to last another 32.

BA has proved he is not the right coach so needs to go. The squad he has assembled has proved to be poor and his tactics even poorer. A poor relationship has developed between himself and Norman and Norman's performance is reflected in that. That is just some of the reasons why BA has to go.

Really so you know that we have to pay overs?

Wouldn’t the fact that we can actually purchase players show BA doesn’t pay overs for players why wouId that suddenly change.

Other bottom sides like manly / raiders and the dogs all have cap problems and poor form. Yet we don’t have cap problems.

Our recruitment did ok last year.

How about we just wait and see what recruitment BA does before we judge him on playing overs.

 

[Glenneel]

Why would Evans be so expensive, especially if he's as shit as you say?

Please Pou I don't have to say a thing but start using your brain by looking at the facts.

Facts are he is playing RESERVE GRADE in a team running DEAD LAST with a BIG INJURY TOLL. I don't have to say he is shit, the coach who bought him here to much fanfare, is saying that loud and clear!!! And who knows what we are paying him. Based on our history he is being paid twice what he was ever worth.

 

[Glenneel]

Why would a decent coach want to come here?

Exactly what I said in a previous post but maybe, and a big maybe, for the challenge. Bennett may like the challenge, after all he did take Dragons and Knights on when they were mediocre teams. But whether he would take a basket case on is the $2m question.

 

[Glenneel]

Really so you know that we have to pay overs?

Wouldn’t the fact that we can actually purchase players show BA doesn’t pay overs for players why wouId that suddenly change.

Our recruitment did ok last year.

How about we just wait and see what recruitment BA does before we judge him on playing overs.

Another one who won't let the facts get in the way of his scenario. Lets look at the facts we do know from BA's recruitment.

Watmough, we offer a broken down over 30s player, wait for it, $700k for 4 years.

Beau Scott, we offer a over 30s player who wants to be close to Westmead Hospital, wait for it, $600k for 3 years.

Foran, we offer him $1.4m with, wait for it, a $1m get out of jail free card. Luckily the NRL doesn't accept it. We get about 2-3 decent games out of him and dodged a huge bullet when he left. But wait, it gets better, Maloney was available for half the price and the better player BUT BA doesn't want him, he wants Foran.

These are the facts we do know so who says we don't continue to offer overs.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Another one who won't let the facts get in the way of his scenario. Lets look at the facts we do know from BA's recruitment.

Watmough, we offer a broken down over 30s player, wait for it, $700k for 4 years.

Beau Scott, we offer a over 30s player who wants to be close to Westmead Hospital, wait for it, $600k for 3 years.

Foran, we offer him $1.4m with, wait for it, a $1m get out of jail free card. Luckily the NRL doesn't accept it. We get about 2-3 decent games out of him and dodged a huge bullet when he left. But wait, it gets better, Maloney was available for half the price and the better player BUT BA doesn't want him, he wants Foran.

These are the facts we do know so who says we don't continue to offer overs.

The only facts we know are that we signed Watmough, Scott and Foran, and we let go of Watmough and Foran early. Then finished top four.

What we don't know is how much we paid for any of them. We also know that the only year out of five that we weren't competitive was the current year, which is only half over.

You're confusing facts with rumours and then you have the nerve of accusing others of ignoring the facts. You are believing what you hear and read because you don't understand what is going on this year.

 

[hineyrulz]

I have heard that DA was very confident of getting Maloney but BA put his foot down and insisted on Foran.

Who knows it could be all BS and no one knew what would happen to Foran.

Sharks got lucky and well we are Parra and luck never shines on us.

 

[JokerEel]

Except for the Knights, who Tinkler f**ked, none won the spoon when he left, but it looks like we'll win it this year. I'd like us to consistently play in the finals, and BA has proved he can't do that, one finals appearance in 5 years for zero wins. At least Bennett gets his teams into the finals most years.

Did Bennet Build the Dragons / Knights or Broncos teams? He was gifted them Won a competition at the Dragons with a team Brown Built Had a shit team at the Knights and left them a shit team also left the Dragons a shittier team...

Made the GF in his first year back at the Broncos with a team someone else built..
Got rid of his only halfback who is now a SOO player at the Dragons..

Bought Bird from the Sharks turned him Fat...

There is a reason the Bronocos are Buying a new coach................

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Another one who won't let the facts get in the way of his scenario. Lets look at the facts we do know from BA's recruitment.

Watmough, we offer a broken down over 30s player, wait for it, $700k for 4 years.

Beau Scott, we offer a over 30s player who wants to be close to Westmead Hospital, wait for it, $600k for 3 years.

Foran, we offer him $1.4m with, wait for it, a $1m get out of jail free card. Luckily the NRL doesn't accept it. We get about 2-3 decent games out of him and dodged a huge bullet when he left. But wait, it gets better, Maloney was available for half the price and the better player BUT BA doesn't want him, he wants Foran.

These are the facts we do know so who says we don't continue to offer overs.

Maybe you shouldnt let facts get in the way!!

3 players and you claim BA over pays!! FFS!!

Watmough is what we needed at the time - look at the pack BA inherited!!

Scott was also what we needed (at the time we only had 3 very inexperienced edge forwards in the side Edwards, Manu and Tepai - one coming back from an ACL and the other a teenager) and additionally the rumours are he accepted less from us then the higher amounts from the Tigers and knights - so that isn’t paying overs!! It’s meeting the market!

Foran was a star half when we signed him (and it wasn’t $1.4m), look at how much the dragons paid for Hunt, Dogs for Foran, Manly for Evans, Titans for Taylor, Cowboys for Thurston, or what Cleary is going to get etc etc. It was the market rate for a half!! Not overs!! And Foran was f**ken brilliant before his break down!! We didn’t need Maloney at the time as he missed to many bloody tackles !!

We let Paulo go as BA refused to pay overs, we couldn’t get peats back as he refused to pay offers. He couldn’t get Bird last year as we refused to offer what the broncos and knights did!! We didn’t sign rein last year as he wanted to much, we wouIdnt meet what Lichaa wanted, we wouldn’t pay the stupid money Vaughan was offered by the dragons!! We refused to pay Hayne what he wanted!! We wouldn’t meet Dargans contract expectation. We didn’t meet what Keppie was offered by the eagles!! That is just a few examples of BA refusing to pay overs!!