Rumours and Stuff

[El Diablo]

How can the coach make changes when the system does not allow him too ? He has a top 30 that were super competitive last year save Semi.

They are not playing to their potential and as well paid professionals the buck stops with them.

Last night they start looking like comp leaders and then the wheels fall off.

The coach has not lost the dressing room. It’s the players who need to take a good look at themselves. Problem with the system is that BA cant just put 10 in reggies and debut some kids. The NRL wont let him.

you BA groupies are a weird bunch with nfi

 

[Poupou Escobar]

How did ypu miss Jennings ffs

He is one of the merkins I mention who turn 30 this year.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Because he don't suit his argument.

See above.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The squad we had when we come last where absalute garbage. Rickys squad and SK squad had nothing.Certainly where not top 8 predictions.
Sk managed 6 wins in 2012 while Ricky had 5. At best we may get 6 wins this season.


Sure some of the floggimgs where worse. But I can see a few coming before season ends. This squad has talent and very good players all over the team. Norman,Moses,Brown all would of been origin hopes before season kicked off. Gutherson, Tepai not completelt out of it and add MJ and Hayne.Its a very good side. Sick of hearing the same of unlucky bullshit.

BA with nothing to play for isn't even going down the lets try some new things to build for 2019. A new style. This is what we should be using the last 7 games for. New attacking plays and having some fun out there. Unsure why we sticking to the same game plan that hasnt worked in games that mean nothing now.
For me I question if its cause he is out of ideas and has no other styles.

If he thinks he is playing to the strengths of the team (and you'd hope he thinks that) then doing something different would be not playing to the strengths of the team.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

if the players aren't following the game plan doesn't that come back to the coach as well?

It does, but merkins are criticising the game plan like they know what's wrong with the side. Just like they criticise recruiting/retention despite the squad being among the premiership favourites at the start of the year. Just because we're losing doesn't mean every f**king mouth breather with a pet theory is suddenly correct.

The key fact here is that many of our players are going worse than last year. That may indeed be on the coach but it's nothing to do with his game plans or recruitment. There are obviously big problems within the club, and the coach is responsible for fixing them, but that doesn't mean he is the cause of those problems. It also doesn't mean fixing them is something that can be done before the start of next season. There are plenty of reasons why something that wasn't a problem until this year can't be fixed until next year. Contract law and the NRL salary cap are serious constraints to quick change.

 

[Gary Gutful]

He is one of the merkins I mention who turn 30 this year.

See above.

What a couple of deadshits.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

What a couple of deadshits.

You've quoted the same bloke twice.

 

[Gary Gutful]

You've quoted the same bloke twice.

Shut up you two!

 

[Happy MEel]

It does, but merkins are criticising the game plan like they know what's wrong with the side. Just like they criticise recruiting/retention despite the squad being among the premiership favourites at the start of the year. Just because we're losing doesn't mean every f**king mouth breather with a pet theory is suddenly correct.

The key fact here is that many of our players are going worse than last year. That may indeed be on the coach but it's nothing to do with his game plans or recruitment. There are obviously big problems within the club, and the coach is responsible for fixing them, but that doesn't mean he is the cause of those problems. It also doesn't mean fixing them is something that can be done before the start of next season. There are plenty of reasons why something that wasn't a problem until this year can't be fixed until next year. Contract law and the NRL salary cap are serious constraints to quick change.

That’s true but we do have quite a few merkins off contract at the end of next year. Telling them they are a very high chance of being backups next year is a pretty strong incentive for them to look for other opportunities ASAP. Their value at the end of their current contract is going to plummet otherwise, and they’ll be far worse off than cutting their losses with us this year and earning first grade money over the life of their next contract.

The players that come to mind are French, Taka, Smith, Tep (Hes a solid first grader but I think he’d be on more than he’s worth) Jennings and Evans.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So if Parra played perfect its only fair to say what if Knights played perfect. Vaves try was embarrasing.Moses was lucky .
Knights still made 9 errors and missing Ponga. Even with him they are one of worse teams in comp. Look at the points differential. We where not playing the storm.
Our squad is as good as Souths or Warriors or Dragons.

Difference for me is this -
Mgregor had a style in mind. Tough and grind. Built a squad to suit it.
Seebold inherited a team. He moulded a style to suit his players strengths.

We have guys like Bevan, Hayne,Mj,Moses,Norman. Yet BA wants to grind. This isn't the style of players if want to grind.
If wanted to grind you buy big strong guys and halves like Pearces style. Not Moses.
You get a hooker like Lichaa etc
With small mobile forwards you dont f**king grind. You play fast expansive footy ffs with lots of offloads

We have attacked the edges ever since Arthur got here. It's not grinding footy. The difference is this year teams have figured out how to pressure us out wide and we don't have the cattle for going back through the middle. So we turn it inside to Brown or give it to Alvaro/Mannah/etc when it's not on out wide, but we do it because we have to, not because that's what we want to do. Multiple points of attack cost a lot of cap space, but we have rectified it by bringing Paulo back next year.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You have to earn the right to throw the ball around. You need to complete your sets and your forwards need to get quick play the balls.

You can’t throw the ball around whilst you are struggling to get the ball out of your own end.

Throwing the ball around also means more errors, which has been our biggest problem this year.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Your right.
Give BA a 5 yr extension

No your write!
Sack BA, replace him with whoever’s available and we will win the comp next year. ffs

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Like Gould said we sre a team of guys chasing money.
You need juniors with passion.

Yeah we should throw money at some passionate juniors.

 

[Bazal]

Throwing the ball around also means more errors, which has been our biggest problem this year.

This is the thing stupid deathriding merkins with the IQ of a gnat refuse to understand. Well, one of two.

Firstly, we are playing a style of footy that is born of our confidence and form level, not vice-versa. The rare times we have had some momentum and some belief, we have played some good footy.

Secondly, EVERY F**KING SIDE IN THE NRL DOES FIVE HITUPS AND A BOMB FFS!

 

[Eelementary]

Out of curiosity - @Bazal, @Gary Gutful, @Poupou Escobar, @Gronk, @strider, @Suitman - I think you blokes are very level-headed, and I honestly admire that.

What are your thoughts on Moses?

I know he must be down on confidence, but is he performing his role, do you think?

I think he's a talent, no doubt about it - but he doesn't seem to be creating chances, and seems more concerned about those no-look passes to an inside runner, rather than trying to create chances.

But I wonder whether I am being way too harsh on the kid.

 

[El Diablo]

Bazal stil sucking BA's dick lol

we could never win another game and this f**kwit would give him a contract extension

 

[Bazal]

Out of curiosity - @Bazal, @Gary Gutful, @Poupou Escobar, @Gronk, @strider, @Suitman - I think you blokes are very level-headed, and I honestly admire that.

What are your thoughts on Moses?

I know he must be down on confidence, but is he performing his role, do you think?

I think he's a talent, no doubt about it - but he doesn't seem to be creating chances, and seems more concerned about those no-look passes to an inside runner, rather than trying to create chances.

But I wonder whether I am being way too harsh on the kid.

Yes, he is performing his role, IMO. He isn't as good as last season, but apart from Alvaro and Brown you'd struggle to find anyone who is

He is our main kicker, and he is doing reasonably well in that regard. His defence has improved markedly since he was a Tiger and even since last year.

I think the major thing with any half in a poorly performing side, is how much of the perceived impotence is the half, and how much is the players around him? He could be killing it, but if the guys around him stink it won't matter in the slightest. Our right edge has been the worst part of our game this year. Mennings was a weapon last year, he's been woeful this year to the point of literally dropping what, at least seven-ish tries? IIRC a lot of those were off Moses. French, when on that edge, has been in shocking form too. He's run into touch on two (maybe) three occasions I can think of when we had a bit of a sniff at something, for example. So what good does it do for Moses to create something when the strike players are stuffing it up anyway?

Norman has been overplaying his hand, to our detriment, but I don't believe Moses has, and I think that makes him less noticeable. Norman is either trying for a play that comes off (that slick but low percentage kick to a flying French vs Souths) or fails miserably...but people look at that and go "hey he's trying hard". And it's true, he is, and I think talk about shopping around is premature unless his off-filed attitude is a problem. But I think Moses is more doing the basics and trying to stay in the game, and I think that makes him look less desperate....I just think being less desperate is kind of a good thing when desperation is part of our problem.

There is no doubt he is worse than last year, but I think it's a symptom of the team's poor performance rather than a cause.

 

[Bazal]

Bazal stil sucking BA's dick lol

we could never win another game and this f**kwit would give him a contract extension

f**k up, Felicia.

What you actually understand about my views could fit on a postage stamp, with room for all of Chiefy's correct scoops.

 

[Gronk]

Out of curiosity - @Bazal, @Gary Gutful, @Poupou Escobar, @Gronk, @strider, @Suitman - I think you blokes are very level-headed, and I honestly admire that.

What are your thoughts on Moses?

I know he must be down on confidence, but is he performing his role, do you think?

I think he's a talent, no doubt about it - but he doesn't seem to be creating chances, and seems more concerned about those no-look passes to an inside runner, rather than trying to create chances.

But I wonder whether I am being way too harsh on the kid.

I was watching Munster during origin and I reckon he is the benchmark 6. He is aggressive at the line and aims for line breaks and half chances. He does not get involved in team management and is happy to allow the 7 and 9 run the show.

I reckon that Norman cramps Moses’s style and does not trust him to steer the team around.

Moses is as good as Cleary or if not as good, certainly up there. I don’t buy the Tigers BS that he is a destabilising influence or anything like that.

A good hooker will also give Moses more room by enhancing our line speed in attack.

 

[El Diablo]

f**k up, Felicia.

What you actually understand about my views could fit on a postage stamp, with room for all of Chiefy's correct scoops.

lol

you are always one of the first to rush to BA's defence

without fail