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Poupou Escobar

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As is so often the case, posters here like you, Pou and Gutful, have missed the point due to bias but always preach on about how they are level headed and reasonable and that the critics on here are the bias, agenda driven muppets.

The point isn't Willie giving himself a massive rap as he is known to do, but how Des rated Tolman the best prop in the game over the Burgii boys and the like. Hell he isn't even the best prop in his team.
Hasler won two premierships as a player and two as a coach. I'm sure he knew what was important as a player. Obviously as fans we prefer to watch players like Mason than players like Tolman, but the game goes for 80 minutes and requires sustained effort from a subset of players for each of those minutes. Tolman obviously provides more across the 80 minutes than does someone like Mason, however Mason provides his own important contribution.

Basically, they are two different types of player, and both have their place in the team. And Mason is such a f**king dumb merkin he likely didn't even understand what Hasler was saying to him.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Again, way to miss the point. No one is saying that he doesn't know what is required to build an NRL team.

But as Willie and others have suggested, he went to far into valuing stats as apposed to having a feel for the players and game overall. There is a reason no other team is looking at him to coach that goes beyond salary cap issues. Salary cap issues are easily controlled. You make sure you have a Football Manager in charge of all that including recruitment and salary control.
Except Hasler does have a feel for the game. He didn't just sign Tolman. He also signed George Rose and Tony Williams (twice), kept re-signing Sam Kasiano, brought Klemmer into first grade, and as you've shared, he approached Willie Mason to play for him.

But he also knew that players like Tolman, Graham and Aaron Woods are needed to do the dirty work. What coaches and players refer to as the one percenters that dopey fans like yourself don't notice.
 

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Parramatta eye Holbrook

Parramatta Eels have been linked with a potential move for Justin Holbrook, but St Helens chief executive Mike Rush says their head coach is going nowhere, report League Weekly.

The Eels are currently bottom of the NRL ladder and Brad Arthur is under pressure to turn things around. League Weekly say there is interest from the Eels in Holbrook, but Rush is adamant that he is going nowhere. He told League Weekly: “There’s been no approach at all and Justin is under contract for next season with no buy out [clause] at all, he is full aware of his commitment to the club.”

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/pos...arramatta-eye-holbrook-aiton-return-doubtful/
 

Gary Gutful

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As is so often the case, posters here like you, Pou and Gutful, have missed the point due to bias but always preach on about how they are level headed and reasonable and that the critics on here are the bias, agenda driven muppets.

The point isn't Willie giving himself a massive rap as he is known to do, but how Des rated Tolman the best prop in the game over the Burgii boys and the like. Hell he isn't even the best prop in his team.
I think you missed my point Ram which is ironic.
 

Gary Gutful

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Again, way to miss the point. No one is saying that he doesn't know what is required to build an NRL team.

But as Willie and others have suggested, he went to far into valuing stats as apposed to having a feel for the players and game overall. There is a reason no other team is looking at him to coach that goes beyond salary cap issues. Salary cap issues are easily controlled. You make sure you have a Football Manager in charge of all that including recruitment and salary control.
How have you managed to link his preference for high workrate (lower cost) players to any salary cap issues? If he went for the flashier (more expensive) players you are saying he should have favoured he'd have left his club in even deeper salary cap shit.

Use your noggin Ram.
 

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Dumb question, but whereabouts in the article Ram posted is Hasler quoted as saying Tolman is the best prop in the game?

I read Willie's opinion that stats are crap and his slur on Des by accusing Des of thinking Tolman is the best prop in the game. But I didn't see any evidence to suggest anything other than that was Willie's opinion.
Most likely (given the tenor of the article) an opinion based on bitterness that Des wanted him to get his work rate up, and find his gut more often when tackled.
Let's be fair, Mason was quite limited in his effectiveness during his latter years. Seems he didn't want anyone telling him what to do?
Nailed it OMC.
 

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